Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning Linked in OP

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Mr Blobby wrote: »

Wilshere and Gerrard can't both play side by side. Wilshere needs to be given the freedom to go forward without having to worry about leaving a huge gap in the middle. He can't do that with England since Gerrard can't defend for ****.

England shouldn't even be playing 4-2-3-1 since they don't have either a holding mid or creative holding player e.g Pirlo/Arteta

First time i ever saw pirlo and arteta mentioned in the same league

gnfnrhead

It's Twitter so I'd usually ignore it, but the person is question is a good friend of Alexis Sanchez and he says Sanchez has an offer from us.

Pinch of salt etc etc.

Soups123

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I'd rather this. Really reduces the chances of injury and allows our players a bit of a summer break.

Yeah but it also says a lot about the deterioration of the quality of players in our squad

Wonda-Boy

Looper007 wrote: »

Then time for manager to show some steel and drop Gerrard, what has he actually done in the last two games. Play Henderson there, let Wilshire do his stuff. But they won't have the balls to do it, that's the problem. I agree England are playing it way to safe. As Dunphy called Hodgson a Civil Servant, afraid to step out of line and try something new.

Even nothing to do with Gerrard being at fault along with Cahill (which I feel sorry for coz the lad is a quality defender) Gerrard offers nothing to England. He is all hollywood side passes. No leadership at all, the odd clap and rally. No pace, you can count the amount of slide tackles he did against Uruguay on one finger never mind one hand. Very few forward passes and no creativity what so ever.....never should have played. He cant even track players, no running at all. Back up at best, Lampard would have been a better bet.

I really like the lad but he is just not up to it anymore, same for club.

gosplan

gnfnrhead wrote: »

It's Twitter so I'd usually ignore it, but the person is question is a good friend of Alexis Sanchez and he says Sanchez has an offer from us.

Pinch of salt etc etc.

I'm telling ya.

Wenger thinks like me - pace and creativity needed on the left.

---

Arteta/Flamini - Ramsey/Wilshire
Walcott/Chambo - Ozil/Cazorla - Sanchez/Pod

---

Giroud/Sanogo

Other players that might make an impact but can't be relied on Rosicky/Diaby/Gnabry/Campbell

The clear weak links are still our second striker and DMF but the above team gives a lot of options and different ways to play depending on the opposition. I think if we really went for the best RB we could find, I'd be happy starting the season with the above.

dvemail

What a coup it would be to pick up Electric Sanchez.
Could play on the left, right, up top. Would also be the perfect partner for Giroud if we went 4-4-2.

Marty McFly

Are we allowed to dream of Sanchez and Balotelli?

50 million should be close enough for the two of them, 10 million for Aurier and a few more million for a DM one can dream.

TimeToShine

Marty McFly wrote: »

Are we allowed to dream of Sanchez and Balotelli?

50 million should be close enough for the two of them, 10 million for Aurier and a few more million for a DM one can dream.

Perfect outcome.

jonneymendoza

give liverpool 100m for Suarez please. he will single handedly win us the dam league!

gosplan

Marty McFly wrote: »

Are we allowed to dream of Sanchez and Balotelli?

50 million should be close enough for the two of them, 10 million for Aurier and a few more million for a DM one can dream.

I doubt we'll get that much but it would be amazing.

I mean i know Wenger's always a bit iffy about adding too many players but the RB could be the only person straight into the starting 11.

You could go

Wally - Ozil - Caz

---

Balo

or if Wally's still injured

Ozil - Caz - Sanchez
----Giroud


*sigh* why do we do this to ourselves?

Pudders

gosplan wrote: »

I'm telling ya.

Wenger thinks like me - pace and creativity needed on the left.

---

Arteta/Flamini - Ramsey/Wilshire
Walcott/Chambo - Ozil/Cazorla - Sanchez/Pod

---

Giroud/Sanogo

Other players that might make an impact but can't be relied on Rosicky/Diaby/Gnabry/Campbell

The clear weak links are still our second striker and DMF but the above team gives a lot of options and different ways to play depending on the opposition. I think if we really went for the best RB we could find, I'd be happy starting the season with the above.

Sanogo is a donkey. He shouldn't be near the squad let alone the team.

bad2dabone

Marty McFly wrote: »

Are we allowed to dream of Sanchez and Balotelli?

50 million should be close enough for the two of them, 10 million for Aurier and a few more million for a DM one can dream.

makes perfect sense to me

greendom

Pudders wrote: »

Sanogo is a donkey. He shouldn't be near the squad let alone the team.

Jury still out for me - he could become decent, time will tell. Could do with a loan spell at a Championship club perhaps.

farna_boy

Rumour at the moment is Suarez is off to Barca for 52M so it could free up a player to move away..

Chucky the tree

farna_boy wrote: »

Rumour at the moment is Suarez is off to Barca for 52M so it could free up a player to move away..

If he's moving for £52m it will mean Liverpool are getting Sanchez as part of the deal.

greendom

€52 million is quite low, I would have thought at least 20m more.

gandalf

greendom wrote: »

€52 million is quite low, I would have thought at least 20m more.

Could be a special Real Madrid/Barca break clause £52,000,001 :P

gosplan

farna_boy wrote: »

Rumour at the moment is Suarez is off to Barca for 52M so it could free up a player to move away..

You shouldn't even entertain this rubbish.

bad2dabone

Chucky the tree wrote: »

If he's moving for £52m it will mean Liverpool are getting Sanchez as part of the deal.

Rumoured to be a clause in his contract for a 53m release for barca or real. However from a friend of mine who's an expert on all things Barcelona and is a real font of knowledge on Spanish Football:

“There are 2 main football rags in BCN… Sport and MundoDeportivo.
Yesterday, there was a poll in Sport showing how unhappy everyone was with the current running of the club / shaping of the squad.
Last night, Suarez was the main name in world football conversations.

This morning, MD (puppets for the board) have a story saying the Suarez-to-Barca deal is well advanced, and could include Alexis.
Coincidence ?

Suarez is not what FCB need at all. That doesn’t mean they won’t go for him, but I’m pretty sure RM are going to push the boat out for him, and that’s where he’ll end up.
I don’t think FCB have the money to compete, and I’m sure Perez has done the groundwork on the deal already“

I’d trust him on it.

Mickeroo

Marty McFly wrote: »

Are we allowed to dream of Sanchez and Balotelli?

50 million should be close enough for the two of them, 10 million for Aurier and a few more million for a DM one can dream.

Shtap it, if we got Aurier, Balo and Sanchez plus a CB I wouldn't even be mad if we missed out on a DM. Also Stephane Mbia is a free agent btw, mark my words :P

Pudders wrote: »

Sanogo is a donkey. He shouldn't be near the squad let alone the team.

Harsh, he may not have scored yet but he's played well everytime he's been called upon, which has mostly been in big games, his mentality is very impressive for someone with so little experience at that level. Made a big difference when he came on in Wembley and even though he's a big lad he offers something different to Giroud.

He's nowhere near good enough to be 2nd choice striker but I'd be delighted to have our choices up front next season to be Balo/Giroud/Campbell/Sanogo (with Sanchez and Theo and Pod able to a job there too if needed obviously ).

bad2dabone

Regarding sanogo:
Pro:
He’s a physical presence
Con:
He seems to have no relationship with the ball
Pro:
He’s got a great attitude (judging from his Social Media interractions)
Con:
He’s taken air shots
Pro:
He’s still very young, could develop into a beast, not everyone is the finished article at 21
Con:
He actually had an Air Header in the FA Cup final
Pro:
He can score goals – check youtube for some special ones
Con:
He just hasn’t scored yet for arsenal
Pro:
He seems to be able to play well with Giroud in a 442
Con:
He’s been over a year out injured at his age, and it shows in his development.

While a loan might do him good he needs games, he needs to be loaned to a team who’ll play him regularly.
Otherwise he’s better staying with us and learning off the first team, taking his sub opportunities.

Gringo180

If Sanogo makes it at Arsenal I will eat my hat. He has to be technically the most unpolished player I have ever seen wear the jersey.

Mr Blobby

Marty McFly wrote: »

Are we allowed to dream of Sanchez and Balotelli?

50 million should be close enough for the two of them, 10 million for Aurier and a few more million for a DM one can dream.

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that..

Including the transfer fee,wages and Agent fee we'd be paying a lot more.

Marty McFly

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that..

Including the transfer fee,wages and Agent fee we'd be paying a lot more.

It's still affordable for Arsenal money is not the issue really we have it but will we spend it, will Wenger bring in that many players will he do what to everyone makes senses as its the holes in the squad we need to fill.

The heart hopes yes and it is very doable but being Arsenal the likelihood of it actually happening are very slim. The Ozil signing of last summer gives me a slight glimmer of hope.

greendom

Ivanovic would be a solid replacement for Sagna....

latest rumour doing the rounds but I very much doubt Mourinho would sell to us

Topbike77

greendom wrote: »

Ivanovic would be a solid replacement for Sagna....

latest rumour doing the rounds but I very much doubt Mourinho would sell to us

He's 30 do ide rather get someone who will do us for a good few years.

greendom

Ronan14 wrote: »

He's 30 do ide rather get someone who will do us for a good few years.

He'd be ideal as it would give Jenkinson more time to mature.

Gringo180

Keep an eye out for the Italian right back Ignazio Abate, terrific player would love to see him at Arsenal.

AdamD

Joel Campbell is looking very good, should have had a pen there. Looks like he could be an option anywhere in our front 3

Gringo180

AdamD wrote: »

Joel Campbell is looking very good, should have had a pen there. Looks like he could be an option anywhere in our front 3

He looks twice the player Ballotelli does. It seems when its not going Marios way he doesnt want to know.

brianregan09

Campbell could be the left winger we're crying out for

Mr Blobby

Gringo180 wrote: »

He looks twice the player Ballotelli does. It seems when its not going Marios way he doesnt want to know.

Balotelli's done ok so far.
Yeah, he missed one chance but he's been a constant threat running behind Costa Rica.

Gringo180

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Balotelli's done ok so far.
Yeah, he missed one chance but he's been a constant threat running behind Costa Rica.

He is but he seems disinterested when things arent going right for him.

greendom

Gringo180 wrote: »

He is but he seems disinterested when things arent going right for him.

And disinterest turns to petulance. TBH I'd want a more reliable character for such a huge wedge. He just can't be relied upon

Gringo180

greendom wrote: »

And disinterest turns to petulance. TBH I'd want a more reliable character for such a huge wedge. He just can't be relied upon

The reason why I would rather the likes of Sanchez. If things arent going his way he will drop deep and put himself about and try and make things happen.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Many posters seem to be raving about balotelli.
I don't know much about him other than when he played for City.
He seems to be very skillful and a good goal-scorer but he also struck me as a bit lazy, very temperamental and always on the verge of a hissy fit.
Don't think he's Wenger's type of player at all.
Maybe he's changed.

Well after looking at the Italian game against Costa Rica it is clear to me that Balotelli is still the same petulant and moody player. He did nothing much in this game except squander chances and roll about on the floor. When his team needed him he was not up to it.
I don't think he is the type of player we want at all. He doesn't put his body on the line and as they say" when the going gets tough, the tough get going" and Balotelli is not that kind of player so i don't want him. I want a do or die kind of player.

Mickeroo

Ollie is starting for France.

Wonda-Boy

Yeah I agree with Tayto, stay well clear. Id sign him only as a very last resort, he just does not work for the team and does not want to know when he needs to work. Be different if we were getting him on the cheap but he is gonna cost us the earth in both transfer fee and wages.

Irish Aris

oh, the donkey scored for France!!!! :rolleyes:

Irish Aris

Irish Aris wrote: »

oh, the donkey scored for France!!!! :rolleyes:

And a player on loan from Fulham scored earlier for Costa Rica, your point?

Irish Aris

Deleted User wrote: »

And a player on loan from Fulham scored earlier for Costa Rica, your point?

no point, just stating a fact.
Giroud, who certain people in here call him a donkey, scored a goal for France.

Irish Aris

Irish Aris wrote: »

no point

Thought that.

Mr Blobby

Irish Aris wrote: »

no point, just stating a fact.
Giroud, who certain people in here call him a donkey, scored a goal for France.

Na, Giroud is far from a Donkey.

Now to two CBs for Switzerland..

Mickeroo

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Na, Giroud is far from a Donkey.

Now to two CBs for Switzerland..

One of which kept Kosc out of the starting line up for a season

Djourou is officially gone isn't he?

batistuta9

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Djourou is officially gone isn't he?

Pretty much, 1st July

Pepe LeFrits

Mickeroo wrote: »

One of which kept Kosc out of the starting line up for a season

wut

Mickeroo

Deleted User wrote: »

Djourou is officially gone isn't he?

3m transfer to Hamburg in April.

Mr Blobby

I've been told that if I buy a France jersey with *Giroud 9* on the back, my attractiveness will go up by 65%

So if Vermaelen goes have we got any other CB options at all? Seems like a pretty gaping hole tbh.


Just looking at the fixtures there, opening 7 matches includes City, Everton, Spurs and Chelsea along with a League Cup match and CL qualifiers. A strong start is massive and if we're still done nothing of note by this time next month it's hard to see it happen.