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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Unpopular opinion: I think many members of the gaming community are too hung up on what other people are playing, and don't put enough effort into celebrating just how wonderful gaming is in 2014 :)

    Every time I see pining for some golden age, or dismissal of the current 'state of gaming', I can't help but personally find relief in the fact that we have never had it as good. Sure, a lot of mass market, commercially successful games and genres are stagnant and conservative, but the variety this medium has to offer is staggering. We play games in a time where games like The Stanley Parable, Minecraft or Super Meat Boy can make their creators millionaires in no time at all (albeit with countless hours of hard work to get there, as is the way with any successful creative endeavour). We play games in a time where almost every niche genre audience is well served. We play in a time when digital distribution has opened up huge new markets, and encouraged the emergence of extraordinary creativity on everything from mobile phones to monster PCs.

    Every medium has its dominant mass market, commercial side (cinema's possibly even worse in that regard, as is literature) - no-one can change that. But gaming has never offered richer alternatives or more variety. IMO the only sad thing about people only playing one or two titles every year is that they're denying themselves the countless examples of gaming brilliance out there. It would of course be nice if all our individual favourite games and genres were massive commercial successes, but looking at the breadth of games on offer at the moment I see nothing but cause for the greatest optimism about gaming's present and future.

    Not so much unpopular as trite. People lament genres and sub-genres and what's happened to them. We're long, long past the heyday of RTS game, if you want to play a modern base building RTS you're fairly stuck with Starcraft and Company of Heroes, the genre has moved to newer models and hybrids (and more than one developer has declared the genre dead for traditional games outside of the two main IPs). Other genres have dwindled down to being very niche and mainly consisting again of a few dominant IPs in the mainstream and some very specialised and often underfunded/under threat games from small developers.

    Are things better overall? Sure, games have never looked this good, the online play over dial-up is hardly comparable to today with broadband. Kickstarter has allowed the resurgance of some old "non-commercially viable" sub-genres, like isometric RPGs and point and click adventures. The tide of making everything mass-market seems to be receding as publishers realise that chasing the next CoD is just burning money. But have gamers grounds to bitch about what's been lost and a lack of variety setting in after a working formula is found by a handful of IPs? Of course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,218 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    I hate JRPGs and turn based RPGs. I also hate MMOs like Dota 2.

    I think Arma 3 is more fun than BF4.

    I think modern RPGs have been dumbed down too much to cater to inferior (younger) audiences playing on consoles and this annoys me.

    I hate platformer style games. Obviously Mario and Donkey Kong etc were great back in the day but that style of game is totally out dated now and needs to be put to rest.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    M!Ck^ wrote: »
    eh Tekken 3 anyone?

    In terms of 3D fighters nothing comes close to Virtua Fighter. Only probably is it's tough to learn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,046 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    MadYaker wrote: »
    I hate platformer style games. Obviously Mario and Donkey Kong etc were great back in the day but that style of game is totally out dated now and needs to be put to rest.

    I have to disagree with you on that one. I think we need more platformers. I haven't enjoyed a platformer since New Super Mario Brothers Wii. I should note that i don't have a DS or a Wii/U, but there hasn't been anything available for me for a good while. Everyone is raving about the latest Rayman, but it's just not doing it for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 770 ✭✭✭abbir


    nesf wrote: »
    Not so much unpopular as trite. People lament genres and sub-genres and what's happened to them. We're long, long past the heyday of RTS game, if you want to play a modern base building RTS you're fairly stuck with Starcraft and Company of Heroes, the genre has moved to newer models and hybrids (and more than one developer has declared the genre dead for traditional games outside of the two main IPs). Other genres have dwindled down to being very niche and mainly consisting again of a few dominant IPs in the mainstream and some very specialised and often underfunded/under threat games from small developers.

    I want a proper new Command and Conquer game.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    MadYaker wrote: »
    I hate JRPGs and turn based RPGs. I also hate MMOs like Dota 2.

    I think Arma 3 is more fun than BF4.

    I think modern RPGs have been dumbed down too much to cater to inferior (younger) audiences playing on consoles and this annoys me.

    I hate platformer style games. Obviously Mario and Donkey Kong etc were great back in the day but that style of game is totally out dated now and needs to be put to rest.

    Oh god MOBAS games. They are terrible imo. I used to be a big fan of any esports game just because they were esports. I wanted to support the idea more so than anything else. This meant Quake, Counter-Strike and Starcraft to me. But League of Legends and DotA? I cannot understand for the life of me how these games are so popular. I cannot even understand how they are enjoyable for the player. The top down strategy controls seems silly if you only controlling a single character.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Fnz


    MadYaker wrote: »
    I also hate MMOs like Dota 2.

    I think Arma 3 is more fun than BF4.

    Dota 2 is not a MMO, unless you're seriously stretching the generally-accepted meaning of the term. So, do you hate, both, MMOs (such as Planetside 2, Defiance, Guild Wars, etc.) and MOBAs (such as Smite, Monday Night Combat, Awesomenauts, Dota, etc.?

    Oh, and ARMA's control interface always feels like you are remote-controlling a drunk cow. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Fnz


    Grimebox wrote: »
    Oh god MOBAS games. They are terrible imo. I used to be a big fan of any esports game just because they were esports. I wanted to support the idea more so than anything else. This meant Quake, Counter-Strike and Starcraft to me. But League of Legends and DotA? I cannot understand for the life of me how these games are so popular. I cannot even understand how they are enjoyable for the player. The top down strategy controls seems silly if you only controlling a single character.

    Check out Smite if you like the idea of MOBAs but hate the control method of Dota/LoL.




  • Retr0gamer wrote: »
    In terms of 3D fighters nothing comes close to Virtua Fighter. Only probably is it's tough to learn.
    Don't agree;

    Teken is more fluid and has a much higher character count and I personally had much more fun with it the VF.

    Matter of choice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    toshinden bitches


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    I didn't really play that many fighter games but I put hours into Tekken 3.. used to love that game so much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Halo series - number one, most over rated franchise in a history of gaming.

    First party nintendo franchises ( specially Zelda and Mario) - number two and three most over rated franchises in history of gaming.

    Hardcore nintendo fanbase - the most smug group of gamers on a planet.
    Couldn't agree more, in fact, I had to double-check that I hadn't posted the above myself! :)

    Other unpopular opinions I have?

    Little Big Planet was graphically brilliant with a great engine but very poor as a game. Really, really hated it. Push this thing here, climb onto that and move that thing from A to B, via D and back to C...boring.

    GTA IV was the last GTA game I played. All the fun and madcap frenzy of the original top-down games has gone completely and been replaced with a game that takes itself far too seriously. Haven't bothered with GTA V.


  • Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Not G.R


    Capcom vs Snk on the Dreamcast <3


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Remouad


    We all know virtua fighter is the best fighter out there
    M!Ck^ wrote: »
    eh Tekken 3 anyone?

    Partially agree. Tekken Tag is better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Keno wrote: »
    I didn't like Half Life 2. I thought it was boring.

    I don't get the joke.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    M!Ck^ wrote: »
    Don't agree;

    Teken is more fluid and has a much higher character count and I personally had much more fun with it the VF.

    Matter of choice.

    A higher character count doesn't mean a better game. As for not being fluid, once you learn Virtua Fighter it's anything but not fluid.

    Granted VF has a very steep learning curve but it's more rewarding than Tekken. It's not for everyone because of the time investment needed, including myself, but I can look at it and admire just how well crafted it is while Tekken really only lasts the button mashing phase for me, once you start taking it seriously the game just gets ridiculous with all the different level levels and combinations of attack levels you have to learn and learn to defend against. It just stops being fun there for me. VF might be complex but it's very easy to learn and understand, Tekken is just ridiculous and even when you get good it's not as rewarding as VF.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Dacelonid


    A lot of what I have has been said before so maybe not that unpopular
    • Multiplayer is for the most part boring and ****
    • Halo was one of the worst FPS I have ever played
    • Bonderlands was boring
    • Mass Effect is terrible
    • Bioshock Infinite is not interesting to play
    • I liked Assassins Creed 1 more than AC2: Brotherhood
    • I like the future parts of Assassins Creed and want to see more of that in future (not happening unfortunately)
    • Deus-Ex is not all its cracked up to be. Much prefer DE:HR
    • Metro 2033was not that great
    • Heavy Rain was terrible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I don't think the heavy rain opinion is unpopular.
    the fact that David Cage is such a lazy story writer he decided to, among many other plot holes, make Shelby the killer, is baffling. Ruins the whole game, in fact, among other things again


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    Dacelonid wrote: »
    A lot of what I have has been said before so maybe not that unpopular
    • Deus-Ex is not all its cracked up to be. Much prefer DE:HR

    h08B6355C


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    My unpopular gaming opinions:

    FPS is the most turgid and boring genre by a country mile.

    Call of Duty is awful.

    Zombies are incredibly boring / infuriating in their prevalence.

    Racing sims (but not so much arcade) are boring.

    Splinter Cell has always been a terrible franchise.

    Online mulitplayer is mostly annoying.

    EA Sports games are uniformly terrible except maybe Fight Night.

    Metal Gear franchise isn't worth bothering with.

    Can't think of any more at the moment.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭tok9


    Not sure if it's an unpopular one but I remember the hate at the time regarding the game.

    I've only played Mass Effect 2 & 3 and 3 is easily a much better game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I wouldn't say Goldeneye was never good.

    I would however say that it's aged incredibly poorly and that it's near unplayable now.

    Actually I feel most of Rare's N64 output has aged incredibly bad with the exception of Banjo Kazooie and Blast Corp (which is an absolute classic).

    Conker's Bad Fur Day is a bad game. It's got rubbish levels with lots of needless backtracking and humour only someone under 15 could find funny.

    +1 for this! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭sarumite


    Full priced high budget games are too long. Many games that clock in at 15-20 hours overstay their welcome and would have been better as much shorter games.

    Side missions in most open world games are crap filler content

    Many open world games use the 'open world' as a lazy way of not having to worry about working on good level design.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,218 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Fnz wrote: »
    Dota 2 is not a MMO, unless you're seriously stretching the generally-accepted meaning of the term. So, do you hate, both, MMOs (such as Planetside 2, Defiance, Guild Wars, etc.) and MOBAs (such as Smite, Monday Night Combat, Awesomenauts, Dota, etc.?

    Oh, and ARMA's control interface always feels like you are remote-controlling a drunk cow. :D

    I meant MOBAs, but generally I don't like MMOs either, I love Planetside 2 though because its also an FPS.

    ARMA's interface and controls suck balls! But if you invest enough time in it eventually you just get used to it and the controls become second nature so it gets a bit more fluid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I had a Nintendo 64 and Goldeneye was not the great game people act like it was.
    It was the best of a bad, awful crappy bunch. That does not make it a great game. It was simply a good game, but was easily outdone by dozens of Playstation games.

    Halo is the same. It's really not that great of a story, and certainly not the best FPS around.

    Nintendo should just release a proper Pokemon game for PC, they would practically print money from a good PC port, and even more if they opened it up to PS4 and Xbox One.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    My unpopular gaming opinions:

    FPS is the most turgid and boring genre by a country mile.

    Call of Duty is awful.

    Zombies are incredibly boring / infuriating in their prevalence.

    Racing sims (but not so much arcade) are boring.

    Splinter Cell has always been a terrible franchise.

    Online mulitplayer is mostly annoying.

    EA Sports games are uniformly terrible except maybe Fight Night.

    Metal Gear franchise isn't worth bothering with.

    Can't think of any more at the moment.

    Eh, what do you play?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,588 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    - Badly implemented controls are a mark of a badly designed game [Normally I wouldn't classify that as controversial but apparently it is]
    - MMOs are the same ****e repackaged in slightly different boxes, which you end up playing with pretty much the same people doing pretty much the same thing each time.
    - Zombies are not an unusually overdone archetype in gaming. Nazis, aliens, middle eastern terrorists and cute anime scuts are.
    - The risk/reward in PvP/Survival online games is completely out of balance, breaking the immersion of the "survival" aspect and reducing the PvP aspect to playing risk adverse Deathmatch on very large, very boring maps.
    - If you stop buying Creative Assembly's ****e, they'll stop making it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭GerB40


    I don't very much care for GTA V. I finished it once and tried to get back into it but couldn't be bothered.. Also I invert the y axis (press up for down and down for up). Don't know why, I just can't play the "normal" way.

    Edit: And now that I think of it, Gran Turismo can fúck off too..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭kevovek


    I didn't enjoy mass effect at all never tried 2 or 3 because of this, just could not get into it.

    Loved skyrim but disliked oblivion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭kevovek


    I didn't enjoy mass effect at all never tried 2 or 3 because of this, just could not get into it.

    Loved skyrim but disliked oblivion.


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