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Connacht Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Open from 2pm
    But think it's like €25 to gain access to Pavilion where showing the Ireland match (ya get a meal and all that included)

    Don't think Clan Bar has TV licence to show match

    I'm watching in Pucan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    im doing the pavillion route for an easier life


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Tis far from Pavillions I was raised. Last minute sprint from Pucan it is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    I'll favor a leisurely stroll to my spot in the clan :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    I think they're seriously missing a trick by not having the pavillion opened for everyone as well as the bar and upstairs at the main stand side for the Ireland game. It'd probably help with the atmosphere for our game too ;)


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Spotted JHW in the training photos from yesterday. Didn't think he was expected back this season so obviously things are going better than planned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    Robbo wrote: »
    Spotted JHW in the training photos from yesterday. Didn't think he was expected back this season so obviously things are going better than planned.


    Yeah it could be worthwhile for a potential play-off in May
    The bad side is there's no sign of Heffernan or Henry who is due to be back in April


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭S12b


    15. Tiernan O’Halloran
    14. Niyi Adeolokun
    13. Danie Poolman
    12. Dave McSharry
    11. Matt Healy
    10. Craig Ronaldson
    9. John Cooney

    1. Denis Buckley
    2. Tom McCartney
    3. Nathan White
    4. Quinn Roux
    5. Aly Muldowney
    6. John Muldoon (captain)
    7. Jake Heenan
    8. Eoghan Masterson

    Replacements:

    16. Shane Delahunt
    17. Ronan Loughney
    18. Rodney Ah You
    19. Mick Kearney
    20. George Naoupu
    21. Ian Porter
    22. Jack Carty
    23. Conor Finn

    By my reckoning, 11 of that team is 25 or younger!!
    Is Dave Heffernan injured atm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    Im happy this team is against Treviso, I know they are playing well I still think we should beat them. Poolman at 13 doesn't fill me with confidence Delighted Ronaldson is at 10 hopefully he can string a few games together now. White back is great, I get a dreaded feeling when i see Rodney play again, Bealham must be pushing for 2nd choice there soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭hermano


    That looks like the final nail in the coffin for Fionn Carr if he can't make the 23 with all the injuries


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    hermano wrote: »
    That looks like the final nail in the coffin for Fionn Carr if he can't make the 23 with all the injuries

    Sure he was having lunch in Donnybrook on Sunday while the Dragons game was on so he's obviously nowhere near the squad at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭S12b


    hermano wrote: »
    That looks like the final nail in the coffin for Fionn Carr if he can't make the 23 with all the injuries

    Yup he's surely a gonner.....Healy, Poolman, Niyi, TOH, Leader would all get picked ahead of him plus Gaffney in the academy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    for me Poolman is wasted in the centre, so for that reason Id switch Niyi and Finn and move Danie to the wing

    Good team regardless- thought Kearney would get a start but both Roux and Aly been playing well


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I thought the centres really struggled against Lanelli so I'm surprised to see Poolman, who looked lost, back there again.

    It may "only" be Treviso but Connacht desperately need to win this.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    I really would have preferred Finn in the centre rather than Poolman. Other than that I'm happy with the team.

    Forecast looks nippy enough with a breeze.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭S12b


    Anybody know much about the Treviso team? Decimated by Italian call-ups?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Yip alot of Treviso lads in Italian squad
    Their backrow and centres in particular


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Starting line-up:

    15 Jayden Hayward
    14 Henry Seniloli
    13 Andrea Pratichetti
    12 Sam Christie
    11 Ludovico Nitoglia
    10 James Ambrosini
    9 Alberto Lucchese

    8 Mat Luamanu
    7 Dean Budd
    6 Nicola Cattina
    5 Meyer Swanepoel
    4 Tomas Vallejos
    3 Rupert Harden
    2 Davide Giazzon (captain)
    1 Matteo Zanusso

    Replacements:

    16 Albert Anae
    17 Romulo Acosta
    18 Salesi Manu
    19 Corniel Van Zyl
    20 Paul Derbyshire
    21 Alberto Saccardo
    22 Joe Carlisle
    23 Francesco Menon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Both sides missing plenty of backs. Connacht should do this fairly handy, have to target the bonus point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Scarlets go to Ulster and Edinburgh go to Cardiff. This is a good chance for Connacht to get a bit of daylight between themselves and the chasers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Comparing the Treviso side to the one that bet Ospreys in the EPCR a month ago

    Vs Ospreys `| Pos | Vs Connacht
    Jayden Hayward |15| Jayden Hayward
    Angelo Esposito | 14 | Henry Seniloli
    Michele Campagnaro | 13 | Andrea Pratichetti
    Luca Morisi | 12 | Sam Christie
    Andrea Pratichetti |11 | Ludovico Nitoglia
    Samuel John Christie | 10 | James Ambrosini
    Edoardo Gori |9| Alberto Lucchese

    Mat Luamanu| 8 | Mat Luamanu
    Alessandro Zanni (capt) |7| Dean Budd
    Marco Barbini |6| Nicola Cattina
    Cornelius van Zyl |5| Meyer Swanepoel
    Marco Fuser | 4 |Tomas Vallejos
    Salesi Manu |3| Rupert Harden
    Albert Alfred Anae |2| Davide Giazzon (captain)
    Matteo Zanusso |1| Matteo Zanusso

    Replacements:

    Davide Giazzon |16| Albert Anae
    Josè Francisco Novak|17| Romulo Acosta
    Rupert Harden |18| Salesi Manu
    Antonio Pavanello |19| Corniel Van Zyl
    Francesco Minto |20| Paul Derbyshire
    Enrico Bacchin |21| Alberto Saccardo
    Simone Ragusi |22| Joe Carlisle
    James Ambrosini| 23| Francesco Menon


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Remember when James Ambrosini was the new great hope for the Italians at 10?

    I still maintain that they should have converted Andrea Pirlo.

    I've just had a listen to this weeks Craggy Island Rugby and an interesting nugget raised at the end was that our 27 tries have been scored by 17 players with only Marmion on more than 2 tries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Just thought, what's the latest info on tickets for the Gloucester game, are they sold out? I was thinking of heading to that before flying back for the Bath game in Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Robbo wrote: »
    Remember when James Ambrosini was the new great hope for the Italians at 10?

    I still maintain that they should have converted Andrea Pirlo.

    I've just had a listen to this weeks Craggy Island Rugby and an interesting nugget raised at the end was that our 27 tries have been scored by 17 players with only Marmion on more than 2 tries.

    That can't be right Poolman is our top scorer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Still tickets available in The Shed anyway, £20. Big Connacht crowd booked for The Shed so more than welcome


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭b.gud


    b.gud wrote: »
    That can't be right Poolman is our top scorer!

    Ya Poolman has 6 Healy and Marmion are both on 5 didn't check any other players


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    b.gud wrote: »
    That can't be right Poolman is our top scorer!

    Think they meant just in the Pro 12, Marmion is on 3 Tries and
    Following on 2:
    Ronaldson
    Muldowney
    Kearney
    Poolman
    McKeon


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭b.gud


    wprathead wrote: »
    Think they meant just in the Pro 12, Marmion is on 3 Tries and
    Following on 2:
    Ronaldson
    Muldowney
    Kearney
    Poolman
    McKeon

    Ah right, that makes sense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    wprathead wrote: »
    for me Poolman is wasted in the centre, so for that reason Id switch Niyi and Finn and move Danie to the wing

    Good team regardless- thought Kearney would get a start but both Roux and Aly been playing well

    100% agree


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    What's An Pucan like for food? Thinking of heading in early to get some grub and a seat with a view of a tv for the England game...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Zzippy wrote: »
    What's An Pucan like for food? Thinking of heading in early to get some grub and a seat with a view of a tv for the England game...

    for a good seat you'd wanna be there around 1, gonna aim for 12:45 myself to see if Cardiff v Edinburgh game be shown
    Food is surprisingly tasty, the wings are savage in there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭Redo91


    Any idea how long they will be letting people into the SG after K/O? I'm working til 6 so will be missing the 1st half but I have a season ticket so I might as well catch what I can when I already have it paid for. Would there still be lads at the gate around the start of the 2nd half?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭testtech05


    wprathead wrote: »
    for a good seat you'd wanna be there around 1, gonna aim for 12:45 myself to see if Cardiff v Edinburgh game be shown
    Food is surprisingly tasty, the wings are savage in there

    Id say it will be busy even before then. Liverpool are playing man city in the premiership on sunday at 12 so Id say a lot of people will plan on heading in for both games!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Redo91 wrote: »
    Any idea how long they will be letting people into the SG after K/O? I'm working til 6 so will be missing the 1st half but I have a season ticket so I might as well catch what I can when I already have it paid for. Would there still be lads at the gate around the start of the 2nd half?
    I normally work in the ground as a steward. They'll let you in. There is going to be so few stewards working at this game you will no problem getting in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Ulster doing us a favour they've just got their 3rd try against Scarlets are 12 points up with 20 mins to go and are well on top


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Final score at Ravenhill Ulster 25 - 20 Scarlets. Disappointing that they gave away a last minute try to give Scarlets the bonus point but still, I'll take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭eyeball kid


    b.gud wrote: »
    Ulster doing us a favour they've just got their 3rd try against Scarlets are 12 points up with 20 mins to go and are well on top

    I think they let Scarlets in for a try at the end to give them a lbp. Not ideal but at least they didn't win.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭hermano


    I think they let Scarlets in for a try at the end to give them a lbp. Not ideal but at least they didn't win.

    Very disappointing when you consider they were in ulsters 22 two or three times in the second half


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    5 points a must on Sunday after that. Cheers Ulster :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Just looking at the table, if we pick up 5 points we're only 5 points behind the Ospreys. That would be some fall for them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭Borders no.2


    evil_seed wrote: »
    5 points a must on Sunday after that. Cheers Ulster :rolleyes:

    You can't blame Ulster, did us a big favour last week and they have their own concerns. They had the game won and were pushing for 4 tries so game was always going to get a bit disjointed in the last few minutes. Disappointing but we need to go out and look after our side of the bargain on Sunday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    connachta wrote: »
    100% agree
    My gran rang pat about this. She pointed out that if he keeps playing players out of position how does she get any guarantee on her bookie bet. Its hard for people on pensions these days. They want some sense of a sure thing. Pat get it sorted


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭galwaylad14


    I think Scarlets getting a point tonight means we absolutely have to take Treviso for 5 points on Sunday. Given our run ins over the last 5 games we'd want to have a decent bit of a buffer built up before then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭ouncer


    I think Scarlets getting a point tonight means we absolutely have to take Treviso for 5 points on Sunday. Given our run ins over the last 5 games we'd want to have a decent bit of a buffer built up before then
    Explain strategy. Do think it is a good team selection. That said poolman at centre has been poor to date. And mcsharry has been not great. Come back bundee. At least ronladson may do well. Thank god the carty saga is done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    At this stage it would be unacceptable to not get 5 points here. I wouldn't take Treviso's result against Cardiff too seriously.

    I only realised last night that all Connacht need to get a 7th place finish to guarantee qualification, right? Then the 8th place goes into the playoff?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭S12b


    At this stage it would be unacceptable to not get 5 points here. I wouldn't take Treviso's result against Cardiff too seriously.

    I only realised last night that all Connacht need to get a 7th place finish to guarantee qualification, right? Then the 8th place goes into the playoff?

    Agreed, we're at home to a Treviso side decimated by international call-ups and we have our first choice pack available to us.....if we do the basics well, limit errors and play the game in their half....the floodgates should open as the game goes on. Plus if the weather is decent, it could be a chance for Matt and Niyi to stretch their legs!

    I'm never too well informed on these things but has it not always been top 6 automatic with 7th place into the play-off??? Has something changed??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    S12b wrote: »
    I'm never too well informed on these things but has it not always been top 6 automatic with 7th place into the play-off??? Has something changed??

    Dang now that I think about it you're right. It will be top 6 + plus the top Italian team who are automatic qualifiers. :(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Just looked on the HEC website and they've updated the qualification page for next season, the winner of the Challenge Cup was never mentioned before.
    Clubs qualify for the 2015/16 European Rugby Champions Cup in the following ways :.

    • PRO12: The seven highest-ranked clubs based on their finishing positions in the league. The seven qualifiers must include at least one club from each of Ireland, Italy, Scotland and Wales.

    For the 2014/15 season, the 20th qualifier was determined by a play-off over two legs between the clubs ranked seventh in the Aviva Premiership and the Top 14.

    For subsequent seasons, the play-offs for the 20th qualifier will include the following clubs:

    The eighth-ranked club from the PRO12, or the winner of the 2014/15 Challenge Cup if from the PRO12 and not already qualified for the Champions Cup.

    So with the Italian teams at the bottom it's going to be top 6 plus best Italian team who qualify automatically.

    Then the 7th placed team in the league, assuming the Italians stay at the bottom of the league, will go into the play off. Except if a Pro12 team wins the Challenge Cup and finishes lower than 7th.

    There are 4 Pro12 teams in the Challenge Cup knock outs (Conn, Edin, Cardiff, and Dragons) so it's not too unrealistic to see a Pro12 winner


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    S12b wrote: »
    Agreed, we're at home to a Treviso side decimated by international call-ups and we have our first choice pack available to us.....if we do the basics well, limit errors and play the game in their half....the floodgates should open as the game goes on. Plus if the weather is decent, it could be a chance for Matt and Niyi to stretch their legs!

    I'm never too well informed on these things but has it not always been top 6 automatic with 7th place into the play-off??? Has something changed??

    It is the top 7 but then you have to include 1 side from each country. Forgot about that bit when we were talking about it yesterday thomond....


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    It's essentially top 6 qualify and then 7th (provided someone below doesn't win challenge cup) goes into a playoff against English club to eventually meet a Franch club.


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