Bayern Munich vs Manchester United Match Thread 9/4/14 k/o 19.45 RTE2/Sky

LuckyLloyd

super_furry wrote: »

They were easy to play against. If Chelsea get them in the draw, they'll beat them. Mourinho's Chelsea have the discipline and expertise to do what Moyes attempted to do over the two legs successfully and it will be a dreadful, dreadful tie.

Guardiolaball has always been susceptible to Utd's approach over this tie. Chelsea simply executed better two year's ago. Moyes and Utd got this spot on I must admit. They just couldn't finish the job.

dahat

dahat wrote: »

11/4 Evra anytime booking,printing money IMO...

As I thought,only highlight really.

Timmyctc

rob316 wrote: »

The world class rooney was great again.

Turtyturd wrote: »

Better effort from United than most expected. If they had a World class player up front to put away those two big chances it could have been a different story, although Bayern always looked like they had a few gears to step up if they needed to.

Must. Try. Harder

LuckyGent88

Such a disappointing reult for us after taking the lead in the tie.
We lost our concentration after scoring and we finally woke bayern up.
We performed admirably over the two legs but the class of bayern came through in the end.
Hopefully this is the end of evra at left back. Once again he was hopeless in defence and was involved in all 3 goals we conceded.

That_Guy

Dunphy: DeGea is ok when he's in goal.

Eh?

statto25

That_Guy wrote: »

Then why play him? If he's there, he's there. Thought 90 minutes for him was a bit much though in fairness to him.

I'm just second guessing Moyes but I suppose there was more of a chance of a brief moment of brilliance from Rooney than Hernandez especially given the way United were set out. It nearly worked with that chance in the second half but I don't believe the injury had anything to do with him missing. It was a poor attempt at a golden chance. I have to agree that 90 mins was too much especially given the fact he needed an injection to play at all.

Turtyturd

Timmyctc wrote: »

Must. Try. Harder

You think he is world class?

rob316

Where does dunphy come up with the financial figures.

efb

rob316 wrote: »

Where does dunphy come up with the financial figures.

Same place as an Anglo Exec

shamrock55

Well thats the last time we will see utd in the cl for the foreseable:D

nullzero

rob316 wrote: »

Where does dunphy come up with the financial figures.

His imagination just like everything else he says baby.

MayoSalmon

Timmyctc wrote: »

Must. Try. Harder

You mad bro?:D

Nuri Sahin

Only just seeing the goals now. What in the **** Evra o_0

thelad95

I think what this has shown is bayern are not as good as some make them out to be. If you look at it, the result against Barca was incredible but aside from that they stuttered through to the final. Beaten by BATE borisov in the group stages and clung on against Arsenal at home in the same manner as they did tonight for the first hour. Dominant but not ruthless.

Incredible side? Yes.
One of the best club sides in the world? Yes
But invincible/unbeatable? No way.

All set up for a Madrid derby in the final now.

That_Guy

rob316 wrote: »

Where does dunphy come up with the financial figures.

He writes for a tabloid. He pulls them out of his arse.

K4t

nullzero wrote: »

Truth is united fell asleep after scoring. Had that not happened it would have been a different game. Evra has to be done at United now.

Reminded me of the 2nd leg against Real last season and Nani's red card. As soon as Utd conceded so quickly after the elation and relief of and excitement of Evra's goal it completely sucked the energy out of the team. Similar to Nani's red card against Real, this Utd team has always been mentally suspect and the whole team looked deflated and never recovered.

Utd had 2 great chances which Rooney squandered, Bayern took their 2 clear cut chances (Mandukic&Muller) and got a small bit of deserved luck with Robben's deflection.

Gotta take your chances at this level.

madcabbage

Shame about the result, they gave it a right go against probably the best team in Europe for the next few seasons! That goal by Evra though! :cool:

John Cherry

We are out but Evra has scored United's best ever European goals.

nullzero

John Cherry wrote: »

We are out but Evra has scored United's best ever European goals.

Whilst giving one of uniteds worst ever defensive performances.

niallo27

Chris is talking to a disappointed peter smalling.

John Cherry

nullzero wrote: »

Whilst giving one of uniteds worst ever defensive performances.

That's was the two faces of Evra.

Boskowski

Very happy with that. It could have taken a wrong turn somewhere for sure, but in the end the better team got through.
I'd be the first to agree with people who are unimpressed with Bayern. They look more static, more predictable than last year and they're not showing top form either. Not sure that will be enough to win this competition.

Madrid in the draw on Friday would be nice now.

Demosthenese

Little boring, predictable perhaps. Evra wonder goal placed a cat amongst the pidgeons but class told in the end. Cannot give the ball away for 70% of the game and expect to win.

when you park the bus and win it is a great thing, when you park it and lose playing like that ... its plain awful stuff.

efb

Man gets hit by football
http://twitpic.com/e0qyl7/full

NukaCola

4-2 over the two legs is no disgrace. Utd played well and tactically set up to stop Bayern that almost worked. It was always going to be difficult against this Bayern side.

The Narrator

NukaCola wrote: »

4-2 over the two legs is no disgrace. Utd played well and tactically set up to stop Bayern that almost worked. It was always going to be difficult against this Bayern side.

At 1-1 tonight you could see which way it was going to go. The whole game was spent with Bayern making Utd work,
wearing them down, it's what Guardiola's teams do.

There's no shame in losing to Bayern, they are European champions and the best club team in the world at the minute.
If Rooney was properly fit Utd had an outside chance. Bayern were just better.

Fudge You

Great result for football.

Liam O

Boskowski wrote: »

Very happy with that. It could have taken a wrong turn somewhere for sure, but in the end the better team got through.
I'd be the first to agree with people who are unimpressed with Bayern. They look more static, more predictable than last year and they're not showing top form either. Not sure that will be enough to win this competition.

Madrid in the draw on Friday would be nice now.

Pep sides are always at their weakest at this stage of the season for some reason.

Maybe this time it's because of winning the league already and not being able to lift their game for the tougher tests but Barca comparatively struggled for a couple of years in the 2nd round/quarters.

Also Madrid would be the biggest test by far to Bayern, the only superpower team they've yet to play in the KOs the last 2 seasons.

Mr.Micro

Well done Bayern. Man utd had nothing but defence, whilst Bayern had defence and attack. There was no plan b.

MisterAnarchy

Liam O wrote: »

Also Madrid would be the biggest test by far to Bayern, the only superpower team they've yet to play in the KOs the last 2 seasons.

I'd fancy Madrid to do a job on Bayern,their pace on the break would pose serious problems for that Bayern defence which looks extremely suspect.

If you had the BBC up front for Utd in the last two legs ,they would easily have scored 4 or 5 goals with the chances Bayern gave up .

Big question is would Real try to engage Bayern in an open game or play on the break .

Fudge You

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

If you had the BBC up front for Utd in the last two legs ,they would easily have scored 4 or 5 goals with the chances Bayern gave up .

.

Who. What. When. Where. WHY?

Ahhhhh, we all know what you type into your search bar when youre on youj!zz. Have a good evening you crazy cat mr anarchy!!!!

Idbatterim

it will be bloody interesting if its Real v Bayern! bear in mind Bayern have a good few players to come back in... I would give chelsea a reasonable chance against them, reckon they would be far better at executing the pretty much one and only strategy 95+% plus of teams in europe have to against them. If they score early or the other team has to come out of their shell though, they are ruthless. Reckon Pep will have learned a few lessons from the tie...

MisterAnarchy

Fudge You wrote: »

Who. What. When. Where. WHY?

I meant this BBC ;Bale,Benzema,Cristiano .
I dont think the BBC you were thinking of would be of much use on a football pitch

Mickeroo

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I meant this BBC ;Bale,Benzema,Cristiano .
I dont think the BBC you were thinking of would be of much use on a football pitch

Genuinely thought you meant the MOTD crew.

Necronomicon

Liam O wrote: »

Also Madrid would be the biggest test by far to Bayern, the only superpower team they've yet to play in the KOs the last 2 seasons.

They beat Madrid on penalties on route to the final when Chelsea won, no?

citytillidie

The Evertonisation of Man Utd continues, watching the highlights of those two games just reminded me of Everton under Moyes when playing better teams, defend hard giving up the ball hoping to hit on the break or from a set piece

GavRedKing

Necronomicon wrote: »

They beat Madrid on penalties on route to the final when Chelsea won, no?

Yup, it looked like being the dream "Clasico" final but they beat real and we over turned Barca.

Both Bayern and Real have improved since then and if anyone knows how to beat Real its Pep, woudl be an interesting match up if it was drawn over 2 legs.

rob316

You can not expect to beat the big teams or win this tournament without a some way decent midfield which united do not have, the game completely bypassed Fletcher and Carrick last night. You can be a bit dodgy at the back or a bit blunt up front but you really need a decent CM.

Even the Liverpool team that won it in 05 had Gerrard,Alonso and Hamann who would walk into the current united midfield.

RasTa

citytillidie wrote: »

The Evertonisation of Man Utd continues, watching the highlights of those two games just reminded me of Everton under Moyes when playing better teams, defend hard giving up the ball hoping to hit on the break or from a set piece

Indeed, just playing Bayern so should have went all out attack over the both legs...

Cienciano

messinkiapina wrote: »

I'm with Dunphy, I thought Bayern were shyte over the 2 legs. Maybe it's just a temporary dip in form, but they looked so much better last year.

Reminds me of Dunphy saying Ronaldo is shíte because he missed a shot when he could have passed. And ignores the 40 goals he got that season.

Will I Amnt

citytillidie wrote: »

The Evertonisation of Man Utd continues, watching the highlights of those two games just reminded me of Everton under Moyes when playing better teams, defend hard giving up the ball hoping to hit on the break or from a set piece

Chelsea v Bayern, Fergie's United v Barca. Arsenal v Bayern. Chelsea v Barca. Jose's Inter v Barca.

Just a few other comparisons you could have chosen from.
But no, lowest common denominator stuff obviously works better for you.

citytillidie

When did Moyes manage Chelsea, Barca, Arsenal or Inter?

citytillidie

citytillidie wrote: »

The Evertonisation of Man Utd continues, watching the highlights of those two games just reminded me of Everton under Moyes when playing better teams, defend hard giving up the ball hoping to hit on the break or from a set piece

Here,

have a look at last seasons champions league performances.

Do the math and the comparisons to this seasons performance and honestly tell me which one was better.

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2013/clubs/club=52682/matches/index.html

Mr.Micro

citytillidie wrote: »

The Evertonisation of Man Utd continues, watching the highlights of those two games just reminded me of Everton under Moyes when playing better teams, defend hard giving up the ball hoping to hit on the break or from a set piece

Was there another way tbh, to try to beat Bayern? As soon as man utd relaxed that defence, Bayern were in. Open play would have resulted in 10 nil to Bayern.

Will I Amnt

citytillidie wrote: »

When did Moyes manage Chelsea, Barca, Arsenal or Inter?

I never said he did

You are saying he's turning United into Everton, there's an argument there alright. You used last nights game as an example, that's beyond stupid.

Idbatterim

Was there another way tbh, to try to beat Bayern? As soon as man utd relaxed that defence, Bayern were in. Open play would have resulted in 10 nil to Bayern.

yeah, as soon as they scored I said to my brother here we go, I expected a quick response, not that quick however. I mean you cant not try to score until the 75-80th minute, but the match was just constipated for want of a better word. Will be interesting to see if Real play bayern, would it be in their DNA to not play attacking football? If they do, will it be evenly matched or will bayern stuff them? I dont think they are playing the blitzkrieg, ruthless football under Pep that they did under the previous manager.

munchkin_utd

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Was there another way tbh, to try to beat Bayern? As soon as man utd relaxed that defence, Bayern were in. Open play would have resulted in 10 nil to Bayern.

+1
remember Barcelona last year, 2nd leg at home and all??
Barcelona 0 - 3 Bayern Munich (agg 0 - 7)

Demosthenese

Idbatterim wrote: »

yeah, as soon as they scored I said to my brother here we go, I expected a quick response, not that quick however. I mean you cant not try to score until the 75-80th minute, but the match was just constipated for want of a better word. Will be interesting to see if Real play bayern, would it be in their DNA to not play attacking football? If they do, will it be evenly matched or will bayern stuff them? I dont think they are playing the blitzkrieg, ruthless football under Pep that they did under the previous manager.

It'd be a goalfest. No point Real playing a defencive type of game, they do not even know the word and do not have the personnel frankly. It'd be a decent game cos both teams are vulnerable to good attacking play and good in possession. A proper game of ball, not what we witnessed last night which was a close 1 sided massacre

Idbatterim

Idbatterim wrote: »

yeah, as soon as they scored I said to my brother here we go, I expected a quick response, not that quick however. I mean you cant not try to score until the 75-80th minute, but the match was just constipated for want of a better word. Will be interesting to see if Real play bayern, would it be in their DNA to not play attacking football? If they do, will it be evenly matched or will bayern stuff them? I dont think they are playing the blitzkrieg, ruthless football under Pep that they did under the previous manager.

If given the space which Real Madrid will provide with there emphasis on attack then it will be a much more open affair between both teams.

Real Madrid can afford to attack more openly there squad is clearly stronger than ours in midfield.

Idbatterim

will CR7 be back for Madrid? With him back I feel it would be a lot more of an even contest...