Irish Teen Fears Execution in Egypt

skooterblue2

DarkyHughes wrote: »

Well what did he blow up?

Well nothing really. But he was at Luxor when the riots started. If he is claiming a hand wound from bird shot that means he was front and center in the riot. Then if his sister got hit umpteen times (open to correction on this number) by rubber bullets.

It is more significant for the Irish state not to allow him to go unpunished or that the Irish passport be seen as a flag of convience to get little Abe and everyother little Jihadist and spooks (Brian Keenan) caught up in thing as opposed to our own citizens and Aid workers who get caught up in situations. Ireland is already being used as a resting point for Al Queda/ISIS fighters to recouperate as well as other counteries in Western Europe.

bodhrandude

So has this guy been executed yet.

skooterblue2

bodhrandude wrote: »

So has this guy been executed yet.

No they are going to hold him for another 8 years and then try him. This is based on trying 6 agitators every 6 weeks. Then when he is charged we will know how long he has to serve.

There is a lot more to this story than a boy who shouted the equivalent of "Up the 'RA". It has to do with his father and his fathers links to Muslim Brother hood internationally. Y'know the phrases, The apple doesnt fall far from the tree and from little acorns great nuts grown. Best to nip it in the bud.

SKETT

bodhrandude wrote: »

So has this guy been executed yet.

Not yet, what's far more likely to kill him is his "heart condition", or the hunger strike he's been on since February.

skooterblue2

SKETT wrote: »

Not yet, what's far more likely to kill him is his "heart condition", or the hunger strike he's been on since February.

Ahh the hunger strike? ........

stoneill

He's not really Irish though..

end of the road

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Well nothing really.

exactly. nothing

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Ireland is already being used as a resting point for Al Queda/ISIS fighters to recouperate as well as other counteries in Western Europe.

your exaggerating. 1 or 2 which are known and are being monitored accordingly by the gards but nothing more.

stoneill wrote: »

He's not really Irish though..

he is . as irish as you and me. get used to it

SeanW

end of the road wrote: »

he is . as irish as you and me. get used to it

He's a traitor. He was caught red handed giving a speech at Egypts equivalent of the Nuremberg Rallies. Deserves everything he has coming. Zero sympathy.

skooterblue2

end of the road wrote: »

exactly. nothing

he is . as irish as you and me. get used to it

Well that is not strictly true ....... then what do Egyptian Intelligence have on his file? They arent holding him for nothing. What are they really holding him for? I dont know. The family lawyer had 6 of his films taken off Youtube and that includes his "Rivers of blood will flow through the streets" speech. If I only know this ... Imagine what Egyptian Ministry of the Interior and Military intelligence have on him.

He is as Irish as you and me? The last lad who put on big boy pants and boots and went down to South America to play soldiers came back in a pine box. All things considering he is doing very well. In these type of situation, there can be a lot of confusion, negligible discharges, mistaken intent, colateral damage, mistaken identity, failure to identify. Your boy is very luck at the moment. If the Egytian Brigadier had found him before the Irish Ambassador this thread would be long over.

The Thanks the Irish Ambassador got from him and the family.... They wanted her to be replaced. If I was the Irish ambassador I would have given him a box of Tampax, why because you can go horse riding, swimming, gynmastics ......... intstead of using embassy funds for care packages.

skooterblue2

SeanW wrote: »

He's a traitor. He was caught red handed giving a speech at Egypts equivalent of the Nuremberg Rallies. Deserves everything he has coming. Zero sympathy.

Well now he is going to have to face the equivalent of the Nuremberg Trials. I wonder if they are going to show the book of evidence on the Oireachtas Channel ......... more interesting than the enquiry into should we allow shrew fighting as blood sports.

end of the road

SeanW wrote: »

He's a traitor.

he isn't.

SeanW wrote: »

He was caught red handed giving a speech

and?

SeanW wrote: »

Deserves everything he has coming.

he doesn't

SeanW wrote: »

Zero sympathy.

not at all, lots of sympathy. if your truely irish

skooterblue2

end of the road wrote: »

not at all, lots of sympathy. if your truely irish

The only people giving him sympathy is Amnesty International. That is because all the Immams are getting the faithful to fund this (70k+ muslims in the ROI). This money goes for lobbyists.

Colm O Gorman (god bless his little heart) is doing his best to print posters and get backhanders from media and design companies which are his own buddies. In reality there is no intention but to milk the masses for money.

If there was any possibility of getting him free, when little Abe got back here, He would be chopping off gay guys heads and enlightening lesbiens Bishops.

K.Flyer

end of the road wrote: »

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not at all, lots of sympathy. if your truely irish

What a nonsensical statement, there are many a true blooded Irishman with no sympathy for him or his family whatsoever.

custard gannet

end of the road wrote: »

anyone who has an irish passport deserves it, otherwise they wouldn't have been given it by the government. not liking ones skin colour or religion changes that i'm afraid.

But you and the rest of the left are the ones with the skin colour problem. If his name was Sean Byrne and he was in prison for being involved in a pub brawl in a Sharm al Sheik nightclub you couldn't give a toss about him - he is only getting enhanced treatment because the government don't want his sisters to describe them as racist.

not only are they under no obligation to publically do anything,

I would have thought that the states highest ranking Egyptian cleric would be the perfect person to sound an opinion on a religiously motivated terrorist attack in his homeland myself.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The British won't stand for this nonsense

Actually the Brits are soft as tissue when it comes to this type of thing.

[url]Https://en.Wikipedia.Org/wiki/shaker_aamer[/url]

This guy lied about why he was in Afghanistan, lied about why he was unable to return to Saudi Arabia, admitted moving to Afghanistan because he believed Taliban society was a better environment to raise his children in than that in Britain. Fundamentalist Islam, blatant lies in his account and a darling of the left, he is a carbon copy of our young friend Halawa.

End of the road, out of curiosity were you trying to get this chap released 10 or so years ago, and if so are you pleased with the result.

http://www.channel4.com/news/jamal-al-harith-guantanamo-detainee-flees-to-syria

end of the road

custard gannet wrote: »

But you and the rest of the left are the ones with the skin colour problem.

dear dear. your sort will make up any old thing won't you?

custard gannet wrote: »

If his name was Sean Byrne and he was in prison for being involved in a pub brawl in a Sharm al Sheik nightclub you couldn't give a toss about him

have you evidence for that claim? no? grand so, i knew you wouldn't, because its bollox

custard gannet wrote: »

he is only getting enhanced treatment because the government don't want his sisters to describe them as racist.

the government couldn't care a less whether they are described as being racist, it doesn't even register. it has no baring on their decisian on how they deal with this chap. the fact he is being held in prison in a country which doesn't have a functioning government is the reason he is getting "enhanced" treatment as you put it

custard gannet wrote: »

I would have thought that the states highest ranking Egyptian cleric would be the perfect person to sound an opinion on a religiously motivated terrorist attack in his homeland myself.

i'm sure he has done so all ready, but to the people that matter and not to the usual types who expect him to do so publically just because he is muslim

custard gannet wrote: »

Actually the Brits are soft as tissue when it comes to this type of thing.

no they aren't

custard gannet wrote: »

This guy lied about why he was in Afghanistan, lied about why he was unable to return to Saudi Arabia, admitted moving to Afghanistan because he believed Taliban society was a better environment to raise his children in than that in Britain. Fundamentalist Islam, blatant lies in his account and a darling of the left, he is a carbon copy of our young friend Halawa.

wrong i'm afraid, he told no lies. the only bit of the nonsense thrown out by murika that is true was that he was on the border heading to pakistan as part of his charity work. he was innocent, he was released because he was innocent, nothing more to it. nothing to do with the left.

weldoninhio

end of the road wrote: »

no it isn't. complete rubbish. 1 or 2 which are known and are being monitored accordingly by the gards but nothing more

Jesus, talk about contradicting yourself. It's complete rubbish except for the ones that are here hahahahahaha

pmasterson95

Ya real irishmen care about Egyptian terrorists. Just execute him and move on.

ihatemyfish

SKETT wrote: »

Not yet, what's far more likely to kill him is his "heart condition", or the hunger strike he's been on since February.

Hunger strike since February? I don't think that's possible. Has anyone checked under his bed for Taytos, Brennan's bread and Kerrygold?

skooterblue2

end of the road wrote: »

no it isn't. complete rubbish. 1 or 2 which are known and are being monitored accordingly by the gards but nothing more

The two that you mentioned were from Waterford and were picked up in Syria last year. I Seriously Doubt it was either Mossy Brennan or Masher Walsh cos they told me they were heading to Spain last year. So who were they and the Media have gone strangely Quiet on this one.

Yoou still have to comment on the Snowden / wiki leak files where the Americans
asked Dublin for thier files on the Halawa family. Possibly looking for Granny Halawas Secret recipie for hummus dip or something else.

As for passports being bought the Shiek turned up in Ireland with Funds for a Mosque, that would be the equivalent of an investment, comparable to purchasing a passport in the 1980's. I think a direct investment of 1 milllion pounds was needed. Beneficiaries were C&D Foods, Diamond Engineering etc

end of the road

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Ya real irishmen care about Egyptian terrorists. Just execute him and move on.

execute him for what. he is irish

darkpagandeath

end of the road wrote: »

execute him for what. he is irish

Most reasonable people are not calling for this at all and are just waiting for legal proceedings to sort out the issue. And on the bold part that is incorrect do we have to explain how duel citizenship works. And the whole I have come home on camera blah blah Egyptian matter blahh blah. Sure did not one of the sisters not flee the Egyptian family home to escape jail.

skooterblue2

end of the road wrote: »

execute him for what. he is irish

feels like talking to a dog chasing a ballon tied to his own tail at this stage.
Istigating a riot. If he isnt guilty then he is thick. getting a a "bird shot wound" and then coming back for more..... unless it is completely made up like the heart complaint (GAA all star) and "we were only on holiday". I mean any normal person in a second world country would be on the first flight home.

What does him claiming an Irish Passport have to do with anything? So when Timothy McVeigh went on a killing rampage in downtown Manhatten were you singing "Danny boy" and claiming that he needs to come to Co, Clare?

ihatemyfish

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Ya real irishmen care about Egyptian terrorists. Just execute him and move on.

Has he been charged of anything yet?

DarkyHughes

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Nothing, I think most charges are for being part of a protest that turned uber violent people got killed churches burnt down and so on so forth. The whole giving speeches will not have gone down well with the military either. Having to have taken back control from a failed test in democracy as the Mb lad was changing the Constitution to be a dictatorship.

So he's going to be executed for a riot where may or may not have hurt anyone or was in destroying buildings.

If people got executed for rioting up North 10's of 1000's would be executed each summer.

DarkyHughes

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Most reasonable people are not calling for this at all and are just waiting for legal proceedings to sort out the issue. And on the bold part that is incorrect do we have to explain how duel citizenship works. And the whole I have come home on camera blah blah Egyptian matter blahh blah. Sure did not one of the sisters not flee the Egyptian family home to escape jail.

Can people in North of Ireland have duel citizenship? They have Irish passports I know.

acb121

I am sick of this LYING family of Jihadists and Muslim Brotherhood / CAGE / Isis / Islamic Terrorism supporters.

The birdshot is nothing. Sure wasn't he gassed as well ? I lose track of their shyte.

One of the sisters was supposedly shot 20 TIMES WITH RUBBER BULLETS.

One of the sisters was in a street when an airplane DROPPED A BOMB.

The lot of them were in a massacre where 1000 PEOPLE WERE KILLED and they were of about 30 survivors.

Not one major media outlet has asked them some very obvious questions. The Irish media are an abosolute f**king disgrace. Never mind the " Fears Execution " and the " Hunger Strike " ( when the reality was he was living in a cell with Peter Greste and they had their own f**king kitchen where Peter apparently taught his young cellmate to cook ) " Hell In A Cell ", " Beaten With Chains ", these girls should be writing the scripts for the WWE.

One of those sisters was living IN THE FAMILY HOME IN CAIRO, where the mother and other sister(s) live. She had come to Ireland in her 20s, to the IRISH FAMILY HOME, lived in Dublin 3 years, then went back supposedly "for good".

Suddenly she is Irish. It's laughable. Thanks to her lies, she will have to love Ireland now as much as she professes to, as she is stuck with it.

They are a bunch of liars.

It's sickening watching the Irish media suck up to them.

R P McMurphy

skooterblue2 wrote: »

feels like talking to a dog chasing a ballon tied to his own tail at this stage.
Istigating a riot. If he isnt guilty then he is thick. getting a a "bird shot wound" and then coming back for more..... unless it is completely made up like the heart complaint (GAA all star) and "we were only on holiday". I mean any normal person in a second world country would be on the first flight home.

What does him claiming an Irish Passport have to do with anything? So when Timothy McVeigh went on a killing rampage in downtown Manhatten were you singing "Danny boy" and claiming that he needs to come to Co, Clare?

That is extremely disingenuous given that Ibrahim Halawa was born and raised in Ireland. Holding dual citizenship does not somehow negate that fact

darkpagandeath

DarkyHughes wrote: »

So he's going to be executed for a riot where may or may not have hurt anyone or was in destroying buildings.

If people got executed for rioting up North 10's of 1000's would be executed each summer.

Who's getting executed ?

darkpagandeath

R P McMurphy wrote: »

That is extremely disingenuous given that Ibrahim Halawa was born and raised in Ireland. Holding dual citizenship does not somehow negate that fact

Yes it does under the law. Don't like it don't have duel citizenship and commit a crime in a country one has citizenship in.

acb121

R P McMurphy wrote: »

That is extremely disingenuous given that Ibrahim Halawa was born and raised in Ireland. Holding dual citizenship does not somehow negate that fact

I would be quite interested to know details about the whole family.

One of the sisters lived IN THE FAMILY HOME IN CAIRO well into her 20s, came to Ireland for less than 3 years, went " Home " TO EGYPT, and as soon as the shyte hit the fan suddenly wanted to come " Home " to IRELAND.

The mother and at least 1 sister live in Cairo.

None of this adds up.

If he was born in Ireland, perhaps that was a bestowed the convenient IBC and PIBC status. The family certainly spend a lot of time in Cairo.

acb121

end of the road wrote: »

wrong i'm afraid, he told no lies. the only bit of the nonsense thrown out by murika that is true was that he was on the border heading to pakistan as part of his charity work. he was innocent, he was released because he was innocent, nothing more to it. nothing to do with the left.

Shaker Aamer was living with Moazzam Begg. Shaker Ameer was travelling into Afghanistan with Moazaam Begg.

You know, the same Moazam Begg who jiholidayed in places such as Bosnia.

Who was arrested in a plot which revolved around defrauding his employers in the British Welfare State and channelling it to Islamic terrorists.

Look up the friends of Mozaam Begg.

Shaker Aamer could have gone "home" to Saudi Arabia in 2007. He chose to stay in Guantanamo.

R P McMurphy

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yes it does under the law. Don't like it don't have duel citizenship and commit a crime in a country one has citizenship in.

While having dual Egyptian citizenship has caused issues for him now it certainly doesn't change the fact that he was born and raised here and is Irish. A lot of Irish people have dual citizenship and it certainly doesn't make them any less irish

acb121

If he was born and raised in Japan, would that make him a " Japanese Teenager " ?

If he was born and raised in China, would that make him a " Chinese Teenager " ?

If he was born and raised in India, would that make him an " Indian Teenager " ?

If he was born and raised in Saudi Arabia, would that make him a " Saudi Arabian Teenager " ?

If he was born and raised in an Inuit enclave, would that make him an " Inuit Teenager " ?

darkpagandeath

R P McMurphy wrote: »

While having dual Egyptian citizenship has caused issues for him now it certainly doesn't change the fact that he was born and raised here and is Irish. A lot of Irish people have dual citizenship and it certainly doesn't make them any less irish

How many Irish people with duel citizenship does one know go on Riots in other countries declare they have come home and it's their countries matter.

skooterblue2

DarkyHughes wrote: »

Can people in North of Ireland have duel citizenship? They have Irish passports I know.

No they have to declare if they want an Irish or a UK Passport. Either is fine but not both. how every you can change alligences but you cannot hold both simultaneously

skooterblue2

R P McMurphy wrote: »

While having dual Egyptian citizenship has caused issues for him now it certainly doesn't change the fact that he was born and raised here and is Irish. A lot of Irish people have dual citizenship and it certainly doesn't make them any less irish

None of this Dual citizenship would matter if he minded his own business and didnt get involved with something that didnt concern him. It was sittiing his leaving sert he should be not raising riots and getting patsi's killed

DarkyHughes

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Who's getting executed ?

Well the thread tittle says he could be getting executed. So what are they going to do to him>

darkpagandeath

DarkyHughes wrote: »

Well the thread tittle says he could be getting executed. So what are they going to do to him>

I thought it's been established he has never faced a death penalty. That's come from one side only let me think who..

skooterblue2

DarkyHughes wrote: »

Well the thread tittle says he could be getting executed. So what are they going to do to him>

they are going to hold him for 8 years and then charge him and try him.

foggy_lad

R P McMurphy wrote: »

While having dual Egyptian citizenship has caused issues for him now it certainly doesn't change the fact that he was born and raised here and is Irish. A lot of Irish people have dual citizenship and it certainly doesn't make them any less irish

When on trial or facing charges in another country for which you hold a passport you will always be considered to be a citizen of that country even if you hold dual citizenship!

If this guy was arrested in Ireland he would be considered Irish not Egyptian and would not be allowed to claim he was Egyptian despite having an Egyptian passport.

acb121

The title of the thread should be changed.

The source of this is the LYING Hawala family, with their screeching hysteria that gets reported as the truth by the Irish Media.

The same as a previous thread where he was being " Beaten With Chains ", and on " Hunger Strike ".

They are a bunch of liars. If they had nothing to hide, they would simply tell the truth. They have changed their story so many times. There is not one definitive account of this fairytale.

Hunger Strike ?

Here's a quote from Omaima

" She said her brother had considered "a couple of times" going on hunger strike, but decided against it because of fear of extreme violence from prison guards. Omaima added: "Those that go ahead with it are physically tortured in a horrific way. It took my mom a while to convince him not to go through with it because they're capable of anything. He's still considering it as he waits for a hearing to be decided."

Here's Somaia telling how Peter Greste has been teaching Ibrahim to cook. "In his letters he sent us, he told us how Peter taught him to cook as before he

An interesting quote from Somaia " We're on bail so we cannot visit Egypt, so if he's sentenced to however many years, we will not obviously be able to see him."

Really ? Of course you can visit Egypt. What you really mean is that you have jumped bail and absconded.

One of them, I can't remember which, and I don't care, was on Facebook and in the Irish Media going on about a chap that had been executed. He had been carrying an large Isis flag in his back pocket and murdered somebody. This is what we are dealing with here.

I think the sisters have quite low IQs but are being indulged because they wear headscarfs.

Anybody else would be taken to task for the nonsense they spout.

ohnonotgmail

DarkyHughes wrote: »

So he's going to be executed for a riot where may or may not have hurt anyone or was in destroying buildings.

If people got executed for rioting up North 10's of 1000's would be executed each summer.

He is not facing the death penalty so there will be no execution.

skooterblue2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

He is not facing the death penalty so there will be no execution.

....but they can hold him indefinitely........ He is not in the EU.

ihatemyfish

R P McMurphy wrote: »

While having dual Egyptian citizenship has caused issues for him now it certainly doesn't change the fact that he was born and raised here and is Irish. A lot of Irish people have dual citizenship and it certainly doesn't make them any less irish

Was he actually born here? In the media, the family claimed that they moved here in 1996 and that Ibrahim was born in 1995. Something doesn't add up.

emo72

ihatemyfish wrote: »

Was he actually born here? In the media, the family claimed that they moved here in 1996 and that Ibrahim was born in 1995. Something doesn't add up.

misinformation, conflicting statements, reporters not asking exact questions, just taking their word. its hard to get exact facts.

acb121

ihatemyfish wrote: »

Was he actually born here? In the media, the family claimed that they moved here in 1996 and that Ibrahim was born in 1995. Something doesn't add up.

Except " the family " did not move here.

At least one sister, possibly two, remained in Eygpt.

It's likely there could have been a lot of travel.

Pops is the main emigree ... presumably as he would have been banged up in Egypt. I'm just speculating here, but the likely scenario is Pops claimed asylum, then Ibrahim was the happy news that the family would have PIBC passports, sorry, a lovely new baby brother.

Not one Irish newspaper will ask the questions.

They just report the hysterical shrieks of the lying sisters as "Fact".

ohnonotgmail

skooterblue2 wrote: »

....but they can hold him indefinitely........ He is not in the EU.

he is an egyptian citizen facing an egyptian court. they can do what they like with him.

Cue tedious "but he is Irish" posts.

He may hold an irish passport but for the purposes of his current circumstances he is egyptian. As an egyptian citizen in Egypt his irish passport is irrelevant.

ohnonotgmail

emo72 wrote: »

misinformation, conflicting statements, reporters not asking exact questions, just taking their word. its hard to get exact facts.

it is hard to get any facts. That would involve the press asking hard questions.

walshyn93

skooterblue2 wrote: »

....but they can hold him indefinitely........ He is not in the EU.

Egypt is doing what it can to put down a violent revolt by Islamist extremists. If the Muslim Brotherhood ever tried to stage a coup in Ireland I would hope that the Irish government would take extreme measures to put down the rebellion. Feck the EU.

acb121

walshyn93 wrote: »

Egypt is doing what it can to put down a violent revolt by Islamist extremists. If the Muslim Brotherhood ever tried to stage a coup in Ireland I would hope that the Irish government would take extreme measures to put down the rebellion.

They won't. Ireland is too busy importing the insane British left point of view.

I live in the UK.

A country busy building its own funeral pyre.

Where Moazzam Begg, a man with a very dubious past, some very dubious freinds, and a knack for unfortunately going on holiday to places that erupt in Islamic terrorism is feted by the BBC and Guardian as some sort of Nelson Mandela.

Where Moazzam Beggs charity CAGE, who assist those unfortunate young " British Muslims " with same holiday habits as Begg, including one sick b@stard who loves cake and cutting heads off, is feted and funded.

Where every charity worker like Shaker Aamer and computer course student has the loonie left campaigning to bring them "home" and then give them a nice fat compensation cheque.

Where grown adults who make an informed choice to travel to Isis territory to support their activities are painted as "victims", and it is all the fault of a nasty big boy on the internet who radicalised them then ran away.

British Jihadis know they can play Britain like a fiddle.

I cannot wait till Russia put boots on the ground and send in the Spetznaz.

Plenty of scum with British Passport in Syria. I hope Russia parade a few before putting a bullet in their heads.

I'll laugh as the Guardian and BBC whine about their human rites.

The Guardian and BBC would bring them home to continue their jihad here.

Thank God for Putin !