reseeding

Username John

We did a small bit of reseeding last week, no rolling...

Feck all rain since as well.. Could do with a drop now..

We shall see how things go...

Robson99

whelan2 wrote: »

My dad would have a heart attack. He rolled years ago after sowing and said never again

What harm would / did it do?

dharn

Compaction in heavy ground ?

Robson99

dharn wrote: »

Compaction in heavy ground ?

Must be extremely heavy

whelan2

Robson99 wrote: »

Must be extremely heavy

Not too bad this year but 2012 was brutal

simx

whelan2 wrote: »

Not too bad this year but 2012 was brutal

I have land that description fits ...... We did two cuts in the one day in 2012 ha

Milked out

I'd say it's more to do with the ground being a tad damp at the time of setting on heavy ground, rolling would then reduce the ability of the soil take in rainfall effectively, I think

Greengrass1

Anyone see the article in ifj last week about timacs stimgrass and phisolith?
Thinking of tryinh the stimgrass on my reseed

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Anyone see the article in ifj last week about timacs stimgrass and phisolith?
Thinking of tryinh the stimgrass on my reseed

Sounds interesting alright and worth a try

just do it

Your thinking is using at time of slaying post emergence, isn't that the idea?

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

Your thinking is using at time of slaying post emergence, isn't that the idea?

Ye supposed to stop grass getting checked and help roots get stronger.
I dont think the trail was as good as it could have been. If the field had been split in 3 equal parts it would giveva better show of tye products instead of headlands vs middle of field. The middle of field will aoways grow more thwn headlands

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ye supposed to stop grass getting checked and help roots get stronger.
I dont think the trail was as good as it could have been. If the field had been split in 3 equal parts it would giveva better show of tye products instead of headlands vs middle of field. The middle of field will always grow more than headlands

I was wondering about that all right. You've always have to be wary when the test and subsequent results are all dictated by the company. Anyway why don't you use it on half your field and report back;):D

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

I was wondering about that all right. You've always have to be wary when the test and subsequent results are all dictated by the company. Anyway why don't you use it on half your field and report back;):D

Ive used timac products before and have always got what they said I would. 14e a l and comes in 10l drum.
Worth a try

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ive used timac products before and have always got what they said I would. 14e a l and comes in 10l drum.
Worth a try

When I read about it I also thought it would an ideal product to use with MCPA

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

When I read about it I also thought it would an ideal product to use with MCPA

If you've no clover

Greengrass1

Walked reseed this morning. Not looking brilliant. Headlands are up really well and 4 leaves on most. Middle of field very patchy. Have something nipping top of new seedlings? Over run with fat hen. Few docks and chickweed but fat hen really taking over

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Walked reseed this morning. Not looking brilliant. Headlands are up really well and 4 leaves on most. Middle of field very patchy. Have something nipping top of new seedlings? Over run with fat hen. Few docks and chickweed but fat hen really taking over

Grazed mine this week with a cover of 700 on it,was struggling due to lack of rain but really thickened up in last 2 weeks. After rain.flying now after cows skint it.will graze again in 10 days and that's it till February .

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

Grazed mine this week with a cover of 700 on it,was struggling due to lack of rain but really thickened up in last 2 weeks. After rain.flying now after cows skint it.will graze again in 10 days and that's it till February .

How long us yours sowed? Mines down 4 wks maybe im making a problem out of nothing father thinks so any way. Has improved with rain alright

Zr105

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Walked reseed this morning. Not looking brilliant. Headlands are up really well and 4 leaves on most. Middle of field very patchy. Have something nipping top of new seedlings? Over run with fat hen. Few docks and chickweed but fat hen really taking over

Probably rabbits doing the nipping, they go mad for reseeds here...

Username John

mahoney_j wrote: »

Grazed mine this week with a cover of 700 on it,was struggling due to lack of rain but really thickened up in last 2 weeks. After rain.flying now after cows skint it.will graze again in 10 days and that's it till February .

When did you put it in Mahoney?

Greengrass1

Zr105 wrote: »

Probably rabbits doing the nipping, they go mad for reseeds here...

Very few rabbits here. Rarely see one. See a few pigeons in it though

mahoney_j

Username John wrote: »

When did you put it in Mahoney?

August bank holiday weekend.has got bag and a half of pasture sward followed by a bag of can before deadline shut and was sprayed with mcpa.very clean sward now.

just do it

mahoney_j wrote: »

August bank holiday weekend.has got bag and a half of pasture sward followed by a bag of can before deadline shut and was sprayed with mcpa.very clean sward now.

Straight MCPA? What dilution?

degetme

mahoney_j wrote: »

August bank holiday weekend.has got bag and a half of pasture sward followed by a bag of can before deadline shut and was sprayed with mcpa.very clean sward now.

Would you find mcpa severe on grass seedings? Uses pastor here. Find it a good job long term. However mcpa would be a great cost saving

Username John

Put in a few acres start Sept. Same as GreenGrass - feel that it's not doing super. The rain the past while has helped it a lot, before that it wasn't doing much.

Headland looks better, but I think there was more seed put out in it maybe...

mahoney_j

degetme wrote: »

Would you find mcpa severe on grass seedings? Uses pastor here. Find it a good job long term. However mcpa would be a great cost saving

4.5 Ltrs per he in 300 ltrs water.great kill on weeds and didn't check grass at all.no clover in mix though.thinking of broadcasting clover next summer.clover safe sprays too expensive and not as good.doing it this way allows a great chance to kill weeds early

mahoney_j

Username John wrote: »

Put in a few acres start Sept. Same as GreenGrass - feel that it's not doing super. The rain the past while has helped it a lot, before that it wasn't doing much.

Headland looks better, but I think there was more seed put out in it maybe...

Always feel it's better to go with new reseedes from mid July to mid August in autumn to give a good chance to spray and graze before winter and allow it to thicken.itll come alright though don't worry.any chance it could be frit fly nibbling at leaves gg

degetme

mahoney_j wrote: »

4.5 Ltrs per he in 300 ltrs water.great kill on weeds and didn't check grass at all.no clover in mix though.thinking of broadcasting clover next summer.clover safe sprays too expensive and not as good.doing it this way allows a great chance to kill weeds early

Dont sow clover here either in the last few years. Any clover safe sprays arent worth a fck imv

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

Always feel it's better to go with new reseedes from mid July to mid August in autumn to give a good chance to spray and graze before winter and allow it to thicken.itll come alright though don't worry.any chance it could be frit fly nibbling at leaves gg

Font frit eat leaves and the root? It would love some N but we know the story there

Username John

mahoney_j wrote: »

Always feel it's better to go with new reseedes from mid July to mid August in autumn to give a good chance to spray and graze before winter and allow it to thicken.itll come alright though don't worry.any chance it could be frit fly nibbling at leaves gg

Put in seed before in sept, and was very pleased with results. It turned out very clean, even tho it didn't get a post emergence spray. Reseeded in spring time, and this got a spray - but didn't come as clean.
Now - the main reason could be clover friendly sprays. But I like to include clover in the reseed.

Ah, I'll leave it come away and graze it in November sometime.

Zr105

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Very few rabbits here. Rarely see one. See a few pigeons in it though

Ah rite, was very few here in one spot but they seem to have increased an awful lot the last 2 year...

degetme wrote: »

Would you find mcpa severe on grass seedings? Uses pastor here. Find it a good job long term. However mcpa would be a great cost saving

Pastor does a great job alright, but a word of warning it's no longer approved for use on new lays, can only be used on older pasture now.....

dharn

Greengrass1 wrote: »

How long us yours sowed? Mines down 4 wks maybe im making a problem out of nothing father thinks so any way. Has improved with rain alright

Same here greengrass, in a month, great in lower part of field almost nothing in spots hard to understand why some seeds can grow 4 inches and som only emerging now, minimum till

just do it

mahoney_j wrote: »

4.5 Ltrs per he in 300 ltrs water.great kill on weeds and didn't check grass at all.no clover in mix though.thinking of broadcasting clover next summer.clover safe sprays too expensive and not as good.doing it this way allows a great chance to kill weeds early

You're braver than me. Farmer Pudsey uses it on reseeds as well

degetme

Zr105 wrote: »

Ah rite, was very few here in one spot but they seem to have increased an awful lot the last 2 year...



Pastor does a great job alright, but a word of warning it's no longer approved for use on new lays, can only be used on older pasture now.....

Yep i know that. Dont tell department man that tho
;-)

just do it

mahoney_j wrote: »

Always feel it's better to go with new reseedes from mid July to mid August in autumn to give a good chance to spray and graze before winter and allow it to thicken.itll come alright though don't worry.any chance it could be frit fly nibbling at leaves gg

Agree. Reseeded in sept last year and didn't get it grazed. In hindsight I should have topped it as cover was too heavy for grazing in spring.

just do it

Zr105 wrote: »

Pastor does a great job alright, but a word of warning it's no longer approved for use on new lays, can only be used on older pasture now.....

Do you know why?

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Font frit eat leaves and the root? It would love some N but we know the story there

Your message box is full gg - won't take a new pm

Zr105

just do it wrote: »

Do you know why?

Not sure to be honest. PCS numbers for chemicals are renewed each year and under this years renewal they(pastor and dockstar) werent approved for new lays.

Lambofdave

Username John wrote: »

Put in a few acres start Sept. Same as GreenGrass - feel that it's not doing super. The rain the past while has helped it a lot, before that it wasn't doing much.

Headland looks better, but I think there was more seed put out in it maybe...

what method of reseeding did you use?

Username John

Lambofdave wrote: »

what method of reseeding did you use?

It was reclaimed ground, so it was cleared with a digger, then left for a few weeks, sprayed, power harrowed and grass put it with a one pass.

It was very soft, could have done with a roll, but it's too high a field, so you would have done more harm than good trying to roll it.

just do it

Can you spot the difference?

This is last year's September reseed. One side was disc and power harrowed and the other only got the chain harrow. I'm standing on the dividing line

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

Can you spot the difference?

This is last year's September reseed. One side was disc and power harrowed and the other only got the chain harrow. I'm standing on the dividing line

Was that patchy like mine is now?

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Was that patchy like mine is now?

No. The tilled section was slower to grow if I remember rightly - but grew evenly. The main difference GG is my soil never really gets into moisture deficit even in a dry summer like this. I bet a fortnight after this rain will make a huge difference (please tell me you're getting rain at the moment!!!)

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

No. The tilled section was slower to grow if I remember rightly - but grew evenly. The main difference GG is my soil never really gets into moisture deficit even in a dry summer like this. I bet a fortnight after this rain will make a huge difference (please tell me you're getting rain at the moment!!!)

Ye I am good bit there tonight

sandydan

reseeded around 10th Aug ,no clover ,will sow in spring,slow coming so put watery slurry on it when light rain came ,finished grazing last monday,put more watery slurry on and its growing fine again , plenty rain now,must pick more small stones off though and roll again, wonder is rolling best left till spring

Lambofdave

drought screwed up some reseeds this year across all methods of reseeding

dharn

Hard to believe it happened 2 years in a row, whats the chances of 3 in a row ?

blue5000

JDI I'm guessing left hand side got discs?

just do it

blue5000 wrote: »

JDI I'm guessing left hand side got discs?

You win the prize . Absolutely no difference when you walk it. No evidence of dividing line either.

I said

just do it wrote: »

You win the prize . Absolutely no difference when you walk it. No evidence of dividing line either.

What did ya use on it for fertiliser during the year JDI?
Any slurry?Did ya cut silage of it this year.