Where is the annual Good Friday thread?

C14N

minidazzler wrote: »

As a bartender, I must say, I'm against restrictions on opening hours AND on the Consumption of alcohol. I don't want a bunch of kids in the pub, but if parents want to let a child have a drink or two with dinner in a bar/restaurant they should be allowed.

I'm assuming that at least has something to do with possibly negligent parents letting their kids have too much booze.

end of the road

catallus wrote: »

This is nonsense: are you against opening hours being restricted too? Or age restrictions on the selling of alcohol?

yes i'm against opening and closing hours, let the pubs open and close whenever they want

end of the road

C14N wrote: »

Whoa there Miss Rand, it's only for a day and for a tiny proportion of the consumer base for the drinks companies. And if this was really harming the pubs you can guarantee they would organise to have it overturned. As it is it's basically an old law left on the books because changing it is more effort than it's worth. It's not exactly case the Vatican really care that much about.

its a day where an industry can't ply its trade for no reason while others can, some publicans and restaurant owners are and have been trying to get it overturned, infact it doesn't have to be overturned, all that needs to happen is the relevant minister to tell the guards to turn a blind eye, the law doesn't have to be overturned, just not enforced, its probably whats happening all ready anyway.

Jamsiek

end of the road wrote: »

the law doesn't have to be overturned, just not enforced, its probably whats happening all ready anyway.

I agree that a blind eye should be turned to this silly nanny state law but I also think it should be overturned. What about tourism in Ireland on that day? It's sure to suffer. It's embarrassing.

lertsnim

Jamsiek wrote: »

It's embarrassing.

I do wonder how it all looks to a tourist that comes here for the Easter holidays. How would they explain it to somebody who might consider coming here without it sounding like nanny state telling us what to do.

CarrickMcJoe

force eleven wrote: »

This country goes barmy for the drink. Quite sickening. Can ye not survive one day dry?

There were actually 3 days when pubs remained shut. Ash Wed, Good Friday and St. Patrick's Day. The Government overturned the St. Patrick's day closure to attract tourists into the country. (And look at that success story)

Though, if all the whingers went to the pub every other weekend, maybe there would be less pubs closing.

jester77

Sir Arther Daley wrote: »

Ah good friday my annual trip to the cinema.

Do the cinemas in Ireland have an exemption to serve beer on good Friday like the train stations have?

anncoates

If Good Friday didn't exist, Irish people would invent it.

It's a single day that requires Armageddon-level stockpiling of alcohol on Holy Thursday and allows students and hand-wringers to whine for hours about the nanny/religious state while paradoxically still enjoying a holiday and the most depraved, alcoholic house parties of the year.

Santa Cruz

Why no "Do you wear an Easter Lily" thread?

Davarus Walrus

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

There were actually 3 days when pubs remained shut. Ash Wed, Good Friday and St. Patrick's Day. The Government overturned the St. Patrick's day closure to attract tourists into the country. (And look at that success story)

Though, if all the whingers went to the pub every other weekend, maybe there would be less pubs closing.

That's the point. It's the same mouth breathers complaining about the price of drink in pubs who are now giving out about not being able to visit these places. They are drunk on outrage.

Santa Cruz

end of the road wrote: »

its a day where an industry can't ply its trade for no reason while others can, some publicans and restaurant owners are and have been trying to get it overturned, infact it doesn't have to be overturned, all that needs to happen is the relevant minister to tell the guards to turn a blind eye, the law doesn't have to be overturned, just not enforced, its probably whats happening all ready anyway.

"all that needs to happen is the relevant minister to tell the guards to turn a blind eye, the law doesn't have to be overturned"

Will the dirtbird of a politician put that in writing? That's all we need. More political interference in the justice system.
If you want the law changed go out and start a campaign

Sadderday

whoop whoop day off work but

do the beer run tomara

I Heart Internet

Drink. Day and age. Backward. If you want. Can't you just. Alchohol. Country has a major. Bar staff. I always. GAA. Train. Government. Stag trip. Religion. I always. Cans. Hopeless.

Did I leave anything out? Have we finished the thread?

jimgoose

I Heart Internet wrote: »

...Did I leave anything out? Have we finished the thread?

John Charles McQuaid. Nazis.

Now it's finished - I've Godwinned it. :pac:

Soft Falling Rain

anncoates wrote: »

If Good Friday didn't exist, Irish people would invent it.

It's a single day that requires Armageddon-level stockpiling of alcohol on Holy Thursday and allows students and hand-wringers to whine for hours about the nanny/religious state while paradoxically still enjoying a holiday and the most depraved, alcoholic house parties of the year.

Watch it now, you'll have people crying to you about how it's actually a pagan holiday. Or is that christmas I'm thinking of? Or both? :pac:

YFlyer

Never knew pubs close on Ash Wednesday

ThunbergsAreGo

anncoates wrote: »

If Good Friday didn't exist, Irish people would invent it.

It's a single day that requires Armageddon-level stockpiling of alcohol on Holy Thursday and allows students and hand-wringers to whine for hours about the nanny/religious state while paradoxically still enjoying a holiday and the most depraved, alcoholic house parties of the year.

I dont get a holiday

I Heart Internet

YFlyer wrote: »

Never knew pubs close on Ash Wednesday

They don't, as far as I know.

super_furry

I think, in all interests of fairness, that churches should be banned from opening on a random Sunday in June.

end of the road

Jamsiek wrote: »

I agree that a blind eye should be turned to this silly nanny state law but I also think it should be overturned. What about tourism in Ireland on that day? It's sure to suffer. It's embarrassing.

i agree, i'm just responding to those who make out it would be a huge deal a lot of hassle and be hard to overturn by suggesting it just not be enforced, then when the TDS get time remove it altogether

GLaDOS

It certainly hits an important source of matchday revenue for Bohs when we play at home on good Friday. Usually would have 3 bars doing decent to excellent (depending on opposition) business before, during and after the match. Certainly money we could do without missing.

I'm sure it's the same for other LOI clubs.

Jamsiek

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

That's the point. It's the same mouth breathers complaining about the price of drink in pubs who are now giving out about not being able to visit these places. They are drunk on outrage.

So you are calling people who want a religiously motivated nanny state law overturned "mouth breathers".
When you resort to name calling, it usually shows you are losing the argument

smileyj1987

super_furry wrote: »

I think, in all interests of fairness, that churches should be banned from opening on a random Sunday in June.

They are banned from my life every week of the year . Funerals , weddings and that's the only reason I'm going to church . More people should get a civil marriage . It takes 15 mins. and it's done .

dublinman1990

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

It's a normal day of work for many people - and not just people whose job entails working holidays, anti-social hours etc.

Yeah it is a normal day for some people but not for the vast majority of people working & living in Ireland.

I can give you an example of a Dublin bus route, the 7b to shankill, which ran past my house during Good Friday last year. On any normal working day there will be plenty of buses passing full of passengers as it is a peak service.

On the evenings of Good Friday however, three out of the four buses carry nothing but fresh air bar one or two passengers as most buses are completely empty as they go past my house. I would say it is probably the same for every other bus route even though they work normal hours on that day.

The rail and luas services on that day could provide the same too. We could have seen places in the years gone by and now like Heuston and Connolly operate like a ghost town on a day like Good Friday. It could actually happen.

C14N

end of the road wrote: »

its a day where an industry can't ply its trade for no reason while others can, some publicans and restaurant owners are and have been trying to get it overturned, infact it doesn't have to be overturned, all that needs to happen is the relevant minister to tell the guards to turn a blind eye, the law doesn't have to be overturned, just not enforced, its probably whats happening all ready anyway.

Now we're dipping toes into anarchy. The solution to laws you don't like is to change them, not just ignore them.

Are bank holidays just as reprehensible? Many businesses are supposed to give the day off to their employees while others (such as most shops and restaurants) stay open.

KungPao

Pubs miss out but the your local chipper will be run off their feet.

Cod and chips please!

What an odd law.

Not as bad as the hilarious 10PM limit :pac:

What a country.

Dyr

C14N wrote: »

The solution to laws you don't like is to change them, not just ignore them.

Are you Irish at all at all?

Jamsiek

C14N wrote: »

The solution to laws you don't like is to change them

All we need is a politician with the cojones to bring up the motion in the dail.
Maybe they just feel it's too much of a sacred cow.

I Heart Internet

Jamsiek wrote: »

All we need is a politician with the cojones to bring up the motion in the dail.
Maybe they just feel it's too much of a sacred cow.

That's another religion entirely

The antics in Kerry County Council show, I think, that Irish politicians love nothing more than displaying their overt religiousity at election time.

C14N

Bambi wrote: »

Are you Irish at all at all?

Yes.

Jamsiek wrote: »

All we need is a politician with the cojones to bring up the motion in the dail.
Maybe they just feel it's too much of a sacred cow.

I really just think not enough people care that much about it either way. I can't imagine it being that big a controversy if it was overturned.

iDave

I remember when the butchers didn't even open on Good Friday.
Hopefully in time the pubs will follow suit. From what I gather it wouldn't be an enormously difficult process for the Minister for Justice to follow.
I can live without drink on a Friday, I wont be stockpiling on Thursday. There's plenty of weekends throughout the year I don't drink at all.
Its not having the choice that irks me a bit.
If Christians want to make that sacrifice fair enough but those of us who are not Christian we shouldn't have to be forced to comply.

Jamsiek

C14N wrote: »

I really just think not enough people care that much about it either way.

I just think that it casts a poor image, particular to visitors to the country, that Ireland still has laws like this in 2014.

C14N wrote: »

I can't imagine it being that big a controversy if it was overturned.

I would hope so but there still seems to be a very vocal minority of religious zealots in Ireland opposed to any kind of progress.

C14N

Jamsiek wrote: »

I just think that it casts a poor image, particular to visitors to the country, that Ireland still has laws like this in 2014.


I would hope so but there still seems to be a very vocal minority of religious zealots in Ireland opposed to any kind of progress.

I don't think even the visitors really care that much, not that I expect we even get that many for Easter. I really doubt many tourists are coming in and then sneering at us for having a silly religious law. It's a bit of a strange one alright, even from a religious context. The sale of meat and condoms isn't banned, it's sort of an anomaly that alcohol is. Really we'd probably have an easy time overturning it if it wasn't for the fact that everybody immediately stops caring on Saturday morning.

Pumpkinseeds

It's a silly law that should be repealed. It's completely out of touch with a modern world. I don't drink in pubs often so it doesn't really affect me as such. What a backward little island we must seem to any tourists who find that they can't have a drink on that day because of some outdated Catholic belief.

There must be more booze consumed on that day than almost any other in the year, so like most Catholic nonsense it's just hypocrisy.

Sadderday

lads...... roll with the holy jazz...

Just get yer beers in tomorrow to wash down the sausage sambo that you have at 11am on Friday..... when your not in work.

GenieOz

Sadderday wrote: »

lads...... roll with the holy jazz...

Just get yer beers in tomorrow to wash down the sausage sambo that you have at 11am on Friday..... when your not in work.

I'm in the thick of it in work.
Pharma never rest

Jamsiek

Sadderday wrote: »

lads...... roll with the holy jazz...

Just get yer beers in tomorrow to wash down the sausage sambo that you have at 11am on Friday..... when your not in work.

I'll be in Portland Oregon, craft beer capital of the world, on Good Friday so I'll be enjoying the forbidden fruit

Riskymove

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

There must be more booze consumed on that day than almost any other in the year, so like most Catholic nonsense it's just hypocrisy.

You are thinking of Arthur's day

Sadderday

Jamsiek wrote: »

I'll be in Portland Oregon, craft beer capital of the world, on Good Friday so I'll be enjoying the forbidden fruit

I spent a good friday in Portland Ore last year, suppin a beer with a view of mount hood.

jealous

Pumpkinseeds

Riskymove wrote: »

You are thinking of Arthur's day

I thought Arthur's day was just a marketing ploy that most adults ignore:D

jobeenfitz

Why are other anti-good friday threads being closed? Is there a law saying "there shall only be one thread".

At least we are allowed one more thread than the North Koreans, I think?

matrim

My view on Good Friday is that it's stupid to close the pubs but because almost everywhere I've worked has also given the day off work and I'd rather get the day off and have the pubs closed than have the pubs open and have to work too.

Jamsiek

matrim wrote: »

My view on Good Friday is that it's stupid to close the pubs but because almost everywhere I've worked has also given the day off work and I'd rather get the day off and have the pubs closed than have the pubs open and have to work too.

What about having the pubs open AND the day off?

jobeenfitz

Jamsiek wrote: »

What about having the pubs open AND the day off?

Ya cant be opening the pubs on the 2000th (or therabouts) anniversary of yer mans death. How bloody dare ya! Have ya no respect?

Paramite Pie

Jamsiek wrote: »

What about having the pubs open AND the day off?

What if you work in a pub? what are the options then? O_o

matrim

Jamsiek wrote: »

What about having the pubs open AND the day off?

That would be my preferred option, but if they changed the law to have pubs open I can see other companies changing their policy on it too. It's never been official policy in anywhere I've worked, just an extra little perk that you get and it's something that's easily changed.

In saying that a few years ago I did send an email to a few TDs about it but got either no response or the usual it's just 1 day a year bollox

catallus

My view on Good Friday is that it is a historical remembrance of the sacrifice made by a man who, through his teachings and legacy, promoted the idea that people should, even if they shot your baby, treat them as they would treat yourself.

I try to imagine a place where I could offer myself if someone shot my baby: I can't. My conclusion is I am weak.

This is the question that the religion of Christianity sets.

For two thousand years it has been the basis for society.

rainbow kirby

catallus wrote: »

For two thousand years it has been the basis for society.

Plenty of societies got on just fine without it.

catallus

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Plenty of societies got on just fine without it.

Yes. They did. And the point is is that they were not Christian.

We have to know what we're talking about here.

Jamsiek

Paramite Pie wrote: »

What if you work in a pub? what are the options then? O_o

I can't see a reason why it should be any different to any other day.
If you want to take the day off, you should be able to apply for it, same as what happens all over the world.