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Irish Teen Fears Execution in Egypt

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    #602
    Jester252
    Registered Users Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    end of the road wrote: »
    we should do everything for an irish born irish citizen.

    We gave him a free ticket to Ireland, he turn it down. What more can we do?

    Do you want us to invade Egypt to drag his dumb a$$ back?


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    #603
    Grand Moff Tarkin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Grand Moff Tarkin


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Tbh, I think we'd all be a lot better if didn't build mosques, or churches or temples or synagogues and just got past the concept of superstition religion.

    But, yes, this thread was wandered away from its topic.

    Most educated civilised people know that mosques churches temples or synagogues are places full of weak minded people looking for that missing thing in their lives and it makes it a perfect breeding ground for all sorts of illegal and illicit activities be it the prists and their perversions with little boys to hate filled preachers filling the minds of silly young men with religious nonsense.


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    #604
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Morally, maybe he lost that right when he went from an innocent tourist to a political agitator charged with murder.

    he didn't lose that right, that right can't be lost

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #605
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,126 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    that right can't be lost
    It's hard to know if that right existed in the first place, but why don't you think that it can be lost? Surely as the holder of an Irish passport, i have a personal responsibility not to get myself into that sort of situation?


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    #606
    Grand Moff Tarkin
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    end of the road wrote: »
    he didn't lose that right, that right can't be lost

    You are not big on personal responsibility are you?


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    #607
    mr67stag
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭mr67stag


    Again can someone answer the simple question ,what THF was he doing there?
    Or is it better to ignore this very simple question ,it was a tinder box
    in midst of revolution.
    Many people coming to this country seeking refuse are fleeing from such situations.
    So again please answer WHF was he going there for , i suppose the comfort of having an Irish passport may have been a factor.
    Before you ask why, if this guy was seeking asylum here with the thought of not getting back here chances are we not be having this conversation.

    Let those responsible sort this out , as i said previously this goverment will sort this out as it ignores the wishes of the majority.
    If Gilmore was foriegn affairs minister he would have bent
    over with his trousers down but Mr Flannigan who is a good friend of Israel may feel slightly different .
    Again WHF was he doing there


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    #608
    Putinovsky
    Registered Users Posts: 368 ✭✭Putinovsky


    He arrived before the revolution even started. He had holidayed in Egypt every summer for the last 10 years.


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    #609
    bjork
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    mr67stag wrote: »
    Again can someone answer the simple question ,what THF was he doing there?
    Or is it better to ignore this very simple question ,it was a tinder box
    in midst of revolution.
    Many people coming to this country seeking refuse are fleeing from such situations.
    So again please answer WHF was he going there for , i suppose the comfort of having an Irish passport may have been a factor.
    Before you ask why, if this guy was seeking asylum here with the thought of not getting back here chances are we not be having this conversation.

    Let those responsible sort this out , as i said previously this goverment will sort this out as it ignores the wishes of the majority.
    If Gilmore was foriegn affairs minister he would have bent
    over with his trousers down but Mr Flannigan who is a good friend of Israel may feel slightly different .
    Again WHF was he doing there
    Making speeches






    The Irish-Egyptian siblings being held in Egypt may have been on the security forces’ watch list after they addressed hundreds of thousands of protesters several weeks ago.

    The three Halawa sisters and their brother, all from Dublin, spoke to the crowd at Rabaa Square in Cairo, which was a focal point for supporters of ousted Egypt president Mohamed Morsi before the crackdown on demonstrations began.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/halawa-siblings-address-protesters-240537.html


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    #610
    bjork
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    Putinovsky wrote: »
    He arrived before the revolution even started. He had holidayed in Egypt every summer for the last 10 years.

    Some holiday

    Speaking in succession for more than 10 minutes, they introduced themselves as being from Ireland, led the massive crowd in chants and received enthusiastic responses for their promise not to let the West forget the protesters.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/halawa-siblings-address-protesters-240537.html


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    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    mr67stag wrote: »
    Again can someone answer the simple question ,what THF was he doing there?
    Or is it better to ignore this very simple question ,it was a tinder box
    in midst of revolution.
    Many people coming to this country seeking refuse are fleeing from such situations.
    So again please answer WHF was he going there for , i suppose the comfort of having an Irish passport may have been a factor.
    Before you ask why, if this guy was seeking asylum here with the thought of not getting back here chances are we not be having this conversation.

    Let those responsible sort this out , as i said previously this goverment will sort this out as it ignores the wishes of the majority.
    If Gilmore was foriegn affairs minister he would have bent
    over with his trousers down but Mr Flannigan who is a good friend of Israel may feel slightly different .
    Again WHF was he doing there
    the government are helping him because he is an irish born irish citizen. if doing so is ignoring the wishes supposibly of the majority tough ****. i'm happy for the government to go against the supposed majority on this one. sometimes what the "majority" want isn't always the right or done thing, this case is one perfect example where the supposed majority should have their wishes ignored and gone against to help a fellow irish citizen.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #612
    end of the road
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    bjork wrote: »
    Some holiday

    Speaking in succession for more than 10 minutes, they introduced themselves as being from Ireland, led the massive crowd in chants and received enthusiastic responses for their promise not to let the West forget the protesters.

    well, the west shouldn't forget those brootley slaughtered by an illegitimate military junta

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #613
    Beano
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    end of the road wrote: »
    the government are helping him because he is an irish born irish citizen. if doing so is ignoring the wishes supposibly of the majority tough ****. i'm happy for the government to go against the supposed majority on this one. sometimes what the "majority" want isn't always the right or done thing, this case is one perfect example where the supposed majority should have their wishes ignored and gone against to help a fellow irish citizen.

    they did help him. or they tried to help him and he turned them down.


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    #614
    Grand Moff Tarkin
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    end of the road wrote: »
    well, the west shouldn't forget those brootley slaughtered by an illegitimate military junta

    If you feel so strongly about it why not go over and take up arms against this supposed illegitimate military junta.


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    #615
    mr67stag
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭mr67stag


    Ask again WHF was he doing there.........dont think going on HOLIDAY in the midst of a revolution would be a sane persons idea of a HOLIDAY least of all a teenager.
    It hardly club 18 - 25 what most young guys like to do.
    I do seem to remember a travel warning regarding Egypt being place , please correct me if this is not the case.
    I visited Yugoslavia (as it was formely known) prior to the war there, but kind of thought it would be dangerous during that terrible time of the war that broke.

    Sorry to ask again WHF was he doing there ??????


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    #616
    bjork
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    mr67stag wrote: »
    Ask again WHF was he doing there.........dont think going on HOLIDAY in the midst of a revolution would be a sane persons idea of a HOLIDAY least of all a teenager.
    It hardly club 18 - 25 what most young guys like to do.
    I do seem to remember a travel warning regarding Egypt being place , please correct me if this is not the case.
    I visited Yugoslavia (as it was formely known) prior to the war there, but kind of thought it would be dangerous during that terrible time of the war that broke.

    Sorry to ask again WHF was he doing there ??????

    I thought I answered this already >> They were leading rallies and giving speeches>> Links above


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    #617
    skooterblue2
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    I wonder if poor Hisham is cooking the turkey for the dinner tomorrow?


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    #618
    skooterblue2
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/ibrahim-halawa-future-unclear-despite-government-engagement-with-egypt-1.2052494

    Looks like young Afelke is going to get a retrial.
    I can see the Judge saying Same as what he said. No new evidence just a lot of chatter.


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    #619
    Jester252
    Registered Users Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    The Irish consulate already went beyond what they needed to do and got him a free trip home, which he turned down. He is an Egyptian citizen, Ireland has no reason to be helping him but are helping out of kindness, yet people are complaining we aren't doing enough?


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    #620
    skooterblue2
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    It would be unfair to move him at this stage. I mean he has just had a big auld feed of Turkey and ham and He has finished watching Raiders of the lost Ark. Maybe he could top up on his tan before coming home. Egyot .... so many offers down at the Souk


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    #621
    conorhal
    Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Jester252 wrote: »
    The Irish consulate already went beyond what they needed to do and got him a free trip home, which he turned down. He is an Egyptian citizen, Ireland has no reason to be helping him but are helping out of kindness, yet people are complaining we aren't doing enough?

    Jaysus, It's hard to believe people are still whittering on about this waste of space while the likes of Faris Heeney, an Irish citizen abducted from this country in 2009 and held in Egypt since, gets not a single mention:
    http://www.thejournal.ie/faris-heeney-1159221-Nov2013/
    What are the government doing to secure his return?


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    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    conorhal wrote: »
    Jaysus, It's hard to beleve people are still whittering about this wase of space but the likes of Faris Heeney, a citizen abducted from this country in 2009 gets not a mention:
    http://www.thejournal.ie/faris-heeney-1159221-Nov2013/

    Well said. Leave him, he made his own bed, let him sleep in it now.


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    #623
    SeanW
    Registered Users Posts: 8,818 ✭✭✭SeanW


    You'll have to forgive EOTR, after all he/she is a leftist, that seems to mean he only cares about thugs (like Michael Brown), traitors (like this Islamist jackass) and rapists.

    Responsible people, victims of crime etc. don't figure too highly in the leftist conscience. Only criminals, parasites, robbers, rapists, Islamists and suchlike scum.


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    #624
    skooterblue2
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    You did notice how when the sisters got released they scampered?

    Hostile Country, New Military regieme keen to act against counter revolutionarys? Poor sanitary conditions and health care. The boy decides to stay despite the offer of the Irish Ambassador? I reckon the (older) sisters decided to dump their dim witted brother by telling him this would make a man of him, something to put on the CV. "Allah will friend you on Facebook". What kind of family would give that advice?

    The Cariro Hilton isnt Castlereagh. Castlereagh you get a TV (both BBC NI and RTE), meals, pick up on that degree you missed out on .....and hang out with all the guys.. oh wait that is the YMCA. So easily confused. Nah its not looking great for Tashbeck. Could have been home for Christmas with a hot Cider and silly christmas jumper from Pennys. Cant see him opening a travel agency specialising in Sun holidays when he gets back though.


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    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Jester252 wrote: »
    The Irish consulate already went beyond what they needed to do and got him a free trip home, which he turned down. He is an Egyptian citizen, Ireland has no reason to be helping him but are helping out of kindness, yet people are complaining we aren't doing enough?
    he's an irish citizen, so moraly the irish government are right to be helping him. i don't care whether they legally are obliged or not, its what i expect a government to try do for their citizens

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    end of the road
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    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    Well said. Leave him, he made his own bed, let him sleep in it now.
    not at all. he's an irish citizen

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #627
    Jawgap
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    end of the road wrote: »
    he's an irish citizen, so moraly the irish government are right to be helping him. i don't care whether they legally are obliged or not, its what i expect a government to try do for their citizens

    Me too - because there's no citizens in the country who could do with a bit of help from their government :rolleyes:


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    Odyssey 2005
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    end of the road wrote: »
    not at all. he's an irish citizen

    What are you smoking?.
    I'm unsure if your delusional,drunk,high or just plain silly. He deserves to stay where he is. Like I said he made his bed. Why we are even bothering with him is beyond me.








    Oh yea...he's an Irish citizen..right.:rolleyes:

    42 pages wasted on this guy!


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    #629
    Grand Moff Tarkin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Grand Moff Tarkin


    end of the road wrote: »
    not at all. he's an irish citizen

    You are not big on personal responsibility are you?

    For the last time he made his bed and he is certainly not worth causing an international incident.


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    #630
    Grand Moff Tarkin
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    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    What are you smoking?.
    I'm unsure if your delusional,drunk,high or just plain silly. He deserves to stay where he is. Like I said he made his bed. Why we are even bothering with him is beyond me.








    Oh yea...he's an Irish citizen..right.:rolleyes:

    42 pages wasted on this guy!
    No he has an Irish passport. If he is an Irish citizen or not is up for debate.


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    Odyssey 2005
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    Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »
    You are not big on personal responsibility are you?

    For the last time he made his bed and he is certainly not worth causing an international incident.

    Why are his family not over there pleading his case?. He gave up the rights of his Irish Passport long ago.


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