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  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Tezza99


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    6 kg tyrella
    4 kg abberchoice
    4 kg Aston energy
    No clover
    Been set next Tuesday.gives a really thick sward with good all season growth.set same mix for last 2 years .very impressed.ob the Aston energy can anyone tell me why it ain't on the Irish approved list??.grows very well in greenfield and know 2 other guys that set it as a stand alone mix and massively impressed

    Where did you buy this mix? Or did you have to get it made up especially?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Tezza99 wrote: »
    Where did you buy this mix? Or did you have to get it made up especially?

    Got it made up as a special,put it out to 3 companies to get quotes and there was 4 euro a bag difference between cheapest and dearest .bought off shamrock enterprises


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Tezza99 wrote: »
    Where did you buy this mix? Or did you have to get it made up especially?

    Got it made up as a special,put it out to 3 companies to get quotes and there was 4 euro a bag difference between cheapest and dearest .bought off shamrock enterprises


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Got 8 bags of tyrella aberchoice and abergain for 68e/bag today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    I sowed grasseed 1 week ago its up today, it that a world record ?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Job done just before rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    Mine is longer than yours :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    dharn wrote: »
    I sowed grasseed 1 week ago its up today, it that a world record ?:)

    i scattered a fistful and covered it 2 weeks ago in field i have ready and no stir , but docks appearing already , thinking of waiting another week and respraying the fu**c**


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭larrymiller


    Do any of yee just use permanent pasture from glanbia? What's it like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Do any of yee just use permanent pasture from glanbia? What's it like?

    What's in it? We buy the seed off them. Makes no difference as long as its the variety's you want and the price is right


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭agriman27


    Has anyone ever used any of the wetland grass seed mixture for heavy type solis, a few of the companies are doing them now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Job done just before rain
    nice job well done

    tried one of those and spent days stone picking,but good job when you have soil ,have to disc and direct drill after breaking sods, because of lack of soil depth,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    sandydan wrote: »
    nice job well done

    tried one of those and spent days stone picking,but good job when you have soil ,have to disc and direct drill after breaking sods, because of lack of soil depth,

    13 acres and picked about 10 stones when rolling find ripper a great job tbh.have I tried a stitcher ?just burn off,cut for silage or graze bare and seed in.seen it been done in places with little soil and a good job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    13 acres and picked about 10 stones when rolling find ripper a great job tbh.have I tried a stitcher ?just burn off,cut for silage or graze bare and seed in.seen it been done in places with little soil and a good job
    a few years back while i was in crutches my 15 yr old son ploughed 6 acres of reclaimed mountain with fiskers plough, pulled up everything he met,so got digger back to deep-bury the ones bigger than a barrel down to football size about 10 trailer loads for start, got in fella to row and heap about 80 trailer loads in all. id say ive about 4 acres with no stone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    sandydan wrote: »
    a few years back while i was in crutches my 15 yr old son ploughed 6 acres of reclaimed mountain with fiskers plough, pulled up everything he met,so got digger back to deep-bury the ones bigger than a barrel down to football size about 10 trailer loads for start, got in fella to row and heap about 80 trailer loads in all. id say ive about 4 acres with no stone

    Where you based? We have this lad coming next week to price a job. Does super work.http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/stones-bushes-stumps-rushes/5110671


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Where you based? We have this lad coming next week to price a job. Does super work.http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/stones-bushes-stumps-rushes/5110671

    Some line out were they in the journal a while back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    Where you based? We have this lad coming next week to price a job. Does super work.http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarmmachinery-for-sale/stones-bushes-stumps-rushes/5110671

    down in west cork.have seen something like that in action around Kinsale .but limit to size of stone involved id say.i have hit boulders up to 10 ton. size of D6
    rock-breaker only man for job or air drill & black powder if ground soft underneath.cost a mint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    last job reclaimed 14 acres. got in fella with big Cat digger and dumper, massive job dug all ground about 6 foot deep. and buried some monsters, sandy under about 8 foot down in some parts. but digger was barely able to move them , just a nub cocking over ground think you'd break it with sledge but.. ,think it cost around £9,500 + vat, not including reseeding or stone-picking, cutting silage off it now . one contractor who used to cut silage for me when i asked him if he could powerharrow it for me while waiting for digger to come back to bury stones that came up when ploughing and stone raking advised to give it a rub of a bush after reseeding and twould be fine for grazing. fat chance after spending that much on it digging


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    What is the latest i could leave stitching in some grass seed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    Mid sept ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Night Nav


    Have anyone used Tipperary Grass from Agritech what are they like


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Roundbale


    Where you based? We have this lad coming next week to price a job. Does super work.]

    What kind of ground are they doing for you, is it light soil with rocks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Roundbale wrote: »
    What kind of ground are they doing for you, is it light soil with rocks?

    He was here today.
    Its 5 acres of wood we cleared in a 33 acre field that we never finished. Its all gone over grown now with Sally's . he said it would be best to clear it again and his machine would chop up the stumps and roots and leave it ready for sowing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭jt65


    Night Nav wrote: »
    Have anyone used Tipperary Grass from Agritech what are they like


    I used their 4A early may, took a long time to get going due to the weather .. first it was actually water logged for 10 days and then hit by drought

    grazed it twice with sheep & have taken 1 grazing with the cows , certianly seemed to lift milk yield

    havent seen it over 2 weeks , if anything it has a little too much clover for my liking

    spoke to the Sinclair McGill rep at the show yesterday & most likely be using their seed next time


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Night Nav


    jt65 wrote: »
    I used their 4A early may, took a long time to get going due to the weather .. first it was actually water logged for 10 days and then hit by drought

    grazed it twice with sheep & have taken 1 grazing with the cows , certianly seemed to lift milk yield

    havent seen it over 2 weeks , if anything it has a little too much clover for my liking

    spoke to the Sinclair McGill rep at the show yesterday & most likely be using their seed next time

    Thanks for your experience but would like to hear more of the long term as I have 10 acres of a hill to do with a nice few stones and would not like to be going back in the near future was thinking of going in with their No.4


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭jt65


    Night Nav wrote: »
    Thanks for your experience but would like to hear more of the long term as I have 10 acres of a hill to do with a nice few stones and would not like to be going back in the near future was thinking of going in with their No.4


    I know a fellow that does a a fair bit of reseeding every year and uses their mix

    his land would be good though

    I'd have some like yourself for doing too but would be more sandy nature , got burned this year , the rep yesterday recommended their mix for this, their brochure is still in the jeep , must check it in the morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    Anyone here have a recommendation for boggy ground well drained now, actually grows clover, and tests say it does not need lime, but a lot of tired grass in it now


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,704 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Night Nav wrote: »
    Have anyone used Tipperary Grass from Agritech what are they like
    Ya use 4a here too last year. A high nitrogen regime probably suits it better. Good early spring growth, but a bit open. Have a paddock reseeded about 3 years also and it grows well.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    dharn wrote: »
    Anyone here have a recommendation for boggy ground well drained now, actually grows clover, and tests say it does not need lime, but a lot of tired grass in it now

    Bump


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    dharn wrote: »
    Anyone here have a recommendation for boggy ground well drained now, actually grows clover, and tests say it does not need lime, but a lot of tired grass in it now

    If it's level I'd recommend spray, cut/ graze tight 5 days later, chain harrow, seed, roll. And obviously fertilizer. Has worked for me and wont leave it prone to poaching like any form of cultivation will. If you're not in a hurry I'd leave it till April/ May next year and then at least you'll be sure you'll get to graze it at least 2-3 times before closing for winter.

    I'm amazed it doesn't need lime. Have you applied lime in the last few years?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭Charliebull


    just do it wrote: »
    If it's level I'd recommend spray, cut/ graze tight 5 days later, chain harrow, seed, roll. And obviously fertilizer. Has worked for me and wont leave it prone to poaching like any form of cultivation will. If you're not in a hurry I'd leave it till April/ May next year and then at least you'll be sure you'll get to graze it at least 2-3 times before closing for winter.

    I'm amazed it doesn't need lime. Have you applied lime in the last few years?

    Tests on ground like that can be misleading, sometimes it would not be working as hard to grow grass as it can be full of thrash

    +1 on leaving it, let it dry out, give it a run of round up before growth stops and again in April, mulch it, chain harrow and seed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    are you far inland, friend had problem like yours for years until about 4 years ago,sent sample everywhere,all ok or so he was told. if he didn't use something like 27.2.5,5 had little grass. eventually soil and herbage sample was sent to some lab in Scotland and he was told to use 21% N, it worked .too much salt (from sea) was tying up P&K. just thought id mention it. he never heard of it before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭Robson99


    jt65 wrote: »

    spoke to the Sinclair McGill rep at the show yesterday & most likely be using their seed next time

    Which mix were you thinking of jt65


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    just do it wrote: »
    If it's level I'd recommend spray, cut/ graze tight 5 days later, chain harrow, seed, roll. And obviously fertilizer. Has worked for me and wont leave it prone to poaching like any form of cultivation will. If you're not in a hurry I'd leave it till April/ May next year and then at least you'll be sure you'll get to graze it at least 2-3 times before closing for winter.

    I'm amazed it doesn't need lime. Have you applied lime in the last few years?

    Thanks for answers lads , the question was more about seed mixes, what types of grass prefer wet feet ! As for lime, it was tested a few times when I was in reps , no lime needed but I would definitely use gran lime when sowing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭jt65


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Which mix were you thinking of jt65

    Prosper

    haven't really checked them out yet,


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭Robson99


    dharn wrote: »
    Thanks for answers lads , the question was more about seed mixes, what types of grass prefer wet feet ! As for lime, it was tested a few times when I was in reps , no lime needed but I would definitely use gran lime when sowing
    I would include about 10% Timothy for wetish land


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭agriman27


    Moregrass and drummonds have wetland mixes probly some other seed companies doing them too. They seem to include late heading varieties and Timothy. I have often asked on here has anyone used them mixes but nobody has. Hope you use it so I can hear if there any good:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    dharn wrote: »
    Thanks for answers lads , the question was more about seed mixes, what types of grass prefer wet feet ! As for lime, it was tested a few times when I was in reps , no lime needed but I would definitely use gran lime when sowing

    I would go with 100% diploid. variety suggestions would be late heading and from the 2014 Department list.

    my suggestion 50:50 mix of Aberchoice: Drumbo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    agriman27 wrote: »
    Moregrass and drummonds have wetland mixes probly some other seed companies doing them too. They seem to include late heading varieties and Timothy. I have often asked on here has anyone used them mixes but nobody has. Hope you use it so I can hear if there any good:pac:

    An ex-mod mod on here mentioned a mix he used successfully for wet land but I can't recall what he'd in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    dont want to change subject , but have a field of grass had saved for silage, with drought its gone withered cattle dont like it ,no one around making pit silage to throw it in bottom of pit either so grazing ,any suggestions what to do with remainder of trampled grass. mow with old harvester or mower problem with mower is grass left on field.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Anyone ever use roseate to spray off with. Used it last week. Looks like it did the job. 100e for 20l


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    Anyone ever use roseate to spray off with. Used it last week. Looks like it did the job. 100e for 20l

    Used it last year, worked the finest, I'd be thinking that was a tad dear though, I'd have to check what I gave for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Anyone ever use roseate to spray off with. Used it last week. Looks like it did the job. 100e for 20l

    20 Ltrs clearall 55 euro.4 Ltrs per he ,burnt everything to a crisp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    20 Ltrs clearall 55 euro.4 Ltrs per he ,burnt everything to a crisp

    I'm sickened now :( never heard of that before.
    Put mine at 6l/ha
    Good bit of scutch in it that I don't want coming back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Possibly will reseed this 8ac next week depending on weather and what other work we have going on. Herd my question.
    0-10-20 vs 10-10-20
    Talking to two lads the other day and they reckoned 0-10-20 was better to use at sowing.
    There view on it was with 10-10-20 the nitrogen isn't utilised and you only drive up weeds.
    Any one else use 0-10-20.
    Only need 1200kgs so will just drive down to coop for it. They have both there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    Possibly will reseed this 8ac next week depending on weather and what other work we have going on. Herd my question.
    0-10-20 vs 10-10-20
    Talking to two lads the other day and they reckoned 0-10-20 was better to use at sowing.
    There view on it was with 10-10-20 the nitrogen isn't utilised and you only drive up weeds.
    Any one else use 0-10-20.
    Only need 1200kgs so will just drive down to coop for it. They have both there

    When would it need to get some N?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    td5man wrote: »
    When would it need to get some N?

    Will be putting pasture sward out the minute its up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Possibly will reseed this 8ac next week depending on weather and what other work we have going on. Herd my question.
    0-10-20 vs 10-10-20
    Talking to two lads the other day and they reckoned 0-10-20 was better to use at sowing.
    There view on it was with 10-10-20 the nitrogen isn't utilised and you only drive up weeds.
    Any one else use 0-10-20.
    Only need 1200kgs so will just drive down to coop for it. They have both there

    I'd b of the opinion to use the 10 10 20 anyway, use a post emergence on weeds


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭johndeere3350


    Have you lime spread ?
    Id be tinking the same throw out the 0-10-20 and then your pasture when its up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Have you lime spread ?
    Id be tinking the same throw out the 0-10-20 and then your pasture when its up.
    Have tonne of phisolith to spread.
    I'd like to get a grazing of it at least if u could
    If its up a week after sowing there us still 15 units of N there for the plant


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