reseeding

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yep,got 3 bags 10 10 20 at sowing and bag and a half of pasture sward this am.spray in 10 days or so and hopefully grazing by late September.

Mines in since tuesday. Might be up next sunday?

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Mines in since tuesday. Might be up next sunday?

You could see first shoots of mine up after a week,in current weather I'd say you should def see something within a week

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

You could see first shoots of mine up after a week,in current weather I'd say you should def see something within a week

Good soil temp at the min and good heavy dew at night

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Good soil temp at the min and good heavy dew at night

Perfect conditions.

Benefit for you guys with dry land is you'll get 1-2 grazings in before winter. Parts of my sept reseed last year didn't get grazed for 6-7 months. There is a definite difference in quality in those parts.

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

Perfect conditions.

Benefit for you guys with dry land is you'll get 1-2 grazings in before winter. Parts of my sept reseed last year didn't get grazed for 6-7 months. There is a definite difference in quality in those parts.

Hope to get at least one grazing off mine with the calves

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Hope to get at least one grazing off mine with the calves

Another advantage as a milker you've over me. Stop, I don't want to hear anymore

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

Another advantage as a milker you've over me. Stop, I don't want to hear anymore

Aswell as the milk ill stop now

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Aswell as the milk ill stop now

Ahh yes, but milk is only useful to wash the steak down

Greengrass1

Greengrass1

Reseed sowed last Tuesday is up. Any where it got good soil to seed contact is well up

Timmaay

Just destoned 10acres of a reseed afew mins ago. All of it was ploughed, and only 1/2 a loader bucket of stones in total! Result!

Milked out

Timmaay wrote: »

Just destoned 10acres of a reseed afew mins ago. All of it was ploughed, and only 1/2 a loader bucket of stones in total! Result!

Did 7 acres here one time Had a stone rake and dumpers drawing stone out of it.😟

Parishlad

Timmaay wrote: »

Just destoned 10acres of a reseed afew mins ago. All of it was ploughed, and only 1/2 a loader bucket of stones in total! Result!

Wish I had the same luck! Cleared 5 acres earlier in the Summer and still picking stones out of it. So far have taken about 8 trailer loads out. Only get to go at it on weekends. Will get it finished this Saturday and will get seed out after that. I know it's late but hopefully the weather holds.

sandydan

Timmaay wrote: »

Just destoned 10acres of a reseed afew mins ago. All of it was ploughed, and only 1/2 a loader bucket of stones in total! Result!

ploughed and deep dug about 10 acres,had about 80 loads,+ so count you blessings lads not your stones:)

restive

How sustainable are the yields in the years following a reseed. I know the first year are two are great. But after that what is the decline like in yield?

mahoney_j

restive wrote: »

How sustainable are the yields in the years following a reseed. I know the first year are two are great. But after that what is the decline like in yield?

I find its year 2 or 3 before a reseed really kicks into gear.as for decline it's up to how u manage it.avoid excessive poaching and if p k and lime levels are kept right u could get 10 or 12 years out of it,especially with all newer varietys over last few years

restive

mahoney_j wrote: »

I find its year 2 or 3 before a reseed really kicks into gear.as for decline it's up to how u manage it.avoid excessive poaching and if p k and lime levels are kept right u could get 10 or 12 years out of it,especially with all newer varietys over last few years

Which variety's do you prefer?

mahoney_j

restive wrote: »

Which variety's do you prefer?

Diploids a lot more than tetraploids ,gives a much denser ,thicker sward.when getting a mix I'd go for at least 85% diploid.mix I've used for last few years is tyrella,abbergain and Aston energy.savage stuff to grow.

Greengrass1

Lambofdave

Greengrass1 wrote: »

what was it sown with?

Greengrass1

Lambofdave wrote: »

what was it sown with?

Disced ×4 sowed seed with spinner. Rolled and put out fert and lime

sandydan

gras seed up and almost fit to graze lightly , got a line of docks spot sprayed them with knapsack sprayer last week using gallup, anyways docks are turning yella , how long do i need to wait to graze or should i wait till they wither much further, thanks

severeoversteer

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Disced ×4 sowed seed with spinner. Rolled and put out fert and lime

in need of moisture id say

Greengrass1

severeoversteer wrote: »

in need of moisture id say

Ye it would bounce now if it got some rain

Count Mondego

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Disced ×4 sowed seed with spinner. Rolled and put out fert and lime

Would you not roll after you spread the fert and lime? Not implying that you've done anything wrong but I've always done it that way.

Greengrass1

Count Mondego wrote: »

Would you not roll after you spread the fert and lime? Not implying that you've done anything wrong but I've always done it that way.

I was going to but didn't toss up much soil so said id leave be.
Had to roll it after seed or I wouldn't be able to follow my fert tracks

TITANIUM.

Can anyone recommend a good post emergence spray?

mahoney_j

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good post emergence spray?

No clover m50(mcp a) and if clover In Sward Db plus

TITANIUM.

mahoney_j wrote: »

No clover m50(mcp a) and if clover In Sward Db plus

DB plus it is so.
Goodman.

sandydan

how long after spraying docks in paddock can grass be grazed, spot sprayed last week and dock leves just going yellow now

just do it

sandydan wrote: »

how long after spraying docks in paddock can grass be grazed, spot sprayed last week and dock leves just going yellow now

If no noxious weeds like ragwort 7-10 days.

sandydan

thanks for that , ive got no ragworth just a nice straight line of docks and a few stragglers here and there and they are just turning yellow now,sprayed with gallup using knapsack

whelan2

Would you still need to harrow after sowing with these tines?

whelan2

15 acres of this going in now

Username John

whelan2 wrote: »

Would you still need to harrow after sowing with these tines?

Hmmm... they look a small bit shook Whelan.

I'm guessing that's the seed barrow, thats loanded out form the co-op? That everyone minds as if it was their own...

Farmer Pudsey

whelan2 wrote: »

Would you still need to harrow after sowing with these tines?

Ipresume that you aready have a seedbed of some sort. If so all you need to do is roll.

whelan2

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Ipresume that you aready have a seedbed of some sort. If so all you need to do is roll.

never roll after sowing here, doesnt suit the land, field is being powerharrowed now

Dawggone

whelan2 wrote: »

never roll after sowing here, doesnt suit the land, field is being powerharrowed now

If there is lots of dust ROLL!
I don't care what sort of land it is.
If "capping" is the problem use a Cambridge rolls.

whelan2

Dawggone wrote: »

If there is lots of dust ROLL!
I don't care what sort of land it is.
If "capping" is the problem use a Cambridge rolls.

My dad would have a heart attack. He rolled years ago after sowing and said never again

Dawggone

whelan2 wrote: »

My dad would have a heart attack. He rolled years ago after sowing and said never again

Times change.
Was a tillage contractor in a former life and I've planted seeds on all sorts of ground.
Good level, fine and firm seedbed. No need for covering harrow. Just ROLL!

just do it

Reseeded on untilled ground here earlier in the year when it was dry. Got 3 runs with the chain harrow which hardly scratched it, broadcast seed with wagtail and put slurry on top. Came the finest.

whelan2

we are going to roll it later, sowing away now

Farmer Pudsey

whelan2 wrote: »

My dad would have a heart attack. He rolled years ago after sowing and said never again

The three R's of reseeding roll, roll and roll again. The only proviso is if it rains brfore rolling and you cannot get at it for 48 hours after sowing do not do as seed may have chitted. In this type of weather where you have a wind it is critical that you roll to seal any moisture into ground and so that seed will make good contact with seed bed as whent it sprouts roots have a grip on soil

whelan2

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The three R's of reseeding roll, roll and roll again. The only proviso is if it rains brfore rolling and you cannot get at it for 48 hours after sowing do not do as seed may have chitted. In this type of weather where you have a wind it is critical that you roll to seal any moisture into ground and so that seed will make good contact with seed bed as whent it sprouts roots have a grip on soil

the tines on the barrow are a pain in the butt, tied them up:rolleyes: lad coming to roll it at 6. This is a field there was triticale in , sprayed it 10 days ago

Limestone Cowboy

whelan2 wrote: »

the tines on the barrow are a pain in the butt, tied them up:rolleyes: lad coming to roll it at 6. This is a field there was triticale in , sprayed it 10 days ago

Have a friend that seeded a heavy field a month ago and he rolled it with the roller almost empty and he seems to have got a great take. Might be an idea if you don't want to compact the ground!

Count Mondego

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Ipresume that you aready have a seedbed of some sort. If so all you need to do is roll.

I'd always run the chain harrow upside down to cover the seed and then roll. In the auld days the father used drag a bush over it. Is this a waste of time and I should just roll after spreading seed?

dharn

I think the worst thing you can do is bury the seed too deep, I did 2 bits this year tilled to approx 3 inches deep with rotovator, it was grand and fluffy, spread seed on it and rolled it, it was brilliant, up in a week grazed at 6 weeks, did another bit, could not till it as deep as rotavator broke after first shallow run, so chainharrowed it, sowed seed, used chainharrow upside down after seeding and rolled it, but it is in 2 weeks and only coming up now, in too deep...

whelan2

sown and rolled;) now to tell my da we rolled it when he gets back from holidays:eek:

Dawggone

whelan2 wrote: »

sown and rolled;) now to tell my da we rolled it when he gets back from holidays:eek:

First thing I learned about reseeding from my Dad many moons ago were the 3 F's ---> 1. Fine
2. Firm.
3. Fertile.
Simples.
Once you have dust, always roll, and the more dust the heavier the roller. QED.

Farmer Pudsey

Count Mondego wrote: »

I'd always run the chain harrow upside down to cover the seed and then roll. In the auld days the father used drag a bush over it. Is this a waste of time and I should just roll after spreading seed?

Only roll after seed. With a seed drill it only barely puts seed below ground. Rolling is the trick. Even heard to roll before putting out seed and rolling again after.