Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning Linked in OP

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Would people take Hangeland as 4th choice CB? I suppose he'd count as the Mert cover.

Spanish Johnny

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Would people take Hangeland as 4th choice CB? I suppose he'd count as the Mert cover.

Yip - just saw he left on Twitter. Thought exact same thing. As good as 4th choice CB cover as you will get. A natural Mert replacement too as you say.

wonga77

Right, I was out all day and i spent a while reading the last few pages,

my conclusion -

Cesc Fabregas definitely pissed in Loopers cornflakes at some stage :pac:

greendom

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Dont know why everybody thinks that Fabregas is a super de duper DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER coz he aint. He has great positional awareness, good engine and can pass a ball very well and is very creative. However, he is not the biggest in the world and would not win much in the air and cant tackle all that well. I highly doubt Chelsea will take him unless they are selling Hazard to PSG or the like.

Agreed don't really think he's a Mourinho type of player. And with Oscar and Hazard on the books they have about as much need for him as we do.

.jacksparrow.

Daily mail reporting he has agreed terms with Chelsea.

enfant terrible

FACT: Since 2007, Cesc Fabregas has registered the most assists in the Premier League....he left in 2011.

https://twitter.com/BBCSporf/status/472780458716311552

Incredible stat.

enfant terrible

enfant terrible wrote: »

FACT: Since 2007, Cesc Fabregas has registered the most assists in the Premier League....he left in 2011.

https://twitter.com/BBCSporf/status/472780458716311552

Incredible stat.

He wont add to that with Chelsea if he goes. No way are they a good match for him under Mouriinho's regime.

jonneymendoza

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Daily mail reporting he has agreed terms with Chelsea.

****sakes. cesc stay at barca or join PSG!!

bad2dabone

I will be not pleased if fabregas goes to Chelsea. It'll be worse than van persie.

Wonda-Boy

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Would people take Hangeland as 4th choice CB? I suppose he'd count as the Mert cover.

I would rather Lescott over Hangeland personally.

.jacksparrow.

jonneymendoza wrote: »

****sakes. cesc stay at barca or join PSG!!

Chelsea with matic cesc hazard Willian and Costa, eek!

enfant terrible

Deleted User wrote: »

He wont add to that with Chelsea if he goes. No way are they a good match for him under Mouriinho's regime.

Couldn't see Fabregas playing under Mourinho or Wenger letting him go to Mourinho.

Matic and Fabregas with Costa, Willian and Hazard

Don't let it happen Wenger.

I honestly can't see him working with Jose. If he does go to Chelsea, it'll be the most surprising transfer since...

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Sol Campbell to us?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I honestly can't see him working with Jose. If he does go to Chelsea, it'll be the most surprising transfer since...

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Sol Campbell to us?

I could handle Fabregas at Tottenham because he sure wouldnt be going there for trophies but id be sick if i seen him join that horrible clown at Chelsea

enfant terrible

Deleted User wrote: »

I could handle Fabregas at Tottenham because he sure wouldnt be going there for trophies but id be sick if i seen him join that horrible clown at Chelsea

So can we all agree now Cesc must be brought home

Mr Blobby

Lads seriously!!
Its on the Daily Mail.. There worse than twitter ffs.

Mr Blobby

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Lads seriously!!
Its on the Daily Mail.. There worse than twitter ffs.

Yeah id imagine few if any deals will be done until after the World cup

jonneymendoza

ID rather arsenal get cesc in for 50m then to let him go to chelsea.

jonneymendoza

jonneymendoza wrote: »

ID rather arsenal get cesc in for 50m then to let him go to chelsea.

He's not worth that though. Its a risky road we are going down if we start buying players to stop them going to Chelsea. Id hate to see him at Chelsea but im not sure we should buy him for the sake of stopping him going to rivals either.

Id like him back and i get the injuries argument that some are suggesting but i think were overcrowded with AM's. As for the injuries its high time we actually got to the bottom of them instead of just shrugging the shoulders

salmocab

Chelsea only after him so no one else gets him, probably loan him out to an Australian team for 4 years hoping that everyone forgets he exists

salmocab

salmocab wrote: »

Chelsea only after him so no one else gets him, probably loan him out to an Australian team for 4 years hoping that everyone forgets he exists

They definitely done that with Wright-Philips back in 2005. Drove the price sky high and had no more use for him then the man in the moon.

.jacksparrow.

Santi doing some tapping up:)

Cazorla on Fabregas

"I've read that he could go to Chelsea but I'd prefer him to come to Arsenal because he's a great player and they really love him there.

"I don't know what his future is, but I hope that he will be happy and enjoys the team wherever he is."

greendom

I can't work out which is more likely?

A Is it Mourinho desperate to get one over Wenger, or

B Fabregas courting Mourinho in the hope that Arsenal will counter-bid rather than let him go to Chelsea

Mr Blobby

Well he doesn't really matter if Chelsea bid.. We have first refusal anyway.

I'd say Wenger wants to see what Chelsea will do first.

Ol' Donie

I'd be absolutely sick if Cesc went to Chelsea. Half because he was my favourite player since Henry, and I'd love to see him back, and half because it would make one of our rivals considerably stronger while our transfer money just sits in the bank.

C'mere to me... Is the buyback clause only applicable IF another team bids for him? For some reason it's sounding familiar to me.

L'prof

[Deleted User] wrote: »

C'mere to me... Is the buyback clause only applicable IF another team bids for him? For some reason it's sounding familiar to me.

As far as I know it's a first refusal, so yeah.

Spanish Johnny

Deleted User wrote: »

C'mere to me... Is the buyback clause only applicable IF another team bids for him? For some reason it's sounding familiar to me.

That is my understanding of it too. If we bid 34 million Barca can reject if they do not want to sell. Clause has no impact there.

However if Barca accept any offer for Fabregas, say 45 million from Chelsea then Arsenal have an option to take him at 25 or 30 million. That is my understanding. Could be wrong.

And we get a percentage of the transfer fee if he goes somewhere else.

Skylinehead

Deleted User wrote: »

I could handle Fabregas at Tottenham

Wonda-Boy

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

And we get a percentage of the transfer fee if he goes somewhere else.

No good to us that.....we cant even spend what we have ffs :rolleyes:

So it's in OUR interest for the stories of Cesc going to Chelsea et al?

If he came out and said he wanted to go back to Arsenal, no other clubs would bother bidding, right?

So hopefully he leads Chelsea up the garden path, they put in a bid and we gazump them.

Good stuff.

Mr Blobby

First refusal means that if Chelsea bid say 30M and Barcelona accept, then they have to tell us about Chelsea's bid and have to accept our bid if we match Chelsea's.

Hope that clears things up.

Quazzie

I cannot describe how pissed off I will be if Cesc moves to Chelsea. That should NEVER be allowed happen. :mad:

Looper007

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

"If I ever wear a Chelsea shirt, you have the permission to kill me" - Cesc Fabregas in 2010

:)

Until they pay me 300,000 thousand a week :rolleyes:

I don't like all that talk when players sprout that rubbish cause money talks and bull**** walks.

I just be shocked if he did move to Chelsea, seen as Jose laid the boot in on him during a El classic. But it wouldn't be that shocking.

I see Man Utd been the only place he go too.

Alfred Borden

http://vimeo.com/97240849


:pac:

Alfred Borden

If you got a spare 20 minutes, this is well worth the watch. I think I have really under appreciated him this season. Some of the stuff he does in this video is epic and does so much stuff that goes unnoticed. Get him a few outlets and he is gonna tear it up. Still seems surreal saying this but we have got Mesut Ozil

Hyzepher

It was about 17 mins into that video before they showed a goal. Up to that it was chance after chance created by Ozil - a world class striker would put his stats through the roof.

bad2dabone

And yet I see a headline on the back of the star today "flop ozil ruined by gunners". Such a rag, makes my blood boil.

Alfred Borden

World's top fitness coach to be appointed. Now this is the signing of the summer!
http://goonertalk.com/2014/06/04/arsenal-expected-to-appoint-worlds-top-fitness-coach-from-german-national-team/#ixzz33eWQ5M11

CatInABox

Raf32 wrote: »

World's top fitness coach to be appointed. Now this is the signing of the summer!
http://goonertalk.com/2014/06/04/arsenal-expected-to-appoint-worlds-top-fitness-coach-from-german-national-team/#ixzz33eWQ5M11

If it means that we cut our injury rate by 30% or so, then this will be without doubt the signing of the summer.

Wonda-Boy

bad2dabone wrote: »

And yet I see a headline on the back of the star today "flop ozil ruined by gunners". Such a rag, makes my blood boil.

In fairness Ozil did have a stinker in Germanys game against Cameroon, but I highly doubt its anything to do with joining the gunners.

Hopefully he can come good soon and show what a quality player he is.

dvemail

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

In fairness Ozil did have a stinker in Germanys game against Cameroon, but I highly doubt its anything to do with joining the gunners.

Hopefully he can come good soon and show what a quality player he is.

Watched that match, he was poor alright but had no outlet.
Germany started with Goetze up front, only person on that team who can make those runs for Ozil to pick out is Reus.

ugsparky

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Looks like a DM position to me. That midfield would be steamrolled by any side with aggression and good tackling midfielders. We desperately need a "Claude Makelele" of old.

But if you had quoted my entire post I did say Cesc + a defensive midfielder ... even named Khedira and Flamini among the subs and invited the chance for people to interchange ... it could have been ...

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Khedira

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Ozil

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Ramsey

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Cesc---

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Greizmann

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Giroud

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... or any number of permutations depending on factors such as home advantage, agregate score, defending a lead ...

... my point was we could sign Cesc, Khedira/Sneiderlin, Remy and Greizmann, plus a GK and RB for £10m and we would then look like a complete squad with many permutations ...

... we are losing Fabianski & Sagna ... maybe Coquelin, Arteta, Rosicky, Diaby, Flamini ... not sure about Djourou ... and we are suppossedly able to spend £100m if Arsene chooses to do so ... transfer money/wages saved added to that ... I don't think what I'm suggesting is too far off the mark ... and I just have a sneaking feeling Arsene prefers a Remy/Giroud/Greizmann/Walcott/Podolski/ scenario - to further develop and improve Giroud ...

I would seriously fancy our chances against any team with this squad of players

.jacksparrow.

Marca reporting he passed a medical at Chelsea.

Please god no.

dvemail

Whatever happens we are going to have a big summer transfer wise. Quotes from Wenger from when he signed his contract. Don't think i've ever seen him so bullish over any possible dealings.

‘We know we have to have a successful June and July, that’s where you strengthen the team,’

‘It’s very important that we are good now in the next two months until the end of August, that we can give to the team some more quality and go into next season with the belief we got from [the FA Cup] win.

‘Should the fans expect a big summer? Yes, they should expect that.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Do now that's the Daily Mail, and Marca.

keano_afc

The last time Wenger said we'd have a busy summer we lost 17 players and brought in 2.

12gauge dave

Since joining barcelona cesc has played

151games

42 goals

48 assists


That is WORLD CLASS stats considering he hasnt settled greatly and barca have had 2 bad seasons and he is fighting for a place in one of if not the best midfields in the world.

Why any of you would not want him back is beyond me. There is enough cash there so get him back hes only just turned 27 aswell so wed have at least 4 top draw seasons out of him.

Looper007

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Marca reporting he passed a medical at Chelsea.

Please god no.

I'd be shocked but not surprised if he joined them to be honest, money talks to footballers these days. I would have thought a kick in the head by Jose would have turned any player off joining his teams.

If we are going to sign him , get it done and dusted soon. I don't want any of you having fits and heart attacks if he joins any other English team. I just don't think it's the end of the world for us, he's not set the world alight at Barca and how do we know he's going to be the same player if we do take him back. We are only assuming he come back and set the world alight.

Looper007

12gauge dave wrote: »

Since joining barcelona cesc has played

151games

42 goals

48 assists


That is WORLD CLASS stats considering he hasnt settled greatly and barca have had 2 bad seasons and he is fighting for a place in one of if not the best midfields in the world.

Why any of you would not want him back is beyond me. There is enough cash there so get him back hes only just turned 27 aswell so wed have at least 4 top draw seasons out of him.

Why aren't Barca then not keeping him if they are world class stats? What with Xavi nearing the end of his career are not keeping this "world class" talent. I'm not knocking you but I just don't buy it. He must not been impressing anyone if he's getting let go.