Irish Teen Fears Execution in Egypt

RichardCeann

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

i said "you'd swear you are "mostly" calling for his execution" meaning i get the impression that's what you wish for.

A lot of mind readers and clairvoyants on this forum. Nobody called for, or came close to calling for, his execution.

Anyway, Kenny has already stated that he is not facing the DP.

foggy_lad

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

the hate in here is unreal...you'd swear you are (mostly) calling for his execution

A bloody good flogging or birching would do!

I see he has been visited yet again in his new Egyptian home(prison), is there any lengths our government will not stoop to for this facist crim degenerate?

Means Of Escape

K.Flyer wrote: »

And probably told Never to set foot in Egypt again, followed by a swift kick in the hole.

To then appear on Ireland am for a chat the next morning
A new TV show in the autumn "Egyptian Food for Ireland "
A career at the Herald as the papers Egypt correspondent.
The grand Marshall for Paddys day 2016
A secretary appointee to colm o Gorman Amnesty International


Future is bright
Only in Ireland

RichardCeann

Is it normal for TDs to visit imprisoned Irish citizens abroad?

JAILED IRISH TEENAGER Ibrahim Halawa has been visited in an Egyptian prison by the chair of the Oireachtas Foreign Affairs Committee.

The 19-year-old from Tallaght has been held for some 23 months at various prisons in Cairo over his participation in a demonstration at a mosque at the height of the country’s political instability.

Today, Pat Breen visited the Wadi Al-Natrun prison in Cairo for a 90 minute meeting with Halawa.

Deputy Breen said that he found Ibrahim in “reasonable spirits”, despite the serious challenges of his detention over the past two years.

“I found him a young man in reasonable spirits in what are very trying circumstances. On behalf of the committee, I relayed our ongoing interest in his case and the concerns of his family in relation to his health and well-being and that I would bring these concerns to the relevant authorities. Ibrahim was appreciative of my presence and thanked the committee for its ongoing interest in his case.

“I expressed the committee’s continued support to him to ensure his speedy release.”

http://www.thejournal.ie/ibrahim-halawa-egypt-prison-visit-2281553-Aug2015/

Should a TD be interfering in a foreign country's legal process and calling for a prisoners release before the justice system has run its course?

smurfjed

Should a TD be interfering in a foreign country's legal process and calling for a prisoners release before the justice system has run its course?

No....

But they could ask for the process to be hurried up a bit!

K.Flyer

No mention of Torture, Physical or Mental Abuse, Health (heart) concerns, Beatings etc etc etc.
You would think that if these stories put out by his sisters were true then the head of the committee would have highlighted them to the press to raise the awareness of his plight.
But no, nothing, I wonder why :rolleyes:

Means Of Escape

K.Flyer wrote: »

No mention of Torture, Physical or Mental Abuse, Health (heart) concerns, Beatings etc etc etc.
You would think that if these stories put out by his sisters were true then the head of the committee would have highlighted them to the press to raise the awareness of his plight.
But no, nothing, I wonder why :rolleyes:

For it is all fanciful poppycock

RichardCeann

K.Flyer wrote: »

No mention of Torture, Physical or Mental Abuse, Health (heart) concerns, Beatings etc etc etc.
You would think that if these stories put out by his sisters were true then the head of the committee would have highlighted them to the press to raise the awareness of his plight.
But no, nothing, I wonder why :rolleyes:

Don't forget the untreated gunshot wound in his hand and the fact that he was supposedly on hunger strike for months. He is indestructible!

DeadHand

RichardCeann wrote: »

Interesting article. Perhaps it could go some way as to explain why O'Gorman, of AI and an avid gay rights activist, is campaigning so vigorously for the young Irish holidaymakers release from prison.



Full article here: https://www.rt.com/uk/312630-amnesty-international-muslim-brotherhood/

So it seems Amnesty is under the influence of Islamists.

No wonder turkeys like O'Gorman are coming out in favour of Christmas.

skooterblue2

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/kerry-mosque-decision-delayed-while-call-to-prayer-plan-clarified-1.2277767

Anyone going to the opening of the Tralee Mosque?

custard gannet

RichardCeann wrote: »

A lot of mind readers and clairvoyants on this forum. Nobody called for, or came close to calling for, his execution.

Only an Irish government could have one minister claiming they would look into stripping the citizenship of people who fought abroad with ISIS whilst simultaneously trying to secure the release of some scrote caught bang to rights in the middle of an Islamist riot.

RichardCeann

When is his next court case due to be postponed?

K.Flyer

skooterblue2 wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/kerry-mosque-decision-delayed-while-call-to-prayer-plan-clarified-1.2277767

Interestingly the ICCI in Clonskeagh Has a call to prayer system, but it is not audible outside of the main building itself.
Inside the building there is a P.A. system with speakers throughout the buildings and for those outside, they can avail of a radio transmission which can be picked up on a special receiver in the home.

darkpagandeath

Good luck getting that through with the early morning call, Insta complaints from people in the area. I highly doubt their Religious tolerance will stretch to stupid o'clock morning call. And call to prayer is what 5 times a day ? And a radio broadcast would that have a licence or be Pirate station ?

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MOD

Please don't try to post links to people's personal Facebook pages.

darkpagandeath

FB is personal ?

KERSPLAT!

darkpagandeath wrote: »

FB is personal ?

It's someone's personal page as opposed to a commercial or group page.

If you have an issue with a mod post in future don't take the thread off topic, PM a mod.

K.Flyer

So 100 Egyptian prisoners have been pardoned and released, including the Al Jazeera journalists, but no news about Ibrahim Halawa being released.

Irish Times
Egypt Pardons 100 Prisoners

Egypt’s president Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi has pardoned 100 prisoners, including al-Jazeera journalists Mohamed Fahmy and Baher Mohamed and prominent activists jailed for violating the ban on unlicensed protests.


The pardons, also covering very young, elderly and ailing prisoners, were, in accordance with tradition, issued on the eve of the Muslim feast at the end of the Hajj, the annual pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina, and coincide with Mr Sisi’s appearance at the 70th United Nations General Assembly.

Means Of Escape

K.Flyer wrote: »

So 100 Egyptian prisoners have been pardoned and released, including the Al Jazeera journalists, but no news about Ibrahim Halawa being released.

Irish Times
Egypt Pardons 100 Prisoners

Not on the list as a young and ailing prisoner.
Must be in deeper than we know

smurfjed

PARIS: Egypt agreed Wednesday to buy two Mistral warships which France built for Russia before scrapping the sale over the Ukraine crisis, showing Paris increasingly values Cairo as a stable partner in a chaotic region.
The deal is the second big military contract this year between France and Egypt, although the financial details of the sale were not divulged.
President Francois Hollande and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi “have agreed on the principle and terms and conditions of Egypt’s acquisition of the two Mistral-class vessels,” the French presidency said.
The two warships, which can each carry 16 helicopters, four landing craft and 13 tanks, were ordered by Russia in 2011 in a 1.2-billion-euro ($1.3-billion) deal.

The previous deal was for Rafael fighter jets valued at 5 billion euro. With deals of this magnitude going on, do you think that Ireland will get any support if they call for an economic embargo against Egypt?

darkpagandeath

smurfjed wrote: »

The previous deal was for Rafael fighter jets valued at 5 billion euro. With deals of this magnitude going on, do you think that Ireland will get any support if they call for an economic embargo against Egypt?

Why would be Embargo Egypt dealing with it's citizens ?

KingBrian2

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Why would be Embargo Egypt dealing with it's citizens ?

We don't have a good record trading with Arab countries. We sell them weapons instead of items of substance.

K.Flyer

KingBrian2 wrote: »

We don't have a good record trading with Arab countries. We sell them weapons instead of items of substance.

What weapons do we produce to sell to Arab nations?


A brief breakdown of the value of our exports to Arab nations...


Arab -Irish Chamber of Commerce

July 27th 2015

Irish merchandise exports to the Arab countries surged by 29% to €2.2bn in the twelve months to end May 2015. This represented an overall increase of €491m.

The biggest growth markets were:

Saudi Arabia - up by €274m (43%)
UAE - up by €83m (27%)
Egypt - up by €76m (52%)
Kuwait - up by €44m (68%)

The biggest growth sectors were:

Medical/Pharmaceutical - up by €202m (80%)
Essential oils, flavourings etc - up by €194m (36%)
Agri/Food - up by €57m (15%)
Data processing equipment - up by €57m (37%)

KingBrian2

K.Flyer wrote: »

What weapons do we produce to sell to Arab nations?


A brief breakdown of the value of our exports to Arab nations...


Arab -Irish Chamber of Commerce

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-11/europe-stands-up-to-saudi-arabia

Were part of the EU which trades extensively with vile rulers. Ireland does not sell weapons because we don't make weapons that can be sold but we are culpable by refusing to demand sanctions be placed on Saudi Arabia for funding Jihadi organisations.

K.Flyer

What's Saudi Arabia got to do with Egypt and the Halawa case?

KingBrian2

K.Flyer wrote: »

What's Saudi Arabia got to do with Egypt and the Halawa case?

Everything to do with it. We have double standards here. Halawa was participating in civil unrest against the Egyptian gvt. Saudi Arabia is the largest contributor to global jihad in the world. When Bahrain staged an uprising tanks were sent in to crush hospital workers looking for human rights. The gvt of Egypt is being accused of massacring civilians while the promoter of said terrorism is next door. Why must we look the other way when violation of human rights is being committed in Saudi Arabia and other Islamic states?

ohnonotgmail

KingBrian2 wrote: »

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-11/europe-stands-up-to-saudi-arabia

Were part of the EU which trades extensively with vile rulers. Ireland does not sell weapons because we don't make weapons that can be sold but we are culpable by refusing to demand sanctions be placed on Saudi Arabia for funding Jihadi organisations.

So we dont sell them weapons then. I'm glad we cleared up that piece of misinformation.

KingBrian2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

So we dont sell them weapons then. I'm glad we cleared up that piece of misinformation.

Were part of a union that does. We sit in summits with other European countries, Germans, French, British and the like that have business relations with them. We can hardly say we fully reject political Islam when our friends and partners are making deals with them to sell them guns that will go to unnamed militias.

ohnonotgmail

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Were part of a union that does. We sit in summits with other European countries, Germans, French, British and the like that have business relations with them. We can hardly say we fully reject political Islam when our friends and partners are making deals with them to sell them guns that will go to unnamed militias.

why not toddle off and start a thread about how our terrible trade partners are selling weapons to those terrible arabs and let this thread stay on topic.

KingBrian2

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why not toddle off and start a thread about how our terrible trade partners are selling weapons to those terrible arabs and let this thread stay on topic.

Halawa was in the Muslim Brotherhood, a prescribed terrorist organisation. His detention in a Cairo prison relates to his attempt to cause civil uprising. Now human rights groups want him released because they feel he is being treated unjustifiable harsh by the Egyptian authorities, this may very well be true and he should probable be released because human rights is not ideal in a prison in an Islamic country. This does not take away from the fact that he was working with terrorists, he was involved in terrorism and that the Egyptian gvt should arrest anyone who is involved in acts of terrorism.