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Irish Army / Drug Screenings

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  • 31-03-2014 4:36am
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    gincy
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭


    I want to join the Army but there may still be a few stray chemicals still floating around in the system so I'm wondering, does anybody know when a Recruit is likely to get their first screening? / Is there a drugs test upon application?

    Obviously since hearing about the recruitment I've abstained from any such "indulgences" and am completely committed to upholding such an abstinence if I get in, the Army's no place for spliffs like.
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    Morpheus
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    For the drug test, having sat through a few briefings on it, my understanding is that it CAN take up to six months for the trace elements to reach a low enough level to pass, but that is purely depending on what illegal substances you were consuming.


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    PlanIT Computing
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    Morpheus wrote: »
    For the drug test, having sat through a few briefings on it, my understanding is that it CAN take up to six months for the trace elements to reach a low enough level to pass, but that is purely depending on what illegal substances you were consuming.

    Was this the red pill or the blue pill?


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    discus
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    Its probably a standard urine test, so google it, it should give you the timeframe for each drug.


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    tac foley
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    So how does the PDF treat those who have tested positive?

    tac


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    EncinoMan
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    isn't it possible to do voluntary drug tests yourself with an outside agency? I've heard of people doing this before.


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    Morpheus
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    Serving members or potential recruits?

    if its the former there's a program in place, if its the latter, ive no idea.


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    Member 420
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    It depends how frequent you use such drugs as well. Cannabis for example will be in your system for around two months if you were taking it on a daily basis, if you only took it the odd time (less than 4 times a month) it might be there for two weeks. It also depends on how much you use each time.


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    SIRREX
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    tac foley wrote: »
    So how does the PDF treat those who have tested positive?

    tac

    Failure of compulsary random drug testing (or failure/refusal to provide a sample) results in dismissal, but you can appeal and have the "B" sample tested at your own expense. After a change in regulations there is now a mechanism where anyone who succeeds in their appeal, or falls under suspicion for any other reason, can agree to be under observation for a prolonged period (up to 18 months AFAIR). During this period they would be subject to drug testing the same way as Athletes etc, in that they must be available for testing at all times


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    tac foley
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    Thank you, Sir. Much the same as in the British Armed Forces then.

    tac


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    gincy
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    If going under observation's an option I wouldn't have a problem with it so I guess that's alright.


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    SIRREX
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    gincy wrote: »
    If going under observation's an option I wouldn't have a problem with it so I guess that's alright.

    Somehow I doubt it would be an option if you showed a dodgy result in the medical. Any flags would lead to a fail and that's the end of it


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    SIRREX
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    tac foley wrote: »
    Thank you, Sir. Much the same as in the British Armed Forces then.

    tac

    Bye the way don't call me Sir! I work for a ......etc, etc:D


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    Frosty McSnowballs
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    You will under no circumstances be given the option for observation after a positive result on the entrance medical.


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    Horusire
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    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »
    You will under no circumstances be given the option for observation after a positive result on the entrance medical.

    That. Not a hope you will be allowed! Positive test = instant Fail


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    cookie.monster
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    OP i recently heard of a fella that was in recruits with me that got the sack for having substances in his blood, was fcukin delighted when i heard he was an arsehole anyway


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    earlytobed
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    was in Amsterdam with a few lads a couple of years ago and a serving PDF member would not indulge in the local herb even though it was legal there for fear of random blood testing


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    SIRREX
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    earlytobed wrote: »
    was in Amsterdam with a few lads a couple of years ago and a serving PDF member would not indulge in the local herb even though it was legal there for fear of random blood testing

    That would be because it doesn't matter if it's legal in Amsterdam, it's forbidden for a member of the DF to partake of certain substances, no matter where. If being legal in the country where you are is the deciding factor then the Lads who were in Somalia could have been off their faces on Qhat, obviously not a good idea


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