Starting WoW for the first time

Apocalypse

Hi Celadore

We have a guild on the Frostwhipser server called Paddy Irishman if your interested in playing with your fellow paddy's

Lone Stone

Ah god i made a tone of friends in vanila wow, all that cross realm stuff really just ruined any community that was around. bloodhoof.

ShadowHearth

Lone Stone wrote: »

Ah god i made a tone of friends in vanila wow, all that cross realm stuff really just ruined any community that was around. bloodhoof.

Amen.

Last time I played, people did not even bothered saying hello in dungeon group. If you wipe, then there is a huge cluster **** of noobies accusations. If wipe again - whole group falls apart...

Remember when you would see a person from particular guild on the server and you would knew that person will have awesome epic gear. That's the times, when epic actually were epic... Took me a month to get mats for lionheart helmet, then begging some dude to craft it for half price as that was all I had on me. He did crafted it for half price, but asked not to tell anyone as he did not wanted to get in trouble for undercutting on server... Yeah, back then a server was a lot more then just a hub for dungeon queues...

This thread should be renamed to wow nostalgia thread lol .

nesf

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Last time I played, people did not even bothered saying hello in dungeon group. If you wipe, then there is a huge cluster **** of noobies accusations. If wipe again - whole group falls apart...

These children, imagine them running Heroic Shattered Halls or similar.

ShaShaBear

Seriously, WoW?

Do you have a partner?
A diet?
Predictable toilet habits?
A fondness for sleep?

Not any more.

I am a lady who is responsible for sucking in no fewer than three of my ex's into WoW's cavernous mouth. I don't play nearly as often any more due to college commitments, but when I play - I play. Sure, there are things that changed I am not happy about (seriously miss the talent tree) and there are things that overjoy me to no end (making all of the spiders in that cave in the NE starting zone neutral instead of aggressive) but if you have never, ever played it before these things won't matter to you. The game will be what it is to a new player, not what it is no longer

Seriously though OP, dump your partner and buy some adult nappies/a share in Coca Cola.

TheDoc

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I can bet a lot of original players don't really like wow as they did before, but a new comers might really enjoy it as it is now, as they won't have the baggage we have.
By the way, I am one of those assholes who hates flying mounts and dungeon finder systems. Those 2 things completely destroyed the immersion of huge awesome world wow was. I bet most of people who grind dungeons don't even know where they are on map and whats the back story to a them.

I'm playing since friends and family Alpha, to my knowledge, I was one of the first people to get to play the game, and I've been playing it ever since.

There is a serious case of looking back nostalgicly when it comes to WoW. Alot of people think back to the good old days, and how it was better.

I think that's bull**** to be honest. The only rubbish feature that came into WoW was LFR and instanced PVP. Everything else has been a major success in my eyes.

Dungeon Finder is a godsend. I remember sitting in cities barking and shouting for groups for dungeons, then having to go there, do endless pvp to just get to the summoning stone, and probably waste an hour / 90 minutes before I could start the dungeon. Being able to queue up, get in and clear a dungeon is wonderful.

I've always been part of a guild, so making friends in a dungeon was never a must or a requirement. A Hi and a Bye with DPS in between was all that was required. I do like how they are coming back though in WOD as a gearing step. I thought they dropped the ball in MOP with dungeons, and pushing people into LFR as a gearing step. Looking for raid is a horrible implementation, that a player should NOT have to go anywhere NEAR if they can actually raid properly.

Thankfully that is being addressed in WOD where more time will be spent running Heroic dungeons as a gearing platform, to then be able to enter flex level raiding.

i'm HAVING to run LFR at the moment on some alts for gearing, and it's heartbreaking. I normally raid Flex because its times that suits me, but having to go into a mode where it's for people to just "see" endgame content, with no raiding expeirence or skill is a major drain of the game.

Grimebox

nesf wrote: »

Nah, single player Farmville type games win "biggest wastes of time going" awards, at least in MMOs you can talk **** with people and have a social element. Most games are designed to "addict" you, well, designed to drip feed you positive feedback that keeps you playing, MMOs are more cynical about this than others but it exists in most genres really. The issue with MMOs I think is the social element, it can become the main or only social outlet for a person and this isn't healthy! It's the mix of constant "1 more turn/kill/whatever" with the social side and the competitive side that makes MMOs so "addictive" for people (I'm using scare quotes because whilst I do believe that people can become addicted to these games this is a far cry from the mere "overplaying" that many people seem to think addiction is (as opposed to unemployed and happy about it because it means more time for EVE or whatever that I've seen).

I played an MMO for about a year. Not WoW mind you. They're all about grinding. The worst part of most other genres. They have created a game that actively encourages players to exchange time for progression, and they charge by the month. It is in their best interests to retain as many players as possible. The entire business model just doesn't sit right with me.

Celadore

ShaShaBear wrote: »

Seriously, WoW?

Do you have a partner?
A diet?
Predictable toilet habits?
A fondness for sleep?

Not any more.

I am a lady who is responsible for sucking in no fewer than three of my ex's into WoW's cavernous mouth. I don't play nearly as often any more due to college commitments, but when I play - I play. Sure, there are things that changed I am not happy about (seriously miss the talent tree) and there are things that overjoy me to no end (making all of the spiders in that cave in the NE starting zone neutral instead of aggressive) but if you have never, ever played it before these things won't matter to you. The game will be what it is to a new player, not what it is no longer

Seriously though OP, dump your partner and buy some adult nappies/a share in Coca Cola.

Boyfriend looking nervously at me as I read out your post. Brilliant!!!!

ShaShaBear

Celadore wrote: »

Boyfriend looking nervously at me as I read out your post. Brilliant!!!!

Play together. Then steal gold from his account when hes not looking.
I promise thats not why I have three exs that play wow.

nesf

Grimebox wrote: »

I played an MMO for about a year. Not WoW mind you. They're all about grinding. The worst part of most other genres. They have created a game that actively encourages players to exchange time for progression, and they charge by the month. It is in their best interests to retain as many players as possible. The entire business model just doesn't sit right with me.

I don't disagree. It's not even just grinding, so many aspects of the game are there to keep you playing a bit longer before you get your cake. Grinding resist gear anyone? There were some raids in the old days where clearing trash could take a very large proportion of your raiding time. This is there in other genres too to give you the "80 hours of singleplayer content" part of the box flavour text. It is very cynical. They need to keep people playing to pay the bills though, it's becoming far less silly but it's definitely still there.

Magill

Loot isn't much of a reward if there is no effort required to gain it. Making items time consuming to get make them more desired.. some people (a lot of people really) like the idea of "earning" something over being giving it. There's a reason wow is the single most successful game ever made, it's hard to knock their strategy in keeping gamers attention.

Just have to take Diablo as a proof that a lot of people love grind/reward based games.. it's content/difficulty and social aspects are incredibly basic(compared to wow).. it's entire game revolves aren't killing the same AI in the same areas over and over all so you can progress your characters gear. Call it what you want... I enjoy it. Obviously not everyone does tho.

Vicxas

Magill wrote: »

Loot isn't much of a reward if there is no effort required to gain it. Making items time consuming to get make them more desired.. some people (a lot of people really) like the idea of "earning" something over being giving it. There's a reason wow is the single most successful game ever made, it's hard to knock their strategy in keeping gamers attention.

Just have to take Diablo as a proof that a lot of people love grind/reward based games.. it's content/difficulty and social aspects are incredibly basic(compared to wow).. it's entire game revolves aren't killing the same AI in the same areas over and over all so you can progress your characters gear. Call it what you want... I enjoy it. Obviously not everyone does tho.

I think the term for it is called "Loot Lust"

But I'm a horrible git for loot envy, have you ever stood in Stormwind/Origammar and seen someone fly their shiny, flaming mount passed you. And that little twinge in the back of your head just goes "Bastard"

Happens me all the time, and that's why I keep playing them.

Magill

Vicxas wrote: »

I think the term for it is called "Loot Lust"

But I'm a horrible git for loot envy, have you ever stood in Stormwind/Origammar and seen someone fly their shiny, flaming mount passed you. And that little twinge in the back of your head just goes "Bastard"

Happens me all the time, and that's why I keep playing them.

haha, yeah... used to get super jelly of people with the ZG tigers because at the time tigers were pretty rare (For us horde anyway) and I could never get one from our tiger farming.

Even inspecting people back when I first dinged 60 and looking in awe at all their shiny epics. I can still remember my first ever epic item... after a whole 4 or 5 months working my way to level 60.. THE ROBE OF THE VOID ! Amazing.... even if i looked ridiculous as a male orc wearing a purple robe !

Glebee

Stop guys, your tempting me back in...............

Vicxas

Glebee wrote: »

Stop guys, your tempting me back in...............

Jooooooin us.

And if you play about 2 hours of this you get a shiny mount.

ShaShaBear

Vicxas wrote: »

Jooooooin us.

And if you play about 2 hours of this you get a shiny mount.

I got a new sub today, going to give that a whack just for the mount!!