Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning Linked in OP

Alfred Borden

omega man wrote: »

Sanchez apparently not interested in pool.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/alexis-sanchez-latest-barcelona-and-chile-striker-not-interested-in-signing-for-liverpool-and-will-decide-between-juventus-and-arsenal-9586566.html

Would you blame him? :pac:

Mickeroo

Will he pick us over Juve? If they're not selling Vidal I could see him going there instead.

Ed Winchester

Mickeroo wrote: »

Will he pick us over Juve? If they're not selling Vidal I could see him going there instead.

One easy way around that.

Buy Vidal too!

MD1990

omega man wrote: »

Sanchez apparently not interested in pool.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/alexis-sanchez-latest-barcelona-and-chile-striker-not-interested-in-signing-for-liverpool-and-will-decide-between-juventus-and-arsenal-9586566.html

Raf32 wrote: »

Would you blame him? :pac:

However, it is not all good news for the Gunners, however, as Sanchez is also believed to prefer a move back to the Italian giants over a move to north London.

Don't get too excited Arsenal are masters at failing to close deals.

omega man

Mickeroo wrote: »

Will he pick us over Juve? If they're not selling Vidal I could see him going there instead.

Wouldn't be at all surprised. It really is a dead end league at the moment though.

the untitled user

Raf32 wrote: »

Ozil is performing better than all these lads who are all having great world cups. Being played out of position too.

Mickeroo wrote: »

He really isn't tbh. He's not playing as bad as some make out, he's actually been decent but to say he's been better than Neymar or Rodriguez is nuts.

He kind of has been though. Ozil has been a constant threat, but his team mates play have kind of by passed though. Yesterday was a perfect example, he created two or three really good chances that should have resulted in goals but for sloppy play by his team mates. He's unlucky, in the sense most of his good work this tournament has been outside the box and facilitating the direct running of Muller and Schurrle when he comes on, and he's been prevented at times from joining those attacks by virtue of having to cover Kroos in particular. But if his team mates had been more clinical everybody would be talking about how Ozil is the player of the tournament.

And remember too, of the four above who played yesterday, Ozil is the only one you could say had a good game. At the quarter finals of the World Cup, that says a lot.

shano_88

The **** Ozil gets on this forum is ridiculous.

Mr Blobby

After going through all the latest Twitter/Paper/Other crap news sources.. It seems like Liverpool are out of the running for Sanchez.

A lot of Chilina News sources are reporting its between us and Juventus, which is weird because I heard they couldn't' afford Sanchez. Either Way most are saying our deal is more lucrative than Juve's (I'm guessing we're offer more cash upfront) but I think the option of playing with Vidal and moving back to Italy will be a big lure for Sanchez.

Edit: Also Debuchy is 100% gone! Newcastle just gave his number away to some other player.

the untitled user

Mickeroo wrote: »

Will he pick us over Juve? If they're not selling Vidal I could see him going there instead.

I posted this earlier in the thread...

the untitled user wrote: »

I reckon any deal for Sanchez/Vidal could take ages. It's been clear since long before the season's end that both of them have a desire to play their club football together. Juventus could most likely facilitate this, but then there's reports of interest in both players from ourselves and Utd too which has gone and complicated things. So I reckon Sanchez will stall signing any deal until Vidals future becomes more certain. And I also reckon this is perhaps why Barca were also so willing to enter a cash only deal for Suarez so early in the negotiation process, even though Liverpool appear to place a higher valuation on him than any other club which would have made the deal a lot easier.

Then of course if Arsenal or someone else do bid for Vidal, he could stall until he knows what happens with his mate Sanchez... there's a risk it could all end up a bit of a Mexican standoff and nothing happens until 10pm deadline day! Oh joy!

So if the interest in Vidal from United and or ourselves is genuine I reckon Sanchez would come to Arsenal pretty quickly (given that whatever interest United had in Sanchez seems have faded). But if Vidal ends up staying, I reckon Sanchez will follow him to Juve. And I don't think it'll be resolved any time soon.

Mr Blobby

Mr Blobby wrote: »

After going through all the latest Twitter/Paper/Other crap news sources.. It seems like Liverpool are out of the running for Sanchez.

A lot of Chilina News sources are reporting its between us and Juventus, which is weird because I heard they couldn't' afford Sanchez. Either Way most are saying our deal is more lucrative than Juve's (I'm guessing we're offer more cash upfront) but I think the option of playing with Vidal and moving back to Italy will be a big lure for Sanchez.

Edit: Also Debuchy is 100% gone! Newcastle just gave his number away to some other player.

Vidal could be gone from Juve himself soon though

Mickeroo

If it starts looking like the Sanchez deal is going to turn into a 2 month saga then I think they'd be better off pulling the plug asap and going after Griezmann or Di Maria. Hopefully that won't happen though.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Mr Blobby wrote: »

After going through all the latest Twitter/Paper/Other crap news sources.. It seems like Liverpool are out of the running for Sanchez.

A lot of Chilina News sources are reporting its between us and Juventus, which is weird because I heard they couldn't' afford Sanchez. Either Way most are saying our deal is more lucrative than Juve's (I'm guessing we're offer more cash upfront) but I think the option of playing with Vidal and moving back to Italy will be a big lure for Sanchez.

Edit: Also Debuchy is 100% gone! Newcastle just gave his number away to some other player.

In that case the only sensible solution is to sign Vidal too.

Drexel

Mickeroo wrote: »

If it starts looking like the Sanchez deal is going to turn into a 2 month saga then I think they'd be better off pulling the plug asap and going after Griezmann or Di Maria. Hopefully that won't happen though.

Gott agree. Be nice for any newbies to have some of a preseason. I don't think Wenger would like it to drawn out either after missing targets last year

gosplan

Yeah, Sanchez did great at Udinese so it's all really whether he views moving back there as a step backwards or a return to glory. Anybody's guess really.

I really don't see both of them moving to Utd either.

I mean they don't have CL plus they've spent 60 million already on two players. It'd be the guts of another 100 for Vidal and Sanchez. That's serious serious spend especially given last season they spent 70 on Fellaini and Mata.

Plus they need defenders.

brianregan09

The feeling of Deja VU here is immense Arsenal closing in on a marquee signing and its down to us and an Italian team, a move to Italy considered a backwards step compared to us....yeah this Higuain all over again heres to a different end result

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Ornstein has spoken! Pretty much confirming what has already been reported

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david 17m
Arsenal in talks to sign Sanchez & Debouchy. AS complicated by #FCB Suarez move but #AFC confident. MD advanced but no fee agreed #LFC #NUFC

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david 18m
Arsenal still in market for other targets, primarily holding midfielder & back-up goalkeeper, but Sanchez & Debouchy current priorities #AFC

I don't know much about Vidal. What position would he usually play?

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't know much about Vidal. What position would he usually play?

Box to box midfielder. Not gonna happen though.

Mr Blobby

No chance of getting Vidal.
Juve would want crazy money.

greendom

Hopefully this should put an end to the Ozil not being good enough tosh...

seklly

Interesting article comparing Vidal with Schneiderlin: http://www.squawka.com/news/arturo-vidal-vs-morgan-schneiderlin-who-do-arsenal-need-more/135172

I'd love to see Sanchez and Vidal link up at Arsenal next season but can't see it happening with the price Juve will be looking for, I think Schneiderlin would be a good alternative though in that central holding position.

Priority has to be Sanchez though, will offer us another dimension in attack.

How much do ye rrckon Juve want?

Mr Blobby

Deleted User wrote: »

How much do ye rrckon Juve want?

Minimum €60M i'd say.

thorbarry

greendom wrote: »

Hopefully this should put an end to the Ozil not being good enough tosh...

He is good enough. He could start adding a few more goals to his play tho. Look at Rodriguez getting 6

Mr Blobby

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Minimum €60M i'd say.

Jaysis...

greendom

Schneiderlin fits what we actually need and he would be half the transfer fee and half the wages. Although Vidal is obviously the better player.

enfant terrible

Mr Blobby wrote: »

After going through all the latest Twitter/Paper/Other crap news sources.. It seems like Liverpool are out of the running for Sanchez.

A lot of Chilina News sources are reporting its between us and Juventus, which is weird because I heard they couldn't' afford Sanchez. Either Way most are saying our deal is more lucrative than Juve's (I'm guessing we're offer more cash upfront) but I think the option of playing with Vidal and moving back to Italy will be a big lure for Sanchez.

Edit: Also Debuchy is 100% gone! Newcastle just gave his number away to some other player.

The Juve fans seem to think they have no chance for Sanchez so lets hope they're right.

Mr Blobby

enfant terrible wrote: »

The Juve fans seem to think they have no chance for Sanchez so lets hope they're right.

Personally I don't believe Juve can even afford Sanchez and its all paper talk.

That said.. I'd more worried that if they can afford him, the lure of Vidla and Italy would be to big to pass up.

enfant terrible

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Personally I don't believe Juve can even afford Sanchez and its all paper talk.

That said.. I'd more worried that if they can afford him, the lure of Vidla and Italy would be to big to pass up.

Vidal is 27 now so will be moving soon I think.

Sanchez can buy a house next door to Cesc

salmocab

It sounds like Juve can only afford Sanchez if they sell Vidal and that would negate the reason for him joining them. Of course its possible that we don't know whats really going on, but Im feeling good about this not certain but still think it will probably happen. Think the next 2 weeks are going to be the time for us as it seems most of our targets are moving on regardless of if its us or not so I don't think they will drag on up to the end of the window.

Pepe LeFrits

Thank god we didn't go for Fellaini last summer. Some people seriously overrated him, such a technically limited player.

Mr Blobby

Some updates!

GeoffArsenal -

Sanchez, Hearing personal terms agreed in principal before the WC, Transfer fee yet to be agreed with Barca but Arsenal are quietly confidnt

JWTelegraph -

On Sanchez and Debuchy, situation fairly unchanged. Finals fees to be agreed but every indication that both players keen to join #afc

keano_afc

We could easily afford Vidal, but there's no way we'd buy him.

Marty McFly

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Some updates!

GeoffArsenal -



JWTelegraph -

Nice now that inspires some more confidence hopefully now we can agree fees. Can see Bar a really trying to push the fee up to help finance the Suarez deal.

gosplan

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Some updates!

GeoffArsenal -



JWTelegraph -

Nice - BBC reporting it is always a good sign.

Look, I really don't want to give Barca a penny more than necessary but surely Wenger realises at this stage that he cannot afford another Higuain transfer.

We need a very specific type of player and Snachez is the absolute best we could possibly hope for this summer.

AdamD

shano_88 wrote: »

The **** Ozil gets on this forum is ridiculous.

My main issue is that we've heard nothing about Aguero/Hazard/Hulk etc. all big money players who have had horrid world cups, Hazard in particular. Ozil just gets bizarre levels of criticism.

fulmer1984

Id still prefer Aurier to Debuchy. Anyone else?

brianregan09

Be nice to see a World Class player coming in the opposite direction after we've lost many to them down through the years

Petit, Overmars, Hleb, Henry, Song, Fabregas to name a few well maybe not Song but you get the message

TimeToShine

fulmer1984 wrote: »

Id still prefer Aurier to Debuchy. Anyone else?

Yeah, if we wanted experience we should have kept Sagna. I know everyone says he wanted to leave but if we gave him the pay day he was looking for he would definitely have stayed. As it stands we're spending money on someone who, at his peak and on a good day, is equal to Sagna. Aurier at least has the potential to exceed them and give us a longer service period.

TimeToShine

TimeToShine wrote: »

Yeah, if we wanted experience we should have kept Sagna. I know everyone says he wanted to leave but if we gave him the pay day he was looking for he would definitelty have stayed. As it stands we're spending money on someone who, at his peak and on a good day, is equal to Sagna. Aurier at least has the potential to exceed them and give us a longer service period.

If we were paying Sagna 160k a week in 3 years time, I'd go mental.

Happy with Debuchy. Cheaper than Sagna and comparable.

TimeToShine

What about the 12m up front to get him in the first place? It would have worked out cheaper in the long run as well as the short term.

Mr Blobby

TimeToShine wrote: »

What about the 12m up front to get him in the first place? It would have worked out cheaper in the long run as well as the short term.

Getting Debuchy is the right move.
If we'd have kept Sagna we'd have been keeping a player who's on his last legs and he'd be getting 130K a week!!! Thats only 10K less than Ozil!

I'd rather get Debuchy who's hitting his peak and is (imo) better than Sagna.

It also gives Jenks and Bellerin time to get better.

Drexel

TimeToShine wrote: »

What about the 12m up front to get him in the first place? It would have worked out cheaper in the long run as well as the short term.

I'm glad we got Debuchy. Already used to the PL. Keeping sanga out of the French team too.

Pepe LeFrits

I reckon we'll get Debuchy for 8 or 9 million which is fine. Good enough player that will allow us to focus on the higher priority stuff.

gnfnrhead

I'd be happy with Debuchy. Similar enough level to Sagna but a little younger. He'll be first choice while Jenkinson and Bellerin grow a little more and take over in a few years time. It's what we should be doing rather than throwing the youngsters in before they are ready to be first choice.

After Sanchez, we should try for Vidal. Might not happen, but is worth a shot. He'd be worth the expense as those couple of signings will push us from potential contenders to definite contenders.

Should also be able to find a cheap/free/loan back up CB and GK to round it off.

bad2dabone

Chilean journalist and TV presenter Felipe Bianchi has said sanchez is leaving barca for us.

The hopes rise by one notch

Mr Blobby

bad2dabone wrote: »

Chilean journalist and TV presenter Felipe Bianchi has said sanchez is leaving barca for us.

The hopes rise by one notch

I really want to get my hopes up, but this feels so simliar to the Higuain transfer.

1st. BPL player has amazing season - Bale/Suarez

2nd. Spanish Club decide to buy that player - Real/Barca

3rd. Spanish team can't afford transfer so they sell there players - Hig/Sanchez

4th. 3 teams inquire about the player - Arsenal,Chelsea,Napoli - Arsenal,Liverpool,Juventus

5th. One English team backs out Chelsea/Liverpool

6th. Player looks set to sign for Arsenal...

And we'll you know the rest.

Omeceron

Mr Blobby wrote: »

I really want to get my hopes up, but this feels so simliar to the Higuain transfer.

1st. BPL player has amazing season - Bale/Suarez

2nd. Spanish Club decide to buy that player - Real/Barca

3rd. Spanish team can't afford transfer so they sell there players - Hig/Sanchez

4th. 3 teams inquire about the player - Arsenal,Chelsea,Napoli - Arsenal,Liverpool,Juventus

5th. One English team backs out Chelsea/Liverpool

6th. Player looks set to sign for Arsenal...

And we'll you know the rest.

7th Arsenal take their 2nd best player. Iniesta is on the way?

Mr Blobby

Omeceron wrote: »

7th Arsenal take their 2nd best player. Iniesta is on the way?

Pfft.. Iniesta? Sure Sanchez was Barca's 2nd best player! Only Messi will do :pac:

tayto lover

Lads this Campbell lad is going to be some player. Great brain and is a work-horse. he could have filled in for Walcott last season.