Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning Linked in OP

greendom

egghead. wrote: »

Obviously Liverpool playing hard ball.

There's plenty of time for their stance to soften. It's not as if Suarez will be playing for anyone, anytime soon.

AdamD

Player swaps are a mythical occurrence created by the daily mail

jonneymendoza

Could we see another Bale incident where Bale(Suarez in this case) goes for a stupid price and we get Ozil(Sanchez in this case) to help fund some of funds used to buy Bale(Suarez in this case).

Thoughts?

greendom

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Could we see another Bale incident where Bale(Suarez in this case) goes for a stupid price and we get Ozil(Sanchez in this case) to help fund some of funds used to buy Bale(Suarez in this case).

Thoughts?

It will probably end up being a last minute deal again, which will drive everyone to distraction.

Mr Blobby

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Ah, no way he carries him.
More like they complement each other.

"Your socks are lovely today."
"Not as nice as yours."

Ed Winchester

Graham Hunter spouts so much ****e. Every now and again, by the law of averages, he gets something right. But by and large it's all crap.

He told anyone who'd listen that Cesc to Barca was a done deal for 5 summers. Of course at some stage he was going to be right.

Can't stand him.

keano_afc

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Graham Hunter spouts so much ****e. Every now and again, by the law of averages, he gets something right. But by and large it's all crap.

He told anyone who'd listen that Cesc to Barca was a done deal for 5 summers. Of course at some stage he was going to be right.

Can't stand him.

Finally. Thought I was the only one. He's a clown. Generally if he has an opinion on a transfer I believe the opposite.

greendom

keano_afc wrote: »

Finally. Thought I was the only one. He's a clown. Generally if he has an opinion on a transfer I believe the opposite.

Such a Barca sycophant as well

Ed Winchester

It's just how he says things. So matter of fact, like he's a personal mate with all parties involved, that gets on my tits.

Some man to name drop too.

Grrrrrr.....

gosplan

Just some Remy facts:

1: he's 27
2: when he was 25-26 he signed for QPR because they offered him more money
3: he's only hit 1 in 2 for the last season at Newcastle. He never hit that total in France
4: he averages a little over 20 games a season across his whole career, not sure if this is due to injury or bench warming but it's poor
5: no one whatsoever seems to be, or has been, in for him apart from Newcastle and QPR

I really think that this is a fairly mediocre player and not the type we want with us.

Is anyone here basing the 'we must sign him' argument in anything apart from his decent Newcastle record over a tiny sample (cough Ba and Cisse cough cough) and that slick goal he scored for QPR?

If so can you fill me in?

I mean he's been on offer for a few years since he didn't make it at Lyon. Europe's clubs have seen this guy and passed up on him. What else are people here seeing?

Soups123

AdamD wrote: »

Player swaps are a mythical occurrence created by the daily mail

This + 1000 they never happen yet ever window papers make it up and people believe

Mythical is the right description

egghead.

Ozil really needs runners ahead of him, same story with this German team.

Gringo180

gosplan wrote: »

Just some Remy facts:

1: he's 27
2: when he was 25-26 he signed for QPR because they offered him more money
3: he's only hit 1 in 2 for the last season at Newcastle. He never hit that total in France
4: he averages a little over 20 games a season across his whole career, not sure if this is due to injury or bench warming but it's poor
5: no one whatsoever seems to be, or has been, in for him apart from Newcastle and QPR

I really think that this is a fairly mediocre player and not the type we want with us.

Is anyone here basing the 'we must sign him' argument in anything apart from his decent Newcastle record over a tiny sample (cough Ba and Cisse cough cough) and that slick goal he scored for QPR?

If so can you fill me in?

I mean he's been on offer for a few years since he didn't make it at Lyon. Europe's clubs have seen this guy and passed up on him. What else are people here seeing?

If he signed for us he would score 20+ league goals. Would be a slight upgrade on Giroud in my opinion.

patrickc

nice goal from Ozil

Fuzzy_Dunlop

The amount of attention Ozil garners when a team isn't playing well is crazy. He's always singled out even when everyone is playing poorly.

Ed Winchester

patrickc wrote: »

nice goal from Ozil

That'll do him the world of good. He worked his socks off tonight.

Alfred Borden

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

The amount of attention Ozil garners when a team isn't playing well is crazy. He's always singled out even when everyone is playing poorly.

Suppose thats the pressure that comes with being as good as he is, every team would want him. The bitterness in that thread when he scored

dvemail

I don't know what people expected from Ozil tonight.
He was played on the left wing for most of the match. Not exactly his best position.

greendom

Played 120 minutes tonight as well. Thought he couldn't play more than 65 - 70?

jonneymendoza

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

The amount of attention Ozil garners when a team isn't playing well is crazy. He's always singled out even when everyone is playing poorly.

rubbish. i can have fun ripping his stats alone for tonight.

His passing for instance was awful be surprised if he even got above 60& pass accuracy

dvemail

greendom wrote: »

Played 120 minutes tonight as well. Thought he couldn't play more than 65 - 70?

And ran his socks off till the end.
He can do it when he is bothered.

tayto lover

Raf32 wrote: »

Suppose thats the pressure that comes with being as good as he is, every team would want him. The bitterness in that thread when he scored

Great craic though.

jonneymendoza

gosplan wrote: »

Just some Remy facts:

1: he's 27
2: when he was 25-26 he signed for QPR because they offered him more money
3: he's only hit 1 in 2 for the last season at Newcastle. He never hit that total in France
4: he averages a little over 20 games a season across his whole career, not sure if this is due to injury or bench warming but it's poor
5: no one whatsoever seems to be, or has been, in for him apart from Newcastle and QPR

I really think that this is a fairly mediocre player and not the type we want with us.

Is anyone here basing the 'we must sign him' argument in anything apart from his decent Newcastle record over a tiny sample (cough Ba and Cisse cough cough) and that slick goal he scored for QPR?

If so can you fill me in?

I mean he's been on offer for a few years since he didn't make it at Lyon. Europe's clubs have seen this guy and passed up on him. What else are people here seeing?

yea forget him.

get Sanchez. 45m sorted.

then another 45m for that James Rodriguez bloke from colombia/Morocco

Alfred Borden

jonneymendoza wrote: »

rubbish. i can have fun ripping his stats alone for tonight.

His passing for instance was awful be surprised if he even got above 60& pass accuracy

Ozil - 1 goal, 4 chances created in open play & 88% pass accuracy with all 59/67 completed in the middle or final third

Dapics

The absolute idiocy of Collins when near the end of the match, he said Ozil had been "disappointing".

It's not his fault his teammates weren't putting away Ozils excellent passes. Think the cross to Muller.

jonneymendoza

Raf32 wrote: »

Ozil - 1 goal, 4 chances created in open play & 88% pass accuracy with all 59/67 completed in the middle or final third

link to that pass accuracy.

nonsense IMO as i saw soo many miss-placed passes

Soups123

Raf32 wrote: »

Ozil - 1 goal, 4 chances created in open play & 88% pass accuracy with all 59/67 completed in the middle or final third

Bbbbbooooooooommmm

Mr Blobby

Ozil had an amazing game when compared to Kroos and Gotze.

AdamD

They tend to weight goals rather heavily though

bad2dabone

Haters


Gonna


Hate

EuropeanSon

jonneymendoza wrote: »

link to that pass accuracy.

nonsense IMO as i saw soo many miss-placed passes

You might've seen 8. That would seem like loads if you didn't notice the 59 that weren't misplaced.

farna_boy

Dapics wrote: »

The absolute idiocy of Collins when near the end of the match, he said Ozil had been "disappointing".

It's not his fault his teammates weren't putting away Ozils excellent passes. Think the cross to Muller.

It all comes back to Mourinho's comments about him being the best number 10 in the world. The fact that Ozil was playing for him seems to get lost on everyone, and we all know the "mind games" the Mourinho plays.

Ozil is a fantastic player, but will never get the goals that the other "best number 10's" have in the past. He probably is as creative as all of them, but he plays a little deeper and looks to give that one pass rather than create an opportunity for himself. But because he was given that label and the perception/expectation that goes along with all that, when he doesn't score the Zidane/Maradonna type goals, all of a sudden he is disappointing, despite whatever else he has done throughout the match.

Alfred Borden

jonneymendoza wrote: »

link to that pass accuracy.

nonsense IMO as i saw soo many miss-placed passes

On twitter. His passes werent as bad as people are making out, not his usual standard but still one of the best on the pitch. Playing out the wing isnt helping him.

the untitled user

I don't know how people can think Ozil had a bad game tonight. He played a very disciplined game on the wing, largely pulling the fullback wide to create space for the overlapping runs from his team mates. If anything, he was a bit unlucky, watch the highlights of Germany's main chances and Ozil is in acres on the left side of the box for each of them, the rest of his team mates were simply too direct to try and find him.

Flagged a bit around the 70th minute mark but found his second wind not long after Germany's goal and overall, pressed more than I've ever seen from him before.

extra gravy

And so it begins! Guessing that the colour behind each player represents the colour and design of each kit. 3 different neck lines. Official launch on July 10th

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20140630/puma-and-arsenal-partnership-begins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjJIE5-W514

:pac: Player manager for next season perhaps? :pac:

gosplan

Gringo180 wrote: »

If he signed for us he would score 20+ league goals. Would be a slight upgrade on Giroud in my opinion.

He's a slightly younger Odemwinge.

There have got to be 10-20 better strikers we can get.

batistuta9

gosplan wrote: »

He's a slightly younger Odemwinge.

There have got to be 10-20 better strikers we can get.

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Marty McFly

I'm baffled Remy eh


Fans: Come on Arsenal were a big club we should be winning the league.

Some the same fans: Sign Remy.

A mediocre player who has had a mediocre career and never had one top club go for him the mind boggles sometimes.

Also I'll say it now we will never sign Remy not unless it the last day of the window and were desperate.

Gringo180

Marty McFly wrote: »

I'm baffled Remy eh


Fans: Come on Arsenal were a big club we should be winning the league.

Some the same fans: Sign Remy.

A mediocre player who has had a mediocre career and never had one top club go for him the mind boggles sometimes.

Also I'll say it now we will never sign Remy not unless it the last day of the window and were desperate.

Bit harsh on the lad to be fair. Its his style of play that would want him to sign for us, bucket loads of pace who loves to make runs in behind and is a lethal finisher. Marseille paid big money for him and everywhere hes has gone he has scored goals at around a 40% strike rate. I think he would be a goal every 2 games striker for us with the likes of Ozil supplying him.

As for no big club been in for him, that could be to do with the fact he has a heart defect.

gosplan

batistuta9 wrote: »

PL proven & in a similar price range, go:

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So if I can't name a player, he doesn't exist?


Why PL proven and the price range though?

TimeToShine

Gringo180 wrote: »

Bit harsh on the lad to be fair. Its his style of play that would want him to sign for us, bucket loads of pace who loves to make runs in behind and is a lethal finisher. Marseille paid big money for him and everywhere hes has gone he has scored goals at around a 40% strike rate. I think he would be a goal every 2 games striker for us with the likes of Ozil supplying him.

As for no big club been in for him, that could be to do with the fact he has a heart defect.

Not to be cruel but WTF, we have enough injury problems as it is without bringing genetic defects into it! And are we not considered a big club?

gosplan

TimeToShine wrote: »

Not to be cruel but WTF, we have enough injury problems as it is without bringing genetic defects into it!

This is true.

People have spent years complaining about the deadwood and injury prone players and now we HAVE to sign a player who really shouldn't be considered part of our future plans, would be impossible to get rid of, on the guts of 100k pw plus he has a heart problem.

Ken Shamrock

Yeah Remy is a bad choice IMO, Sanchez would be fantastic but let's be honest can you see us getting him? I can't, prob be stuck with Giroud, Sanogo and Campbell in all honesty, although i've always wondered why he never gives Podolski a go up front, he'd be much better there than the LW, also we have Walcott back for pace.

Mickeroo

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Yeah Remy is a bad choice IMO, Sanchez would be fantastic but let's be honest can you see us getting him? I can't, prob be stuck with Giroud, Sanogo and Campbell in all honesty, although i've always wondered why he never gives Podolski a go up front, he'd be much better there than the LW, also we have Walcott back for pace.

He's tried Pod up front a few times, Sanogo is better than him in that role tbh. He needs someone to play off, Pod just isn't a lone striker.

Ken Shamrock

Mickeroo wrote: »

He's tried Pod up front a few times, Sanogo is better than him in that role tbh. He needs someone to play off, Pod just isn't a lone striker.

Yeah i've seen him there a handful of times for like halve a game or 60 mins, i don't think he's really been given a chance to get into that role, he cud play off Ozil, some nice give and go's, simple stuff, and with walcott and chambo sprinting down both wings drilling balls in i much rather podolski in there than sanago, podolski has the killer instinct and a great finish.

ronjo

tayto lover wrote: »

Great craic though.

Just read through that thread. .Some fans are hilarious

Gringo180

TimeToShine wrote: »

Not to be cruel but WTF, we have enough injury problems as it is without bringing genetic defects into it! And are we not considered a big club?

Of course were a big club. Its the same heart defect that Kanu had when he wasnt wanted anymore by Milan and look how that worked out. Pretty sure Diame has the same defect it doesnt effect there career at all.

batistuta9

gosplan wrote: »

So if I can't name a player, he doesn't exist?


Why PL proven and the price range though?

maybe they do. though you reckon there's 10-20 of them, yet don't name any alternative

PL proven & price range;
two things, the first that he's capable of adapting to and scoring in england, some players need time to settle in & others it just doesn't work for.
i mentioned long & jelevaic in another post, 14-16mil combined, van wolfswinkle 8.5m scored 1 goal on the opening day of the season.

and the second is that it allows arsenal to spend the majority of the budget elsewhere and still get a decent player who'd be a good addition
striker ~30m
dm ~20
rb ~10
cb ~7
gk ~3 (if even)
remy 8-10m

remy is value at his price, you have to admit that. brings pace & goals, could play anywhere in the front 3.

gosplan

Gringo180 wrote: »

Of course were a big club. Its the same heart defect that Kanu had when he wasnt wanted anymore by Milan and look how that worked out. Pretty sure Diame has the same defect it doesnt effect there career at all.

I dunno the reason but it's less than 200 club appearances for a player going 28.