Peaches Geldof dead aged 25 - MOD NOTE: NO JOKES

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frostyjacks wrote: »

Thought Bob's press release was a bit oddly worded - "she was the most bonkers of all of us". Hardly a grieving tribute to his daughter. RTE were trying to link it into the state visit as well on the six one news. Jesus wept, have we lost the run of ourselves.

Bob would like to apoligies to you for not fitting your template of what a "grieving tribute" should be..

allym

frostyjacks wrote: »

Thought Bob's press release was a bit oddly worded - "she was the most bonkers of all of us". Hardly a grieving tribute to his daughter.

In the context of what else was said in that statement, it was clearly meant in a positive way. He was reflecting on who his daughter was as a person. There are plenty of people I know who I would describe as bonkers, but mean it in a wholly positive and complimentary way.
Who are we to judge how he chooses to phrase his statement on his young daughters death?

Zubeneschamali

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Reminds me of the Leaving Cert. :P

Me too, leaving cert 1983.

iguana

hotamatua wrote: »

I must say in recent pictures she was looking pretty addled.

I defy anyone with a nearly 2 year old and a nearly 1 year old (and several dogs) to not look "pretty addled" most of the time.

Zubeneschamali

iguana wrote: »

I defy anyone with a nearly 2 year old and a nearly 1 year old (and several dogs) to not look "pretty addled" most of the time.

Well, yes, but let's suppose for a minute that she was addled. That she had mental health issues. That she killed herself, either on purpose or by accident.

Is it somehow less of a tragedy that a young mother should die that way?

Why is an aneurysm a tragedy, but depression and suicide are a joke?

It's equally tragic either way, and those of you tempted to make jokes should know that mental illness can affect you or your family, so knock it off.

Spexy

Woodville56 wrote: »

The Peaches Geldof story being discussed on Prime Time , RTE 1 - sad, unfortunate and tragic for her family but hardly of significant national interest here?

Well if you were maybe as old as I am :-) you would realise the connection we have with Bob Geldof (an Irish man) and what great work the man did. He orchestrated Live Aid and did more for our awareness of poverty in the Third World than anybody else ever did or ever will. He selflessly arranged one of the biggest charity events in the world, and is behind that wonderful song, Do they know it's Christmas. He is/was also the lead singer of the Boomtown rats and we should and are proud of him.
It's so sad that he has lost his daughter now, after the tragic loss of his wife and the circumstances surrounding her death at the time. He has had a lot of heart ache, and I feel a lot of sympathy for him, and why wouldn't they talk about it on tv ?

Lucas Castroman

Spexy wrote: »

Well if you were maybe as old as I am :-) you would realise the connection we have with Bob Geldof (an Irish man) and what great work the man did. He orchestrated Live Aid and did more for our awareness of poverty in the Third World than anybody else ever did or ever will. He selflessly arranged one of the biggest charity events in the world, and is behind that wonderful song, Do they know it's Christmas. He is/was also the lead singer of the Boomtown rats and we should and are proud of him.
It's so sad that he has lost his daughter now, after the tragic loss of his wife and the circumstances surrounding her death at the time. He has had a lot of heart ache, and I feel a lot of sympathy for him, and why wouldn't they talk about it on tv ?

Am I the only one who would have preferred if Live Aid never happened and Bob naturally disappeared into obscurity?

Sam Kade

Spexy wrote: »

Well if you were maybe as old as I am :-) you would realise the connection we have with Bob Geldof (an Irish man) and what great work the man did. He orchestrated Live Aid and did more for our awareness of poverty in the Third World than anybody else ever did or ever will. He selflessly arranged one of the biggest charity events in the world, and is behind that wonderful song, Do they know it's Christmas. He is/was also the lead singer of the Boomtown rats and we should and are proud of him.
It's so sad that he has lost his daughter now, after the tragic loss of his wife and the circumstances surrounding her death at the time. He has had a lot of heart ache, and I feel a lot of sympathy for him, and why wouldn't they talk about it on tv ?

He gained a lot from live aid and most of the money that was raised went towards buying weapons instead of food.

Amazingfun

Lucas Castroman wrote: »

Am I the only one who would have preferred if Live Aid never happened and Bob naturally disappeared into obscurity?

No.

Femme_Fatale

Sam Kade wrote: »

He gained a lot from live aid and most of the money that was raised went towards buying weapons instead of food.

Good outweighs the bad IMO. He still did something, whereas most people didn't.

thebaz

Lucas Castroman wrote: »

Am I the only one who would have preferred if Live Aid never happened and Bob naturally disappeared into obscurity?

Bob Geldof is one of my Irish heroes - not perfect , but he tried to help the less fortunate , in fact the starving - so sad for him and all the Geldof family - in our little country riddled with envy, jealousy and greed , he was a 100 times better than most.
Deepest sympathies

silverbolt

123balltv wrote: »

Very sad either drugs or suicide I fear

this is my thought as well.

If it was drugs well my sympathies really go outto her husband children and family then. As for her..........I'll be polite and say nothing

Sam Kade

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Good outweighs the bad IMO. He still did something, whereas most people didn't.

Pity he didn't hand the money over to someone he could trust that way the good would have really outshone the bad.

Maire2009

Christ, why are people in here arguing over whether we should like Bob Geldof or not, or whether Peaches was a celebrity, or making stupid jokes that a 10-year-old would get a clip round the ear for?

Two little boys will wake up tonight, and tomorrow, and the day after crying for Mammy and she'll never be there for them. They are just 1 and 2 and she is only 25. That is undeniably sad! This is sad if it happens to celebrity Peaches Geldof or the poorest of the poor in Africa - why do people have to quantify death, especially in one so young?!

catallus

There's a lot to be said for someone doing something, but what he did was a pretty blunt attempt at trying to help people in, I suppose, the only way he knew how (by organising a concert), but more recently he has shown himself to be a bit naive about how politics works. There is footage of him giving out to Angela Merkel for backtracking on foreign donations and she and her cohorts look mildly amused by him. It is sad that his daughter died.

The Backwards Man

Thread makes me sad.

RIP

Sam Kade

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Good outweighs the bad IMO. He still did something, whereas most people didn't.

Most people donated money to live aid

Femme_Fatale

";)"

Others didn't organise events on the scale of Live Aid is what I mean.

MidlandsM

Awful, just awful ......RIP

StupidLikeAFox

frostyjacks wrote: »

Thought Bob's press release was a bit oddly worded - "she was the most bonkers of all of us". Hardly a grieving tribute to his daughter. RTE were trying to link it into the state visit as well on the six one news. Jesus wept, have we lost the run of ourselves.

hmmm, heres the full statement, its a little more touching than how you represented it:
Peaches has died. We are beyond pain. She was the wildest, funniest, cleverest, wittiest and the most bonkers of all of us. Writing ‘was’ destroys me afresh. What a beautiful child. How is this possible that we will not see her again? How is that bearable? We loved her and will cherish her forever. How sad that sentence is. Tom and her sons Astala and Phaedra will always belong in our family, fractured so often, but never broken. Bob, Jeanne, Fifi, Pixie and Tiger Geldof

Zubeneschamali

catallus wrote: »

what he did was has shown himself to be a bit naive about how politics works.

Yeah, not like all those other pop stars who used their fame to much better effect politically. Except none of them ever did.

Oh, and Bob wasn't a pop star, actually.

And everyone hates Bono, who is, for trying that.

So never mind.

Gringo180

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

hmmm, heres the full statement, its a little more touching than how you represented it:
Peaches has died. We are beyond pain. She was the wildest, funniest, cleverest, wittiest and the most bonkers of all of us. Writing ‘was’ destroys me afresh. What a beautiful child. How is this possible that we will not see her again? How is that bearable? We loved her and will cherish her forever. How sad that sentence is. Tom and her sons Astala and Phaedra will always belong in our family, fractured so often, but never broken. Bob, Jeanne, Fifi, Pixie and Tiger Geldof

I find that staement a bit rushed or something and not heart felt. Obviously there hurting but it is worded terribly.

tomwaterford

Gringo180 wrote: »

I find that staement a bit rushed or something and not heart felt. Obviously there hurting but it is worded terribly.

jesus I taught it was heart breaking and from the heart and not like something put together by a clever soliciter
worded terribly...no wonder there were probily in bits with grief....like anyone would if was there daughter:o

Gringo180

tomwaterford wrote: »

jesus I taught it was heart breaking and from the heart and something put together by a clever soliciter
worded terribly...no wonder there were probily in bits with grief....like anyone would if was there daughter:o

Starting off with "peaches has died" .. I dont know but it just doesnt sound right. Passed may of been a better word than died, maybe im been a bit pedantic tho.

EyeSight

Gringo180 wrote: »

I find that staement a bit rushed or something and not heart felt. Obviously there hurting but it is worded terribly.

His daughter just died. I don't think he wanted to spend much time writing a statement for you. Nor do i think he cares what you think
He obviously took a minute to write this and get it out so that people would get their fix and give him some space

Some people in this thread......

Zubeneschamali

Gringo180 wrote: »

Starting off with "peaches has died" .. I dont know but it just doesnt sound right. Passed may of been a better word than died, maybe im been a bit pedantic tho.

No, you're not pedantic. See my opinion of V. Browne upthread.

Blogatron52

No need to pick apart Bob Geldolf's statement.. Or Bob Geldof IMO! The thread is about the tragic passing of a young mum.. Condolences to her family I say..

brooke 2

Penny Dreadful wrote: »

I heard it was an aneurysm. No one knows and all the rumours or assumptions of drugs or suicide don't help really.

AFAIK, Bob's mother died of a brain haemorrhage at 41 years old.

Gringo180

EyeSight wrote: »

His daughter just died. I don't think he wanted to spend much time writing a statement for you. Nor do i think he cares what you think
He obviously took a minute to write this and get it out so that people would get their fix and give him some space

Some people in this thread......

I agree and i didnt mean to be so judgemental i was just giving my thoughts on the statement sorry if i caused offence it wasnt meant.

CaraMay

Gringo180 wrote: »

Starting off with "peaches has died" .. I dont know but it just doesnt sound right. Passed may of been a better word than died, maybe im been a bit pedantic tho.

I don't think any of the details matter tbh as it's still the same end result - a young life lost and two boys who will grow up without their mother.

To me the use of 'passed on' would make it less harsh to hear but I'm sure poor bob feels the loss very harshly and 'died' reflects that.

vitani

Gringo180 wrote: »

I find that staement a bit rushed or something and not heart felt. Obviously there hurting but it is worded terribly.

What are you comparing it to, though? Most of the time when we see statements like this, it's in a movie or a book or a TV show. This statement isn't crafted to be beautifully written, it's a real life father paying tribute to his daughter. And chances are, he is holding something back. I shudder to think of the media intrusion he and his family will be going through over the coming weeks.

bodhrandude

Hey give the 'its drugs that caused it' a break give the autopsy report the benefit of the doubt, anything can cause your heart to stop its as simple as that.

Gringo180

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

No, you're not pedantic. See my opinion of V. Browne upthread.

?????

Gringo180

vitani wrote: »

What are you comparing it to, though? Most of the time when we see statements like this, it's in a movie or a book or a TV show. This statement isn't crafted to be beautifully written, it's a real life father paying tribute to his daughter. And chances are, he is holding something back. I shudder to think of the media intrusion he and his family will be going through over the coming weeks.

Listen i didnt mean to cause offence by commenting on his statement. I should of put myself in his shoes before judging him and I apologise for that.

Zubeneschamali

I don't want to joke about it. And the main thing I feel is not sadness or sympathy for her family.

This makes me angry.

And then that makes me feel sad, and sympathetic towards her family.

Timmyctc

Gringo180 wrote: »

No thread about that poor lady that passed away in Dublin today who was tragically killed by a road accident, but yet everywhere you look people are going oon about Peaches Geldof. Rip to both and godbless there families.

There was a thread about the other lady. But don't let that stand in the way of an agenda or anything.

Gringo180

Timmyctc wrote: »

There was a thread about the other lady. But don't let that stand in the way of an agenda or anything.

Okay thanks.

nocoverart

I honestly couldn't give a crap about celebrities and what they look like and all that boring jizz, but when a human younger than myself and with Two little kids dies! that sh1t makes you realise life is fragile (especially if it was health problems and out of her control)

JP Liz V1

Was it her husband and kids who found her?

CaraMay

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Was it her husband and kids who found her?

What does it matter?

JP Liz V1

CaraMay wrote: »

What does it matter?

I'm curious

StompToWork

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Was it her husband and kids who found her?

I'm sure some red-top rag will answer that question for you in the coming days. There's a fine line between curiosity and voyeurism.

anniehoo

ibarelycare wrote: »

This is so so sad. Peaches really seemed to have turned her life around since she had her children. You could tell she was a great mother and loved her family dearly.

This is one of those celebrity deaths that has really shocked me RIP

+1 Very shocked at this. Lovely young woman who came across as very bright and articulate in the media. I loved her bohemian style attitude to life and she genuinely came across as a lovely person and mother.

RIP Peaches.

Molloy81

IsMiseMyself wrote: »

A bit morbid perhaps, but I was just going through her Instagram photos. Someday, when her kids are older, at least they'll have all the photos she took of their lives together--perhaps it might one day offer a tiny comfort.

My own mother passed away when I was very young and I've always valued photos and that kind of thing.

Nothing morbid about this post. I lost my Dad in a horrible way as a kid. I have only ever had one photo of him and he is looking sideways in it! I vaguely remember his face but get so distressed as I get older feeling like I cannot remember and afraid to forget. I would give up everything I own to see just one close up photo of my Dad. I feel for Bob as my own family has been decimated in bad ways too. Its hard growing up without a parent, you feel lonely and left out when you see other kids with theirs. God Bless to her two little ones.

Molloy81

humanji wrote: »

Feel free to be outraged that people are acknowledging someone's death but please don't post about it in this thread.

Thankyou for this post. My Dad was an alcoholic and died very young in a bad way. No matter what he did, he did not deserve to die that way and if someone made jokes about it to me, after I committed murder, I would cry because I still miss him. While some people make fun, we will never see him again.....

zcorpian88

Very very sad to hear about this, a very pretty girl with her whole life ahead and history repeating itself for her two kids.

Feel worse for her Dad, had his wife leave him then had to bury her, and had fierce trouble adopting the youngest child afterwards.

Bob has done so much and cared about people that were starving and worked to keep the poorest people fed and watered and speaks his mind bluntly the way any normal Irish person would and doesn't hold back from it and he keeps having nothing but misfortune.

No parent should ever live to see their child die.

mrsbyrne

frostyjacks wrote: »

Thought Bob's press release was a bit oddly worded - "she was the most bonkers of all of us". Hardly a grieving tribute to his daughter. RTE were trying to link it into the state visit as well on the six one news. Jesus wept, have we lost the run of ourselves.

Is there a website called grievingtributes.com and "bonkers" is not in the list of acceptable platitudes?

mrsbyrne

Gringo180 wrote: »

I find that staement a bit rushed or something and not heart felt. Obviously there hurting but it is worded terribly.

Not heartfelt!? Jesus wept! Max Clifford or his ilk didn't write it so it doesn't fit into your narrow standard of what constitutes a tribute. I despair I really do.

corkonion

I always liked Peaches Geldof, I thought there was an underlying loveliness about her, and I also always believed that it was a heavy cross she carried having lost her Mum at such a young age. I cannot begin to imagine how her family are feeling and especially her Dad, Bob, who has had more heartache in his life than any one person could be asked to bear. My sympathies to her family. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam

mrsbyrne

Gringo180 wrote: »

I agree and i didnt mean to be so judgemental i was just giving my thoughts on the statement sorry if i caused offence it wasnt meant.

You find the use of the word dead "harsh". We'll here's the thing. My father, and my mother in law did not ,"pass". Pass where? They died. And they are now dead. This may come across as harsh, but you will die and I will die and then we will be dead. In actual fact gringo its the only thing you or I can be certain of.
But I'm sure Bob didn't realise that dead dying and died are now politically incorrect words.