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Alfa 166 revival

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Next, break out an inch gun and 41mm socket for the crank pulley. Forget breaker bars, useless
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    Use a suitable pullers
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    Remove this guide roller beside the alternator
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    Oh boy....
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    Using the old crappy belt remove the 3 10mm bolts for the water pump pulley
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    Rotate to TDC. Forget dial floats, 21 o clock on the crank and a wiper blade in cyl 1 will tell you where TDC is. Off with the bearing caps and lock the cams. Didn't get a pic, but the same as the other guide. However, pics later on in this update...

    Now remove the belt. 2 bolts on the tensioner. Bit past it....
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    Still intact
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    Then I discover this. You heartless apes :mad:
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    Guide roller bolt rounded. HOW???!!!!!

    I had to buy tools to remove it
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    I can't repeat my conversation but much swearing, cursing and shouting was involved, directed at the ape who did this!

    The next day, timing covers off
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    Bracket off
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    More chimpanzee work
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    There were gouges in my new bracket. So I smoothed it down as much as I was arsed to
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Water pump off next. Means drain the coolant. Which is an arse to get to so I removed the airbox for better access. Cue the surprise quality work...
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    16 bolts later, it's off. See anything wrong in this cosy wosy picture?
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    These pumps FAIL. This wasn't going to last much longer!!!

    Gasket needs cleaned off. You can turn the thermo pipe housing for easier access
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    Yaaaaay!
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    Best to remove the crank sprocket and clean it up while you have the chance
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    Clean up all round it. White mess, all round a slippery shaft.....
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    Time to clean up the crusty covers
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    Clean up the rocker cover gasket faces too
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    Now the belt. It's very tight on room. I found that fitting the tensioner first followed by the rearmost sprocket with the belt on was the best way to start
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    Next, place on the second sprocket, beside the one put on. Route the belt down to the crank, up again, round the lower guide roller. Refit the remaining sprockets and route the belt on them. Finally, guide roller in the middle, refit it and all will have sat on perfect!
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    Tensioner tool time! Oh look, another picture from me on how to use the busso v6 tensioning tool, how generous....
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    Tensioned correctly
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    This concerned me, but was only visual and not detrimental. So on you go for now
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    Last of my pictures involves me refitting a shneering 4 eyed pulley, freshly greased
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    All rebuilt since

    I'll have more updates soon enough ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    That busso was lucky to last with that water pump. And after seeing the most detailed guide on the inter webs on one of these belt changed I now know why the labour is so high for the belt change.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Bolomaster


    Beautiful work man, I'm sure this skill will come in handy in future, if other boardsies need it done...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    More shtuff!

    First, swapping the boots and packing grease into the new old lower arms
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    The reason I'm swapping the arms


    Sounds like someone wiping their arse after a good watery shcutter :pac:

    Driveshaft renovation next. I have the other side to do still. Reason being
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    It's been off before too.... :rolleyes:
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    The hub cv comes off with a circlip, just tap it out. Then, drift off the old boot with a suitable punch
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    Pack it all with cv grease (I use MRM-2)

    Forget cable ties, this is the only clip to use
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    Looking good!
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    Now sitting awaiting bolting up
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    Lastly is my love for copper grease
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    Because the phone went dead.... However, I replaced and made a hybrid air box, connected up all the pipework, filled with coolant, power steering fluid, aux belt back on, hub nut on, check tightness of everything. Wheel on....

    I've been test driving it. Better than before, no more wheel bearing whine, less clonking at the front :cool:

    Still not done yet though!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Looking better now :)
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    Now relocated
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    Which meat the super (rusty ball of crap) left the garage, at bloody last. Had to shove on wheels, ever see 166 wearing dumpy looking 156 teledials? :pac:
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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    How's you get them to fit? Must say they look ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    How's you get them to fit? Must say they look ridiculous.

    A bit of fiddlin but they fit like they were made for the car.... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Bout time I popped in here again ;)

    First, tyres needed replacing. So off with the old
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    On with the new
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    And onto the car....
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    Dig that camber yo! :pac:

    Moving swiftly on.... Engine needed a bit of cleaning. Plenum off
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    Remove a few bits on the plenum
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    Off with everything else
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    With some simple yet epic work, we have a sparking looking engine
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Next batch of jobs: rad, pump, lights, boots. Rad pissing, pump groaning and there's more light from my piss than these headlights. Boots.... As before, shoddy work

    Front needs a good chunk removed to do this lot. The grilles slide to one side after the screws are removed
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    Slam panel, air box, drain coolant, disconnect air con pipes, fan, ducts at the side etc. Once that's all disassembled, rad out. It's an awkward fecker and blue with the cold....
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    Draining the power steering fluid by cracking the unions and collecting it without spilling a drop
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    Out with the old. Here's one I made earlier
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    Sitting pretty
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    A rad I pulled out of my rear end
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    Changing the aircon canister
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    Onto the lights. No need to remove the bumper, unbolt and just shove it to one side. 3 nuts, 1 bolt and a few plugs. Be grand
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    A nice wiper swap to flat blades
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    And another pair of CV boots. All I'll say is cable tie, universal boot, not in the recess. Quality job or what...
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    Last pic for now!
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    What will it look like in the next update.... ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    dgt have you every tool going. Equipment to make custom exhausts and now I see you can change tyres.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Only reading this thread now.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    dgt have you every tool going. Equipment to make custom exhausts and now I see you can change tyres.

    I've always been able to change tyres ;)

    Small update now! I'd like to say I have more pics but I've just been pressed for time, with the time this car takes up!

    Painted now
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    And in the process of getting it's new door :D
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    I'd love to see more pictures of it myself, but that's all I have for now! :(

    One could say, it needs final touches here and there, but it's there or thereabouts mechanically :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Oil changed and coolant changed. No pictures of either due to doing them in the pissing rain for the most part :rolleyes:

    Hopefully I'll be able to put it inside tomorrow and change out the power steering pump. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Well what's become apparent is that I'm sh1t at remembering to take photos compared to the previous owner of this thread :p

    Today I changed the power steering pump in the car so it actually works :p It's a big heavy car with wide tyres for a weakling like me to steer without power steering working!

    The new pump is a little noisy (not as loud as the last one) but works perfectly. After a bit of reading on the internet it seems that excessive end float on the shaft makes them noisy. Apparently it can be shimmed out of them to make them tight again. I'll do a bit of experimenting on the one I took out today and see what I can do :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,357 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    What's going on with the change from dgt to dead zebra?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    mickdw wrote: »
    What's going on with the change from dgt to dead zebra?

    One person sold a car and the other bought one :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,357 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Ded_Zebra wrote: »
    One person sold a car and the other bought one :D

    Unusual situation to take over mid refurb and continue the thread. Was confused by that.
    Had a 166 years ago myself so good luck with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    mickdw wrote: »
    Unusual situation to take over mid refurb and continue the thread. Was confused by that.
    Had a 166 years ago myself so good luck with it.

    It's a bit odd alright but it takes all sorts :D

    We've both be planing this for ages and ages, Since he started working on the car actually :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Finally took pictures of something I did to the car :D

    I rented a carpet cleaner. €40 well spent :). The drivers footwell was the worst and didn't come up 100% but I think you'll agree it's a massive improvement.

    Before

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    After a hoover

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    After cleaning

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    It still looks crap in the after picture but it's a massive improvement in real life. The rest of the carpets came up perfect.

    Just ordered a set of these for it so that will make the carpet perfect looking.

    http://www.carmats.co.uk/alfa-romeo-car-mats/166/alfa-romeo-166-saloon-2-5-3-ltr-model-mats.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭toyotaavensis


    If you really want to try and get it back to being as good as new a good scrubbing with 1001 carpet cleaner might do the trick


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    If you really want to try and get it back to being as good as new a good scrubbing with 1001 carpet cleaner might do the trick

    Is that the best stuff? Might try it thanks :)

    I used the cleaner that they sold me with the machine I rented. I even tried it 1:1 with water and give it a good scrub and soak. I tried Vanish too. It'll be covered with the mats so I'm not too worried if I can't get it any better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭toyotaavensis


    1001 is house carpet polish but i have had luck with it in the past


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    a huge improvement none the less. i have a wet vac and a **** load of rug doctor detergent left it you want to borrow it over the mid term next week!

    a top gear top tip to make that foot well look a whole lot better, i would get a lunch box full of apc and hot water and place it under the pedals then scrub them (and the clutch foot rest) with a paint brush. makes such a difference i find.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    a huge improvement none the less. i have a wet vac and a **** load of rug doctor detergent left it you want to borrow it over the mid term next week!

    a top gear top tip to make that foot well look a whole lot better, i would get a lunch box full of apc and hot water and place it under the pedals then scrub them (and the clutch foot rest) with a paint brush. makes such a difference i find.

    I've shampoo and a wet vac too. Cheers though :)

    Cleaning the pedals is on the list too. The list is getting long :D:P I'm actually going to order new pedal rubbers at some stage. Just trying to find some for reasonable money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    what's the long term plan for it? judging by the amount of work poured into in, i take it it's a "keep forever" kind of car. i'd say it looks rather well with a good wash. there's one often parks near me in work, a wine red 99, they actually have such a presence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    what's the long term plan for it? judging by the amount of work poured into in, i take it it's a "keep forever" kind of car. i'd say it looks rather well with a good wash. there's one often parks near me in work, a wine red 99, they actually have such a presence.

    The plan is to keep it long enough term alright. Bodywork wise it needs a fair bit of work but hopefully it'll get there. I'm working on getting the interior and mechanicals perfect at the moment :)

    I forgot to set an alarm last night and woke up 2 minutes after the carpet cleaner was due back. First chance for a spirited drive :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    There were mats but they were beyond saving and non 166 mats, so they got the bin. For your sanity I won't show the condition of the interior when I got the car but it would turn your stomach :eek: and a fraudsters dream with credit card details, memberships to clubs, home address, work address etc... A big fire was lit and most of that stuff went in it :)

    I still have your dehumidifier too :o

    Did you change the green c/l relay yet?

    For the record, I am beyond delighted to see the car go to a good home, where I know it will be cherished and be driven on a regular basis :) the car is far from finished but most of the major mechanicals have been seen to :) I'm winding down on my collection as I don't have the time anymore and just want to focus on my main stuff (E34 and hopefully another car very soon). I have a list of parts on priority left to deliver when I get the time (lack of time these days) and eventually it will be as good as new, without the new price tag of £35000 in 1999 :p

    Keep updating as I look foreward to it :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    dgt wrote: »
    There were mats but they were beyond saving and non 166 mats, so they got the bin. For your sanity I won't show the condition of the interior when I got the car but it would turn your stomach :eek: and a fraudsters dream with credit card details, memberships to clubs, home address, work address etc... A big fire was lit and most of that stuff went in it :)

    I still have your dehumidifier too :o

    Did you change the green c/l relay yet?

    For the record, I am beyond delighted to see the car go to a good home, where I know it will be cherished and be driven on a regular basis :) the car is far from finished but most of the major mechanicals have been seen to :) I'm winding down on my collection as I don't have the time anymore and just want to focus on my main stuff (E34 and hopefully another car very soon). I have a list of parts on priority left to deliver when I get the time (lack of time these days) and eventually it will be as good as new, without the new price tag of £35000 in 1999 :p

    Keep updating as I look foreward to it :cool:

    I was looking everywhere for that dehumidifier today!!!:p

    I've been meaning to ask you about that relay… Where does it go :pac: I put it in the centre console but it didn't improve the locking :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Ded_Zebra wrote: »
    I was looking everywhere for that dehumidifier today!!!:p

    I've been meaning to ask you about that relay… Where does it go :pac: I put it in the centre console but it didn't improve the locking :p

    Under the steering column, where you adjust the rake and height, that panel unbolts :D


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