Peaches Geldof dead aged 25 - MOD NOTE: NO JOKES

Muise...

I'm really torn on this one.

Piliger is being unkind, but Stretch The Pussy is a dreadful username.

:mad:

Muise...

Muise... wrote: »

I'm really torn on this one.

Piliger is being unkind, but Stretch_The_Pussy is a dreadful username.

:mad:

I sometimes choose not to respond to a user based on the tastelessness of their username. There are a few, but that one is particularly notable.

Smidge

Jeez.......
Someone didnt have their Ready Brek this morning!

JP Liz V1

ibarelycare wrote: »

It's been reported this morning that Peaches' 11-month-old son Phaedra was with her when she passed. So sad, I hope it wasn't too long before she was found, the poor baby

Very sad indeed


Wasn't her younger sister with her mother when she died

Merkin

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Very sad indeed


Wasn't her younger sister with her mother when she died

Yes

Aidric

Not given to speculation but posting a pic of herself with her departed mother the day before she dies says a lot about where her head was. RIP.

ceadaoin.

Aidric wrote: »

Not given to speculation but posting a pic of herself with her departed mother the day before she dies says a lot about where her head was. RIP.

She really seemed devoted to those kids. I highly doubt she would kill herself whilst her youngest child was in her sole care.

Amazingfun

ceadaoin. wrote: »

She really seemed devoted to those kids. I highly doubt she would kill herself whilst her youngest child was in her sole care.

Sorry, but this kind of thinking assumes there is a logic or rational thinking connected with suicide. Although true in some cases, there is plenty of evidence to the contrary, unfortunately.

Jesus Wept

Aidric wrote: »

Not given to speculation but posting a pic of herself with her departed mother the day before she dies says a lot about where her head was. RIP.

Bit of a jump, some people like to remeber their deceased loved ones believe it or not. She may have posted pics of her mum frequently.



Pilligers posts are silly.

Aidric

Our Year wrote: »

Bit of a jump, some people like to remeber their deceased loved ones believe it or not. She may have posted pics of her mum frequently.



Pilligers posts are silly.

Do you mean pillagers? Regardless, I wasn't trying to be definitive and I don't know her twitter history. All I'm saying is that she may have been in a troubled state.

Kiwi in IE

Bob Geldof presents as a lovely, open minded, free thinking person. He didn't deserve more crap. And he was unbelievably gorgeous in 1979 (when I was 2) in the 'Don't like Monday' video. My dad resembles him in a scarily similar way!

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Piliger wrote: »

Why do you find it so necessary to be personally abusive ?

Hilarious saying this after you called someone you've never met before "a spoiled brat" and someone with "not talent"

iguana

Aidric wrote: »

Not given to speculation but posting a pic of herself with her departed mother the day before she dies says a lot about where her head was. RIP.

I thought that when I first heard it but then I actually looked at her page and saw that on the same day she also posted numerous pictures of her dogs and videos of her sons. She was also posting pictures of her family, several a day. I'm inclined to think the picture of her mother was a coincidence.

dodderangler

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Bob Geldof presents as a lovely, open minded, free thinking person. He didn't deserve more crap. And he was unbelievably gorgeous in 1979 (when I was 2) in the 'Don't like Monday' video. My dad resembles him in a scarily similar way!

So you fancy ya dad?

Sunglasses Ron

BOMB THE JEWS wrote: »

But the Boomtown Rats are still crap, right?

I love these essentially ban- suicidal usernames.

josealdo

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

I love these essentially ban- suicidal usernames.

hey sunglasses ron , are you RONNEL SUNGLASSES ?:)

thimble

iguana wrote: »

I thought that when I first heard it but then I actually looked at her page and saw that on the same day she also posted numerous pictures of her dogs and videos of her sons. She was also posting pictures of her family, several a day. I'm inclined to think the picture of her mother was a coincidence.

Yes, she seems to have been someone who just liked family photos. And wasn't she meant to have been going through a boxful on the day of her death?

No Pants

ceadaoin. wrote: »

She really seemed devoted to those kids.

Unless her phone was in peril.

yellow hen

No Pants wrote: »

Unless her phone was in peril.

Unecessary comment

SEPT 23 1989

My partners mother died when she was very young,she found her dead on the kitchen floor,thirty odd years have passed but i know when things get very rough all she really wants is to be in her mothers arms

maybe this is what happened to Bobs girl

dubstarr

That was a lovely painting on the coffin.Really summed her up.Hard to believe when your time is upits up.

No Pants

yellow hen wrote: »

Unecessary comment

Fine, let the previous falsehood stand.

jane82

Any cause of death yet?

wiz569

jane82 wrote: »

Any cause of death yet?

Waiting on toxicology report I believe

jane82

wiz569 wrote: »

Waiting on toxicology report I believe

Either carbon monoxide poisoning or not the mother people seem to think she was so.

wiz569

jane82 wrote: »

Either carbon monoxide poisoning or not the mother people seem to think she was so.

Doubt its carbon monoxide poisoning as I believe one of the children was with or in the vicinity of her when she died,

tbh toxicology can also be inconclusive,it can bring back a report on levels of substances in the blood,which may be above recommended guidelines but still may not be absolute prove of cause of death

iguana

She was cremated wasn't she. So that means that the police have ruled out foul play anyway. Otherwise a cremation would have been prohibited.

jane82 wrote: »

Either carbon monoxide poisoning or not the mother people seem to think she was so.

Are you implying that suffering from mental illness/being depressed to the point of being suicidal makes someone a bad mother?

Muise...

iguana wrote: »

She was cremated wasn't she. So that means that the police have ruled out foul play anyway. Otherwise a cremation would have been prohibited.



Are you implying that suffering from mental illness/being depressed to the point of being suicidal makes someone a bad mother?

jane82 seems terribly excited at the possibility of Peaches somehow getting a comeuppance from her own death, , but in practical terms mental illness/depression would not make it easy to be any kind of mother at all.

jane82

iguana wrote: »

She was cremated wasn't she. So that means that the police have ruled out foul play anyway. Otherwise a cremation would have been prohibited.



Are you implying that suffering from mental illness/being depressed to the point of being suicidal makes someone a bad mother?

Im implying it makes them not a very good mother. Im not implying its their fault for this. Im implying somebody with no legs wouldnt be a great footballer.

jane82

Muise... wrote: »

jane82 seems terribly excited at the possibility of Peaches somehow getting a comeuppance from her own death, , but in practical terms mental illness/depression would not make it easy to be any kind of mother at all.

In honesty Im exited at the possibility that people may realise how many hours you spend on your outfit before pushing a buggy to the shop or how many wild outlandish ideas you have on parenting or how many baby photos you put on twitter has no reflection at all on your parenting skills.
Im excited at the chance that this fixation with false perfect parenting may end and people may actually aspire to raiseing their kids rather than raiseing their image.

Da Shins Kelly

Muise... wrote: »

jane82 seems terribly excited at the possibility of Peaches somehow getting a comeuppance from her own death, , but in practical terms mental illness/depression would not make it easy to be any kind of mother at all.

I suspect medication may have been involved, which definitely doesn't make her a bad mother. She seemed to me to get a great deal of fulfilment out of motherhood, but that doesn't mean that she didn't suffer with depression or anxiety, and so needed medication. Not unlikely that she may have accidentally overdosed on something, like what happened with Heath Ledger.

Muise...

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I suspect medication may have been involved, which definitely doesn't make her a bad mother. She seemed to me to get a great deal of fulfilment out of motherhood, but that doesn't mean that she didn't suffer with depression or anxiety, and so needed medication. Not unlikely that she may have accidentally overdosed on something, like what happened with Heath Ledger.

I didn't mean "bad mother" as deliberately unkind, just that mental illness can make it hard to function normally.

eviltwin

jane82 wrote: »

In honesty Im exited at the possibility that people may realise how many hours you spend on your outfit before pushing a buggy to the shop or how many wild outlandish ideas you have on parenting or how many baby photos you put on twitter has no reflection at all on your parenting skills.
Im excited at the chance that this fixation with false perfect parenting may end and people may actually aspire to raiseing their kids rather than raiseing their image.

Peaches isn't all that different to a lot of normal parents in that regard. Many parents I know put their children's pics on Facebook or make an effort to look well before they go out. Its not a bad thing. Just as its not an indication that you are a great parent neither should it be used as a marker that you might not be 100% committed to your child.

Da Shins Kelly

Muise... wrote: »

I didn't mean "bad mother" as deliberately unkind, just that mental illness can make it hard to function normally.

Yeah, I totally understand. If it does turn out that her death is related to mental illness, I don't think that's something that should be used as a way to brand her a bad mother or use it as a "I was right!", self-satisfaction moment, like some people seem intent on doing. That's actually in pretty bad taste.

AndonHandon

High profile deaths are necessary in the war against drugs. She fuelled criminal behavior through her illegal narcotic consumption and she, like Philip Seymour, lost their little game of Russian Roulette. I'm not anti-drugs but they are illegal and therefore unregulated so one takes their life, stupidly, into their hands by purchasing and consuming same.

ibarelycare

AndonHandon wrote: »

High profile deaths are necessary in the war against drugs. She fuelled criminal behavior through her illegal narcotic consumption and she, like Philip Seymour, lost their little game of Russian Roulette. I'm not anti-drugs but they are illegal and therefore unregulated so one takes their life, stupidly, into their hands by purchasing and consuming same.

Where are you getting the information from that she died from drugs?

AndonHandon

ibarelycare wrote: »

Where are you getting the information from that she died from drugs?

She didn't die from drugs but she was a drug user.

Muise...

ibarelycare wrote: »

Where are you getting the information from that she died from drugs?

Same source as his attitude, I'd say.

Ash.J.Williams

AndonHandon wrote: »

She didn't die from drugs but she was a drug user.

ex drug user as far as i know?

AndonHandon

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

ex drug user as far as i know?

Well, obviously.

jimgoose

AndonHandon wrote: »

She didn't die from drugs but she was a drug user.

So you're saying the odd cull doesn't do any harm among these pesky drug users? Thin 'em out, and get their attention, sort of thing? I've read some perfectly idiotic things on the Internet down through the aeons, but this is pretty bloody good!

AndonHandon

jimgoose wrote: »

So you're saying the odd cull doesn't do any harm among these pesky drug users? Thin 'em out, and get their attention, sort of thing? I've read some perfectly idiotic things on the Internet down through the aeons, but this is pretty bloody good!

As long as drugs are illegal, users are vermin to society. It's a fact one cannot logically refute.

jimgoose

AndonHandon wrote: »

As long as drugs are illegal, users are vermin to society. It's a fact one cannot logically refute.

I exceeded a speed limit in my car this morning. By your rationale, I am vermin and a belt of a piece of satellite debris would do me and society no harm either, eh? :pac::pac::pac:

B.A._Baracus

AndonHandon wrote: »

High profile deaths are necessary in the war against drugs. She fuelled criminal behavior through her illegal narcotic consumption and she, like Philip Seymour, lost their little game of Russian Roulette. I'm not anti-drugs but they are illegal and therefore unregulated so one takes their life, stupidly, into their hands by purchasing and consuming same.

ibarelycare wrote: »

Where are you getting the information from that she died from drugs?

With all due respect to her. Your average 25 year old celebrity just doesnt suddenly die for no reason. If she had a natural heart defect (etc) am sure it would have made the news pretty early on.

her status as a celebrity & the showbiz scene. You can't blame anyone to think drugs were a cause. Even if it wasnt an OD... the damage by substance abuse.

But of course just opinion at this point. Am sure all will be revealed.

Wibbs

AndonHandon wrote: »

As long as drugs are illegal, users are vermin to society. It's a fact one cannot logically refute.

Actually it's easily enough refuted. Legality makes little difference as far as users go. After all alcohol is legal and more end up in casualty of a weekend from drink, more families and lives are affected than are affected with illegal drugs. Nicotine is legal and apparently kills half its userbase. That's a far higher mortality rate than say MDMA or LSD, never mind pot. Are those who have a few pints or glasses of vino at the weekend "vermin"?

I think your "logic" needs reassessing. I would suggest setting definitions of "drugs", "Users" and "Vermin" for a start, then get back to us when your statements are more cogent.

ScumLord

AndonHandon wrote: »

She didn't die from drugs but she was a drug user.

So, because she used drugs she deserves to die?

AndonHandon

AndonHandon wrote: »

As long as drugs are illegal, users are vermin to society. It's a fact one cannot logically refute.

I don't think logic is behind a post like this. Stony judgement and a lack of understanding or compassion maybe, but not logic.

The thing 'black-or-white' worlders don't get is that everyone else sees the shades of grey they miss, that's why they don't agree. Nothing to do with logic.

Wibbs

ScumLord wrote: »

So, because she used drugs she deserves to die?

Apparently. If this "logic" was in play then cool, but he's just killed off a goodly chunk of the great artists in history. Never mind the great musicians, philosophers, writers and scientists that would be culled too.

dubstarr

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

With all due respect to her. Your average 25 year old celebrity just doesnt suddenly die for no reason. If she had a natural heart defect (etc) am sure it would have made the news pretty early on.

her status as a celebrity & the showbiz scene. You can't blame anyone to think drugs were a cause. Even if it wasnt an OD... the damage by substance abuse.

But of course just opinion at this point. Am sure all will be revealed.

My cousins daughter died aged 20 last year from a heart defect that nobody knew about.It took 6 months for the autopsy to come back and let us know what she died from.Is entirely possible its natural cause but until the resuls come back,nobody knows.

ScumLord

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

her status as a celebrity & the showbiz scene. You can't blame anyone to think drugs were a cause. Even if it wasnt an OD... the damage by substance abuse.

I do blame people for having default opinions. Just reacting to a story with a hand me down opinion based on no evidence is just dumb mob behaviour. I guess people just like getting riled up about things, they love any excuse to regurgitate their dogma.