Mrs Brown's Boys D'Movie

AnonoBoy

roshje wrote: »

Wait and see

No I don't mean it won't win an IFTA. I mean that winning an IFTA isn't any great shakes - you make a feature film in Ireland that gets a cinema release then it's nearly a given that you get a nomination for an IFTA.

roshje

AnonoBoy wrote: »

No I don't mean it won't win an IFTA. I mean that winning an IFTA isn't any great shakes - you make a feature film in Ireland that gets a cinema release then it's nearly a given that you get a nomination for an IFTA.

Sorry took you up wrong:D

Adamantium

Transformers 4 and Ms. Brown Boys will be looked back as the Commando and Blackface of their day, respectively.

I've always wondered how many people actually go on dedicated forums like for gaming, tv, movies media like this and what percentage are just out there "in the wild", just going to see these things because, you know, they do. I'd wager 80% at least

The truth is if everybody love films he way we do, these films wouldn't succeed. 90% of people just don't, and frankly will never. Most people are "hipster" about something. That isn't a bad thing.

Found these user comments on the Escapist website and I couldn't finish this post without quoting all of them:

Here's what most people are like:

i like movies, i like all kind of movies, including big explosion dumb movies, because sometimes i'm just in a mood for that. some people have to stop thinking that the fringe of the population who goes to specialized forums, and that know more that the average joe about movies represent a majority. it doesnt. the same people ask every year why there's another call of duty comming out, that "real gamers" dont play them anymore. it's because hardcore gamers are not the majority of people that play games, they just thing they are the only one that count, which is elitism at it best

The people who watch Michael Bay movies also enjoy Community, Arrested Development, Game of Thrones, CSI, NCIS, The Goonies, Citizen Kane, Troll 2, love KISS both ironically and unironically, hate KISS, think Goldeneye is the greatest video game ever, think Call of Duty is the greatest game ever, think Halo is the greatest game ever, love Citizen Kane, never saw Citizen Kane, thought Sucker Punch was brilliant, thought Sucker Punch was garbage, and on and on.

They just like the movie. That's all. It signifies nothing more than the ability to enjoy a big dumb action movie that is made by Michael Bay. They're brilliant, they're stupid, they're every point in between.

We do this every time something is a success that we don't personally enjoy; we try to discredit the people who enjoy it as if they're some mass of folks who signify everything that is wrong with the world , forgetting that the numbers are so huge that they permeate every level of society. They're the same kind of people who made Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark classic films. They're same people who (statistically speaking) embraced Dark Knight and rejected Green Lantern. They're just people who wanted to see giant robots punch each other while stuff 'sploded.

IMO,I have to say there have incredible amounts of comedy shows that have come before that were far more deserving of success (hysterical in fact) of this one than this movie/series and the fact that just because this franchise is popular - the idea of linking it to FATHER TED is bizarre and inane.

It had go through multiple rankings in order to get where it was, in fact if you watch the documentaries, Linehan created a show specifically so it wouldn't make the Irish look like a big bunch of eejits and it had something NEW to say (goldmines of it in fact) His biggest inspiration was the Simpsons of the 90's. In fact most Irish people at first thought "Oh no, not again making us look they a bunch of begorrah's AGAIN", until they were proven very wrong.

The Inbetweeners was a goldmine too.

What O Carroll is doing is lazy with all the talent and writers available to him. I could say that of many other artists as well.

ButtersSuki

Was in Norn Iron last week on hols and heard the UK radio ad for MBB. The way the voice over guy (I think it's Peter Dixon) pronounces "D'Movie" made me laugh more than I doubt the film itself could. Whereas phonetically we say it as "da-movie" or "de-movie", Dixon says "Duhh-mooovie". It just sounds so weird hearing an English accent trying to deliver some Dublinese.

Also describes MBB as "the nation's favourite", the nation being Britain. Well fancy that!

AnonoBoy

roshje wrote: »

Sorry took you up wrong

Oooh-errr matron!

Tipsy McSwagger

Adamantium wrote: »

Transformers 4 and Ms. Brown Boys will be looked back as the Commando and Blackface of their day, respectively.

I've always wondered how many people actually go on dedicated forums like for gaming, tv, movies media like this and what percentage are just out there "in the wild", just going to see these things because, you know, they do. I'd wager 80% at least

The truth is if everybody love films he way we do, these films wouldn't succeed. 90% of people just don't, and frankly will never. Most people are "hipster" about something. That isn't a bad thing.

Found these user comments on the Escapist website and I couldn't finish this post without quoting all of them:

Here's what most people are like:






IMO,I have to say there have incredible amounts of comedy shows that have come before that were far more deserving of success (hysterical in fact) of this one than this movie/series and the fact that just because this franchise is popular - the idea of linking it to FATHER TED is bizarre and inane.

It had go through multiple rankings in order to get where it was, in fact if you watch the documentaries, Linehan created a show specifically so it wouldn't make the Irish look like a big bunch of eejits and it had something NEW to say (goldmines of it in fact) His biggest inspiration was the Simpsons of the 90's. In fact most Irish people at first thought "Oh no, not again making us look they a bunch of begorrah's AGAIN", until they were proven very wrong.

The Inbetweeners was a goldmine too.

What O Carroll is doing is lazy with all the talent and writers available to him. I could say that of many other artists as well.

Commando is a classic.

catallus

Tis a fine film, but tis no Under Siege, English.

roshje

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Oooh-errr matron!

You're happy so.....

e_e

Watched it today and surprise surprise it was rubbish. It doesn't even feel like they were trying at all.

Hadn't experienced much of Mrs Brown's Boys before this but it was really enough for a lifetime for me, let alone 90 minutes.

ancapailldorcha

e_e wrote: »

Watched it today and surprise surprise it was rubbish. It doesn't even feel like they were trying at all.

Hadn't experienced much of Mrs Brown's Boys before this but it was really enough for a lifetime for me, let alone 90 minutes.

Did you feel it was worse than the TV show?

e_e

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Did you feel it was worse than the TV show?

Like I said I haven't seen nearly enough to give a comparison.

I can report on the audience reaction though: Pretty crowded afternoon screening but there wasn't much laughter, and I heard somebody say it was a disappointment compared to the show.

candy-gal1

Have seen this twice already - let the slating begin so

I actually really enjoyed it, it was what is was and obviously if you dont enjoy the series at all then your more than likely going to hate the movie as with most TV shows that make into movies, imho switch off your brain a bit and just be entertained by its sillyness and quite a few laugh out loud moments

The scenery is fantastic also, as someone also said here its a real advertisement for Dublin, very funny, very real Dublin type, very very feelgood and leaves you a little bit teary at times (and that rarely happens with me at a movie)

Ill go again tbh if one of my mates/family wants to see it, 8/10

Elmo

laoch na mona wrote: »

really?? d'movie is a colloquial way of saying the movie.
you know like d'unbelievables

it should actually be d'fill'Emm

laoch na mona

laoch na mona wrote: »

really?? d'movie is a colloquial way of saying the movie.
you know like d'unbelievables

I'm fully aware of the colloquial. Its just something that occured to me when I saw D MOVIE written in massive letters on a bill board. I wouldn't be surprised if it had a double meaning and was a bit of typical Irish self deprecating humour.

e_e

http://dublinpeople.blogspot.ie/2014/07/critics-reaction-to-mrs-brown-movie-is.html

Rolled my eyes so much reading this in the Southside People today. Embarrassingly smug article which perfectly shows how the Irish can not take any form of criticism on the chin without resorting to straw-men, accusations and really petty jabs. Ironically says far more about the writer and (some of) the people lining up to defend this rubbish than it does the critics. That they can't actually defend the show/movie reasonably without resorting to ad-hominem attacks and ridiculous mischaracterizations of their opponents.

I mean like the show/movie all you want, it just embarrasses me that paid writers are now resorting to these playground tactics instead of actually discussing the film and others' response to it reasonably.

partyguinness

e_e wrote: »

http://dublinpeople.blogspot.ie/2014/07/critics-reaction-to-mrs-brown-movie-is.html

Rolled my eyes so much reading this in the Southside People today. Embarrassingly smug article which perfectly shows how the Irish can not take any form of criticism on the chin without resorting to straw-men, accusations and really petty jabs. Ironically says far more about the writer and (some of) the people lining up to defend this rubbish than it does the critics. That they can't actually defend the show/movie reasonably without resorting to ad-hominem attacks and ridiculous mischaracterizations of their opponents.

I mean like the show/movie all you want, it just embarrasses me that paid writers are now resorting to these playground tactics instead of actually discussing the film and others' response to it reasonably.

I think you may have missed the authors point. His essential point is that many of critics slat the film because it is not high brow enough and it is a slur on their great and noble job of film reviews. It doesnt matter a crap what critics think..the film is a box office success (if that is your measure of success). He was not trying to defend the film or any of its merits.

I am not a BOC fan and if he was playing at the bottom of my garden I would pull the curtains. I cannot understand why it is so popular especially here in England...I find it cringeworthy and appaling but hey ho...everyone to themselves...:cool:

But having said that, I thought the article hit the nail on the head and IMO there is a large degree of intellectual poo pooing.

A little like to slagging Gareth Brookes fans get (again I am no fan)...bascially a bunch of red neck hicks from middle Ireland not much more evolved than apes..would Leonard Cohen fans get such slagging?

e_e

partyguinness wrote: »

His essential point is that many of critics slat the film because it is not high brow enough

Which is exactly the kind of ridiculous straw man that I was calling out in my post. There is no point to miss, it's somebody being ridiculously defensive and painting critics as something that they are not. It's even more smug and condescending than the behavior (which doesn't even exist in the first place) that it's calling out.

I could also point you to silly comedies that have gotten near unanimous positive responses from the very critics who disliked D'Movie. How do you explain that?

The box-office has nothing to do with a film's quality to me.

e_e

The basic judge of comedy is "How much did I laugh?" and I doubt there's many professional critics who don't apply that rule to the genre. To accuse them of responding to MBB in too high-brow a way is way off the mark especially when the likes of 22 Jump Street (a genuinely hilarious film imo) gets near-universal positive reviews.

partyguinness

e_e wrote: »

Which is exactly the kind of ridiculous straw man that I was calling out in my post. There is no point to miss, it's somebody being ridiculously defensive and painting critics as something that they are not. It's even more smug and condescending than the behavior (which doesn't even exist in the first place) that it's calling out.

I could also point you to silly comedies that have gotten near unanimous positive responses from the very critics who disliked D'Movie. How do you explain that?

The box-office has nothing to do with a film's quality to me.

This is a matter of interpretation, but I do not believe he is being smug or even ridiculously defensive. With respect, I think your reaction is a little excessive to what is essentially someones blog.

He seems to revel in the fact that the film appears to wind up the so called 'high-brow' critics. He doesnt back that up. As a matter of interest, do you think there is any truth in that?

tipptom

One of the commenters at the bottom(ooer misses) of the Guardian made a valid point that this is catering to an audience that cinema is ignoring for years and that it is the first time in years that his mother(who is English) went to the cinema without her grandkids and she detests swearing but seems to not mind the way BOC gets it in without offence to her.


Don't like MBBs and when they pulled a clip for it for Graham Nortons show I would presume it would be one of the funniest to promote Dfilim but it was awful so I wont be going to see it but am happy for BOC as he seems to give a lot to charity and has had a lot of ups and downs in his life.

partyguinness

tipptom wrote: »

One of the commenters at the bottom(ooer misses) of the Guardian made a valid point that this is catering to an audience that cinema is ignoring for years and that it is the first time in years that his mother(who is English) went to the cinema without her grandkids and she detests swearing but seems to not mind the way BOC gets it in without offence to her.


Don't like MBBs and when they pulled a clip for it for Graham Nortons show I would presume it would be one of the funniest to promote Dfilim but it was awful so I wont be going to see it but am happy for BOC as he seems to give a lot to charity and has had a lot of ups and downs in his life.

Interesting. Sounds like my English co worker. Late 60s very prime and proper..would never swear in a million years...loves it and specifically mentions all the swearing. It seems to have a cathertic effect on repressed English old dears.

e_e

partyguinness wrote: »

This is a matter of interpretation

What's a matter of interpretation? Film watching and analysis? I agree which is exactly why I find the behavior of putting those that dislike it on some snooty upper class pedestal ridiculous.

partyguinness wrote: »

With respect, I think your reaction is a little excessive to what is essentially someones blog.

It's a blog post that got into a paper that was read by many people. My issue is not only with the piece itself but the kind of attitude that it's indicative of, putting down people who have dissenting voices and not daring to challenge anything just because it happens to be popular. Something that seems exclusive to Irish society to me. You didn't see the same cries of "Begrudgery!!!!! Bloody snooty critics!!!" when the Keith Lemon film was (financially) successful last year.

partyguinness wrote: »

He seems to revel in the fact that the film appears to wind up the so called 'high-brow' critics. He doesnt back that up. As a matter of interest, do you think there is any truth in that?

So what if it does? The article just seems like an excuse to gloat about the fact that a lot of people went to see it regardless. That's nothing new in terms of movies and it is such a tired old argument.

What high-brow critics btw? Literally every one I follow likes mainstream movies.

e_e

tipptom wrote: »

One of the commenters at the bottom(ooer misses) of the Guardian made a valid point that this is catering to an audience that cinema is ignoring for years and that it is the first time in years that his mother(who is English) went to the cinema without her grandkids and she detests swearing but seems to not mind the way BOC gets it in without offence to her.

This is one of the few positives of the film to me and I do hope it gets more people into the cinema from now on. The audience deserves better.

tipptom

e_e wrote: »

This is one of the few positives of the film to me and I do hope it gets more people into the cinema from now on. The audience deserves better.

It sees to have brought Feck and Fu*ck to a brand new audience.
Would be interesting to know what percentage of this demo watched Fr Ted or was turned of by it because it was to near the knuckle for them.


If somebody had shown me a pilot for this years ago and said they were going to pitch it at the BBC I would have made great efforts to check them in to a mental institution never mind some mentalist at the BBC approving it,putting it out and it becoming a massive success.
I would say Arthur Matthews and Graham linehan are livid at how simple it is to reach a massive audience, LOL

Sam Kade

It seems the only reason it did so well was from people going to see it that said it was shyte if they had the cop on not to bother going to the cinema to watch it would be a flop which it is in a sense

partyguinness

tipptom wrote: »

It sees to have brought Feck and Fu*ck to a brand new audience.
Would be interesting to know what percentage of this demo watched Fr Ted or was turned of by it because it was to near the knuckle for them.


If somebody had shown me a pilot for this years ago and said they were going to pitch it at the BBC I would have made great efforts to check them in to a mental institution never mind some mentalist at the BBC approving it,putting it out and it becoming a massive success.
I would say Arthur Matthews and Graham linehan are livid at how simple it is to reach a massive audience, LOL

Father Ted is War & Peace compared to BOC

mikeym

I went to see Mrs Browns Boys D'Movie last night and at the end Brendan O'Carroll mentions hurting his cock. A little girl no more then 6 or 7 next to me says. 'Mammy Daddy what's a cock'!!! I laughed out loud thinking that's what you get when you bring a child to a film where anything could be said. Good luck explaining that to the child fecking dumbasses.

Surely the staff at Mahon Point Omniplex should have denied entry to the child because she was too young to watch the movie??

mikeym

mikeym wrote: »

I went to see Mrs Browns Boys D'Movie last night and at the end Brendan O'Carroll mentions hurting his cock. A little girl no more then 6 or 7 next to me says. 'Mammy Daddy what's a cock'!!! I laughed out loud thinking that's what you get when you bring a child to a film where anything could be said. Good luck explaining that to the child fecking dumbasses.

Surely the staff at Mahon Point Omniplex should have denied entry to the child because she was too young to watch the movie??

Why would they deny entry, the film is rated 15A which means that anyone under that age can see it as long as they are accompanied by an adult. As for explaining the word, well it's hardly that big a deal. You can make something up or be truthful and explain that it's just another word for penis.

mikeym

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would they deny entry, the film is rated 15A which means that anyone under that age can see it as long as they are accompanied by an adult. As for explaining the word, well it's hardly that big a deal. You can make something up or be truthful and explain that it's just another word for penis.

Fair enough Im not up to date on the age Classification of movies.

Sam Kade

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would they deny entry, the film is rated 15A which means that anyone under that age can see it as long as they are accompanied by an adult. As for explaining the word, well it's hardly that big a deal. You can make something up or be truthful and explain that it's just another word for penis.

Then you could really confuse the child trying to explain why an old woman has a cock.

Call Me Jimmy

Then again it doesn't seem too much to be able to say to a 7 or 8 year old that the woman is a man dressed up and a cock is a penis.

Sam Kade

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Then again it doesn't seem too much to be able to say to a 7 or 8 year old that the woman is a man dressed up and a cock is a penis.

Yeah, and totally confuse the child.

Ipso

partyguinness wrote: »

Father Ted is War & Peace compared to BOC

More like Crime and Punishment, but he lost track of himself when he started the punishment bit.

ancapailldorcha

Ipso wrote: »

More like Crime and Punishment, but he lost track of himself when he started the punishment bit.

Very overrated novel with some fascinating insights into the human condition.

nc19

In my experience its a certain type of person who enjoys this muck.

I work with app. 120 people most of whom would be from worse off backgrounds/areas and its them that seem to enjoy it. I find it crass and very unintelligent. Its essentially just a man dressed as a woman cursing every few words.

not my kind of comedy.

now, I really dont begrudge the man his popularity or his success. I know he is very generous with his money and does a lot for charity and fair play to him for it.

I laughed my arse off watching him on Graham Norton but it was more the reactions of the other guests than him that amused me if im honest.

ancapailldorcha

App?

e_e

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

App?

approximately

ancapailldorcha

e_e wrote: »

approximately

Can't believe I needed to have that explained to me. Time for bed methinks.

Decuc500

nc19 wrote: »

In my experience its a certain type of person who enjoys this muck.

I work with app. 120 people most of whom would be from worse off backgrounds/areas and its them that seem to enjoy it.

Wow. How condescending. I haven't seen the film but I must admit the tv show does raise a chuckle or two and I'm not from a deprived background.

the_monkey

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3433074/?ref_=nv_sr_1

lovely gets 3.9

Any film with a rating less then 6 on there is almost always dogshíte ... I think Zombie Strippers even beats that one

johnny_ultimate

nc19, please note this section of the film forum charter:

The 'attack the post, not the poster' rule extends to more generalised posts. Condescending comments or generalised insults aimed at everyone and anyone who disagrees with you are just as bad as attacking an individual. You can easily argue for and against a film without having to make judgements on anyone whose opinion might differ from your own. These sorts of generalised attacks always have a toxic effect on discussion, and posters who use them will receive warnings or infractions and likely have their post deleted.

Please criticise the film, not the people who like / dislike it.

Slippin Jimmy

Seen this film the other week. Didn't expect much from it as I hate the show, but it was better than I expected. Great to see along the Liffey looking so nice compared to what it actually looks like.

CountyHurler

Just finished watching this now .. Got a copy from somebody so I just said I'd give it a roll from start to finish to see what the story is...

I was a bit surprised by it actually... The film has more of the feel of a British made-for-tv drama than the TV comedy series... Or maybe with the incredibly simplistic storylines and gratuitous car chases, a comparison with one of those BBC kids movies would be appropriate...

But with regard to the movie... It is well shot, and flows along quite nicely, and tbh a lot more professional looking than I was expecting... But it suffers from the same problems as the series... The plotlines are just unbelievably simplistic, so the story alone wont keep you entertained... There are a few jokes, and a few decent ones, but not enough that you could call the movie a comedy... And some of the jokes just get lost without the laughter track to guide the audience...

It was always going to be difficult for Brendan O'Connell to move the half hour series to the screen, as it is for any show that tries to make that move. And in spite of the huge audience figures that the film has received, I wouldnt say that the progression has been a success. But for a Sunday afternoon in front of the telly with nothing else on, it's certainly passable.. Now pass the box of quality street.. :pac:

tipptom

CountyHurler wrote: »

Just finished watching this now .. Got a copy from somebody so I just said I'd give it a roll from start to finish to see what the story is...

I was a bit surprised by it actually... The film has more of the feel of a British made-for-tv drama than the TV comedy series... Or maybe with the incredibly simplistic storylines and gratuitous car chases, a comparison with one of those BBC kids movies would be appropriate...

But with regard to the movie... It is well shot, and flows along quite nicely, and tbh a lot more professional looking than I was expecting... But it suffers from the same problems as the series... The plotlines are just unbelievably simplistic, so the story alone wont keep you entertained... There are a few jokes, and a few decent ones, but not enough that you could call the movie a comedy... And some of the jokes just get lost without the laughter track to guide the audience...

It was always going to be difficult for Brendan O'Connell to move the half hour series to the screen, as it is for any show that tries to make that move. And in spite of the huge audience figures that the film has received, I wouldnt say that the progression has been a success. But for a Sunday afternoon in front of the telly with nothing else on, it's certainly passable.. Now pass the box of quality street.. :pac:

That speaks for itself I would say but was reading that it has took ten times the amount of all other Irish film releases put together in 2014.


Wonder does that include Cavalry or is that counted as an Irish film now?!!

Wedwood

Think this movie belongs on one of the so bad it's good threads. You either get it or you don't.

Have to say, saw it in the cinema which was packed with people laughing from start to finish. It's not high brow, but then again it's not trying to be.

There's a lot of working class inner City Dublin humour in both the movie and series that clearly has an audience around the world at this stage.

Fair play to Brendan O'Carroll.

ancapailldorcha

I thought I'd already posted my thoughts on this but evidently not.

The local Cineworld had it on as a take 2 a few months back so I went in and saw it on a thankfully empty Tuesday evening. To be honest, empty is the best word I can use to describe it. I like the TV show but something was lost in the transition. The trailer ruined most of the jokes not that they were much to begin with. I felt like a critic who was there to work and put a review together and not like I was indulging a hobby. There were a few dozen old people there and they barely laughed at all. The only positive thing I can say about it is that there are some lovely shots of Dublin in it.

fryup

just watched it on DVD, (raining outside nothing else to do)

and i'm in a state of bewilderment typing this i really am.......

i just cannot believe that this tripe is so popular....the "pre-rehearsed" bloopers, the stupid sing songs, the chinese ninja wtf!:eek: its like 12 yr old humour dressing up as a chinaman doing the silly accent and slanty eyes, i mean ffs that sort of comedy went out with the ark

and the cherry on the cake the nauseating "we are the salt of the earth" speech at the end, totally cringeworthy, utterly contrived and unconvincing, felt like throwing up

Can't believe that that chancer has made a success out of this bollocks, i reckon he must wake up every morning laughing.

catallus

You, sir, need a funny-bone transplant.

Just because he doesn't try to be "down with the kids" doesn't mean O'Carroll isn't a comedic genius.

Its really one of the great mysteries of the universe. I can't believe this man has made a career out of it.

ancapailldorcha

It's not that much worse that some of the guff we've seen from Hollywood lately.