Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning Linked in OP

omega man

Was anticipating a load of Sanchez talk etc when I saw all the new pages in here!! To my disgust it was all feckin pool drivel. I really wouldn't take the bait lads, it's not worth the inevitable pollution of this thread.

wandatowell

I don't think a player of Sanchez's quality would like to be used a make weight is any Suarez deal.

The Pool should just try to do two seperate deals. or jusy fcuk off and leave us Sanchez

smileyj1987

Raf32 wrote: »

if anyone fancies a laugh...
https://twitter.com/LivEchoLFC/status/485004611720577024

:pac:

Ah now your fans petition was even funnier last year .

Alfred Borden

Linked to Khedira today, would he be a better option over Bender/morgan?

emergingstar

Don't see why people get the knickers in a twist over Liverpool fans

Banter is great craic

gandalf

emergingstar wrote: »

Don't see why people get the knickers in a twist over Liverpool fans

Banter is great craic

I like Liverpool fans, most are very knowledgeable about Soccer. They do tend to get a bit emotional at times though, but that is a good thing as well

keano_afc

5 pages in the last half an hour?

Ken Shamrock

Dickerty wrote: »

Don't patronise me BOB. I know very well that he was out of the side, but he's still a first team player. In the way that Agger is for us.

You said we were losing him, we're not.

bad2dabone

Anyhow. Glad that's over.

Ken Shamrock

Jesus, it's like an old firm game in here, yellow cards left right and centre, nobody even did anything :pac:

HazDanz

Glad the bouncer came in to clear the dance floor there.

Anyways I think this is going to be a very successful transfer window for us. We seem to be linked with players who will do a great job for us to fill the holes in our team.

Still a bit worried about our striker options however.

HazDanz

Also Ozil this world cup. I think he has shown what he can do when around a solid attacking team. He's the oil needed for a powerful engine.

ronjo

HazDanz wrote: »

Also Ozil this world cup. I think he has shown what he can do when around a solid attacking team. He's the oil needed for a powerful engine.

Just how Wenger used to describe Pires

Ken Shamrock

ronjo wrote: »

Just how Wenger used to describe Pires

Now now, Ozil is no Pires, certainly not for Arsenal, i'm yet to be fully convinced by Ozil since coming here, i know it's only 1 year but he's been showing some really bad characteristics.

Mickeroo

HazDanz wrote: »

Also Ozil this world cup. I think he has shown what he can do when around a solid attacking team. He's the oil needed for a powerful engine.

I think he's suffered the same problem at the WC as he had all year with us, no pacey players making runs ahead of him. I think he's had an ok world cup though, some of the criticisms he's been getting were pretty exaggerated imo but he hasn't set the place alight for me.

wandatowell

This was my favourite

Dickerty wrote: »

Don't patronise me BOB.

Sounds like something a wife would say

HazDanz

Mickeroo wrote: »

I think he's suffered the same problem at the WC as he had all year with us, no pacey players making runs ahead of him. I think he's had an ok world cup though, some of the criticisms he's been getting were pretty exaggerated imo but he hasn't set the place alight for me.

I don't think he ever will set the place alight. I think he'll be very solid and clinical with what he does but won't do an amazing mazy run and score top corner. It's not his game and I don't think we should expect it.

Like you are saying if we manage to get speed near him - sanchez and walcott would be super. He would just provide and provide for them as long as they make the runs.

Clinical striker too would help, I like Giroud but he fell short on a few occasions this year. Ozil will stick the ball where you want it but it's up to the other boys to make the end product work. He's our quarter back in a sense.

brianregan09

Here was i thinking we're after signing some one with all the activity only to find just like my kitchen the window was left open two long and two flies came in and started that buzzing we heard last year

ronjo

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Now now, Ozil is no Pires, certainly not for Arsenal, i'm yet to be fully convinced by Ozil since coming here, i know it's only 1 year but he's been showing some really bad characteristics.

That really has nothing to do with what I wrote to be fair..

jonneymendoza

HazDanz wrote: »

Also Ozil this world cup. I think he has shown what he can do when around a solid attacking team. He's the oil needed for a powerful engine.

his done hardly anything of note this WC.

Ed Winchester

jonneymendoza wrote: »

his done hardly anything of note this WC.

Scored the winning goal in the last 16.

dvemail

I might just buck the trend here and say Ozil hasn't been a worldie nor has he been bad so far in the World Cup.
He is doing as well as can be expected for playing on the wings imo.

Ken Shamrock

ronjo wrote: »

That really has nothing to do with what I wrote to be fair..

You made a comparison between Ozil and Pires and i gave my thoughts? What's wrong with that?

Alfred Borden

Is their a bigger legend than Thierry Henry? rhetorical question btw

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/2788E01E151096199777143742464_2dbe4bf424d.0.4.2674077869905568149.mp4?versionId=YBvAz3ruQh60W5G4kLc60LW.rY0TWlfG

gosplan

The truth is that Liverpool and Arsenal fans engage in oneupmanship because it's so close between us.

If either set of fans tried it with Chelsea or City, they'd just laugh.

We're ahead of them in terms of redevelopment and financing. They'd live to be in our position as it would mean they might not need to sell Suarez and they'd be buying more polished players rather than banking on potential.

They're ahead of us in terms of delivering on the pitch and have shown a couple of great spells of overachievement which we would have loved over the last ten years.

Ken Shamrock

Raf32 wrote: »

Is their a bigger legend than Thierry Henry? rhetorical question btw

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/2788E01E151096199777143742464_2dbe4bf424d.0.4.2674077869905568149.mp4?versionId=YBvAz3ruQh60W5G4kLc60LW.rY0TWlfG

Is their sound? I cant listen in work :cool:

egghead.

gosplan wrote: »

The truth is that Liverpool and Arsenal fans engage in oneupmanship because it's so close between us.

If either set of fans tried it with Chelsea or City, they'd just laugh.

We're ahead of them in terms of redevelopment and financing. They'd live to be in our position as it would mean they might not need to sell Suarez and they'd be buying more polished players rather than banking on potential.

They're ahead of us in terms of delivering on the pitch and have shown a couple of great spells of overachievement which we would have loved over the last ten years.

Ahead of them in class and history too.

Invertpyramid

It's a good thing too. Those extra "history points" will be vital this year.

ronjo

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

You made a comparison between Ozil and Pires and i gave my thoughts? What's wrong with that?

I actually didnt. I just mentioned that Wenger referred to Pires as the Oil also, which he did.

anyway, cracking days football today.... Cant wait for it.

Skylinehead

Raf32 wrote: »

Is their a bigger legend than Thierry Henry? rhetorical question btw

Rhetorical or not, I'm answering it :pac:



Favourite ever player, and for me there's not been a more technically talented player ever to play in the league.

Alfred Borden

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Is their sound? I cant listen in work :cool:

Just the crowd booing him and him booing them back :pac:

jonneymendoza

Dickerty wrote: »

As a Pool fan (who came in to get a take on the Sanchez thing), I have to agree!

You win your first trophy in YONKS, and you think that gives you bragging rights. Even though you haven't broken into the top 2 in 10 years.
Convenient how apparently that doesn't matter once you finish in the top 4?

I don't hate Arsenal fans, but a decade of "This is good enough" and selling your star players has made you look for every possible argument as to why this is really ok...

Like i said, do you get a trophy for becoming runners up in the title for the league?

Liverpool as runners up will be forgotten in a few months time. i cant even remember who was runners up the previous year of 12/13.

i do remember who won it though!

You wouldnt preach the same thing if liverpool won a cup this year and we finish runners up.

you be laughing at us not winning nout for 10 years and counting

Ken Shamrock

ronjo wrote: »

I actually didnt. I just mentioned that Wenger referred to Pires as the Oil also, which he did.

anyway, cracking days football today.... Cant wait for it.

Comparison, mentioned in the same vain whatever, it's not like i insulted you or referred anything to you!

Sure is, can only catch the 2nd half tho who's the money on?

Muirshin Durkin

France and Columbia to go through, i hope Columbia go on to win it.

ronjo

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Comparison, mentioned in the same vain whatever, it's not like i insulted you or referred anything to you!

Sure is, can only catch the 2nd half tho who's the money on?

Germany and Columbia for me.

Ken Shamrock

I think the germans will just be that little too strong for france who are yet to face a really class team, i hope to god Columbia win but i have a feeling Brazil will sneak through again.

Rocket_Man

Mertesacker dropped for today's game.

Ken Shamrock

Rocket_Man wrote: »

Mertesacker dropped for today's game.

Seems a bit silly being that France have no width and lack speed up top??

Alfred Borden

Rocket_Man wrote: »

Mertesacker dropped for today's game.

Id say they are worried of the pace in that French team.

Mickeroo

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Seems a bit silly being that France have no width and lack speed up top??

They've started Griezmann who is pretty fast. I think Mert has suffered due to him having no-one fast like Kosc alongside him. Playing no natural fullbacks hasn't helped either though.

Alfred Borden

i think its something we should look into in the away games against teams that are quick on the counter attack like Liverpool. Vermaelen is a great centre back and rotation wouldnt go a miss.

greendom

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Seems a bit silly being that France have no width and lack speed up top??

Maybe he got the flu worse than others

Mr Blobby

As long as Low keeps playing 4 CB's in defence Mert can't start.

Mickeroo

Raf32 wrote: »

i think its something we should look into in the away games against teams that are quick on the counter attack like Liverpool. Vermaelen is a great centre back and rotation wouldnt go a miss.

I think Mert + Kosc or Verm works better than Kosc and Verm on their own.

Ed Winchester

Raf32 wrote: »

i think its something we should look into in the away games against teams that are quick on the counter attack like Liverpool. Vermaelen is a great centre back and rotation wouldnt go a miss.

Breaking up the Mert Kos partnership is just crazy imo.

Ken Shamrock

Mickeroo wrote: »

I think Mert + Kosc or Verm works better than Kosc and Verm on their own.

Have to agree with this, Vermaelen was my fav player in the world, and i hated Mertesacker and thought Kosc was alri but i was always begging for Kosc + Verm and anytime we got it they were poor

Alfred Borden

Mickeroo wrote: »

I think Mert + Kosc or Verm works better than Kosc and Verm on their own.

defo agree but just think Mert isnt suited to them games like the one at Anfield. We cant play a high line and push out because teams will just play in behind us. Only probably 3 or so games id go kos and vermaelen/whoever is third choice.

Alfred Borden

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Breaking up the Mert Kos partnership is just crazy imo.

only for 2-3 games a year imo

yknaa

Mickeroo wrote: »

I see Anouk Hoogendijk has gone back to Ajax

You will be happy so to see Turid Knaak arrive then

Mickeroo

Raf32 wrote: »

defo agree but just think Mert isnt suited to them games like the one at Anfield. We cant play a high line and push out because teams will just play in behind us. Only probably 3 or so games id go kos and vermaelen/whoever is third choice.

Could very well have worked better that day yeah, but Ii think the high line was the problem no Mert. Wenger needs to learn to change up his tactics against teams with such an attacking threat imo.