Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning Linked in OP

Raf32

Raf32 wrote: »

Mercenary stuff from Bac, lost a lot of time for him.

Are you kidding me?!

7 years faithful servant. Never impetuous. Generally always played well. At least solidly.

I have no ill will towards the man at all. Some people think when you play for a club you marry it and have to stay til the end of your career! It's still just a job for a lot of professionals. Who here wouldn't change company if you were offered more than twice your salary a few years before your retirement?

Mercenary my ass. It's not like he held us over a barrel or tried to push through us selling him.

Godge

Deleted User wrote: »

So Sagna's off to city on a three year deal at £150,000 a week.

Fair play to him. No way were we going to be able to match that. As great as he is, that's a ludicrous deal for a 31 year old rw/cb

do you have a link for this? Something reliable?

second hand, but Arseblog rarely posts unsubstantiated rumours:
http://news.arseblog.com/2014/05/lequipe-claim-sagna-to-city-is-a-done-deal/

TimeToShine

Raf32 wrote: »

Mercenary stuff from Bac, lost a lot of time for him.

I see what Fabregas did to be a lot worse and plenty of people are clamoring for him back.

FLOOPER

extra gravy wrote: »

Is it worth the €25? Was thinking about ordering a copy online.

Missed the event last night. Would love to get this but I'm not paying 33% of cost on postage (€8)

Is there anywhere I could pick this up in Dublin somewhere.

I'd e-mail Arseblogger but he doesn't seem to reply to mails.

Cheers.

emergingstar

Good look to bac he deserves the pay day

Hope he regrets it next season watching his former club lift the title

Godge

Deleted User wrote: »

second hand, but Arseblog rarely posts unsubstantiated rumours:
http://news.arseblog.com/2014/05/lequipe-claim-sagna-to-city-is-a-done-deal/

I wonder whether there is a new French source for that or whether l'Equipe are only picking up now the rumours that were in the British papers last weekend?

Out of the 1,000 transfer rumours involving Arsenal every summer, about 5-8 turn out to be true. This could well be one but until I see quotes from a player or a club I tend to doubt them.

G1032

Raf32 wrote: »

Mercenary stuff from Bac, lost a lot of time for him.

Is have a lot more time for Bac than I would for Cesc. Don't ever recall Bac going on strike to force a move.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Quazzie wrote: »

Will he even make the team ahead of Zabaleta?

They might use him as a centre back.

dvemail

Aurier, Griezmann, Remy and Cesc. Would be happy with that. (dreamland)

.jacksparrow.

Got this from arsenal mania, can't find a quote yet cause only just been reported

Guillem Balague has just said that barca are going to accept any bid over 34million pounds(40million euros) and that arsenals back room staff has told wenger to get him back. He also said we have a buy-back clause.... so it seems he will be leaving barca... presumably for united or us.

salmocab

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Got this from arsenal mania, can't find a quote yet cause only just been reported

Guillem Balague has just said that barca are going to accept any bid over 34million pounds(40million euros) and that arsenals back room staff has told wenger to get him back. He also said we have a buy-back clause.... so it seems he will be leaving barca... presumably for united or us.

Song, great news:D

Spanish Johnny

Ok the awkward question. Let's just say United bid and we bid.

Where do ye reckon he will go??

dvemail

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Got this from arsenal mania, can't find a quote yet cause only just been reported

Guillem Balague has just said that barca are going to accept any bid over 34million pounds(40million euros) and that arsenals back room staff has told wenger to get him back. He also said we have a buy-back clause.... so it seems he will be leaving barca... presumably for united or us.

Ballague hasn't a clue. On Tuesday on Revista de La Liga he said that Fabregas has a buyout clause of 40m euros, when it is actually 200m. (Was reported by many papers at the time of the signing to be the case).
Also said that Arsenal do not have a clause in the contract for first refusal.

He has now completely backtracked it seems.

AdamD

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Ok the awkward question. Let's just say United bid and we bid.

Where do ye reckon he will go??

Arsenal, no doubts.

Quazzie

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Ok the awkward question. Let's just say United bid and we bid.

Where do ye reckon he will go??

Is that a serious question?

Wonda-Boy

Quazzie wrote: »

Will he even make the team ahead of Zabaleta?

Does he care for £150K a week.....;)

Wonda-Boy

All this banter about Giroud being this that and the other......HE GOT THE WINNER AGAINST SPURS, with a well classy finish. Worth the money alone for that.....:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Looper007

TimeToShine wrote: »

I see what Fabregas did to be a lot worse and plenty of people are clamoring for him back.

I don't understand why as he clearly hasn't set the world alight at Barca. Plus he wanted out when he was with us, so he's untrustworthy too.

AdamD

Watching old videos has made me want Fabregas back even more, the guy's world class. His stats for Barca are still incredible despite being played out of position most of the time.

42 goals and 48 assists in 151 games.

Jaafa

Sagna completed his contract admirably. He owes us nothing.

Spanish Johnny

Quazzie wrote: »

Is that a serious question?

Yes of course it is. I have absolutely no faith in a footballers words. Absolutely none. Dont think any of them are different. Wouldnt surprise me if he picked United. Thats genuinely why I ask.

greendom

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Yes of course it is. I have absolutely no faith in a footballers words. Absolutely none. Dont think any of them are different. Wouldnt surprise me if he picked United. Thats genuinely why I ask.

Arsenal will have some additional pulling power in that his partner and child still live in London.

Spanish Johnny

Reasons we wont sign Cesc and a DM:

For 5 positions:

Arteta
Flamini
Diaby
Ramsey
Wilshere
Rosicky
Ozil
Cazorla
Ox
Podolski
Walcott
Gnabry


Podolski sold and Gnabry loan is the only movement there possibly. No way we add two to that.

Logic and squad size which we cant forget will ensure that.

Quazzie

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Reasons we wont sign Cesc and a DM:

For 5 positions:

Arteta
Flamini
Diaby
Ramsey
Wilshere
Rosicky
Ozil
Cazorla
Ox
Podolski
Walcott
Gnabry


Podolski sold and Gnabry loan is the only movement there possibly. No way we add two to that.

Logic and squad size which we cant forget will ensure that.

I stopped reading after Diaby. :pac:

emergingstar

If cesc is available wenger will buy him no doubt about it

Wouldn't be Suprised to see podolski and arteta go

AdamD

Can see Gnabry playing 20-25 games this season, big talent.

Frisbee

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Reasons we wont sign Cesc and a DM:

For 5 positions:

Arteta - Has maybe 1 year left & can barely manage two games in a week
Flamini - Similar to above but probably 2 years.
Diaby - Not even worth counting tbh
Ramsey - Top Class
Wilshere - Very Good but a bit of a crock
Rosicky - Good but a bit of a crock
Ozil - Top Class
Cazorla -Top Class
Ox - Still very raw
Podolski - Doesn't seem to be trusted my the manager, rarely plays more than 65 mins when he is picked.
Walcott - Injury Prone
Gnabry - Not trusted


Podolski sold and Gnabry loan is the only movement there possibly. No way we add two to that.

Logic and squad size which we cant forget will ensure that.

There is plenty of games there for Cesc.

Spanish Johnny

Frisbee wrote: »

There is plenty of games there for Cesc.

True but the point I am making is squad size. They may be all crocks but we have a squad limited by rule. We will need 3 of those listed to go in order for 2 to come in. That is the question. How likely is it that 3 out of those go?

I wouldnt mind seeing some shake up but I just cant see us getting Cesc and a DM when you look at the numbers. Remember we have talk of a LW too.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

True but the point I am making is squad size. They may be all crocks but we have a squad limited by rule. We will need 3 of those listed to go in order for 2 to come in. That is the question. How likely is it that 3 out of those go?

I wouldnt mind seeing some shake up but I just cant see us getting Cesc and a DM when you look at the numbers. Remember we have talk of a LW too.

Why would we need more to leave than come in?

emergingstar

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Why would we need more to leave than come in?

Squad size I guess

farna_boy

emergingstar wrote: »

Squad size I guess

What are exactly the rules about squad size/home grown/youth players exactly?

Fuzzy_Dunlop

emergingstar wrote: »

Squad size I guess

Surely the squad size is the same this year as last though?

Or is it that some players will no longer count as youths?

emergingstar

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Surely the squad size is the same this year as last though?

Or is it that some players will no longer count as youths?

I haven't a clue about the rules but were ok money wise so I Persume he means we won't have enough places for new players unless some go

wonga77

Sagna gone so at least thats done early and theres plenty of time to replace
His first competitive game will most likely be against us in the community shield too.
Good player and I dont blame him for taking the deal offered but City are crazy throwing that much at a 31 year old in a position where they are not desperately stuch tbh, how many of our ex-players do they have now?

cathalio11

Here is the video of Arsenal fans chanting for Sagna to stay and apologies if it has already been posted.

But what I want you all to watch is Wenger during the video. What the hell is he doing?

salmocab

can't help but think that City are working their way through the whole club. It will be a bid for the Emirates next.

Alfred Borden

Anyone here that have actually watched Aurier? good enough?

emergingstar

Imagine cesc and ozil in the same midfield though

Spanish Johnny

emergingstar wrote: »

Imagine cesc and ozil in the same midfield though

Cesc should bring Pedro with him. Pace and ability and stocks us nicely in that area.

ronjo

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Cesc should bring Pedro with him. Pace and ability and stocks us nicely in that area.

cause thats how transfers usually work Johnny :pac:

Godge

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Surely the squad size is the same this year as last though?

Or is it that some players will no longer count as youths?

Assuming that all those out of contract/on loan leave, we have the following on our books.

Overseas (12)

Per Mertesacker, Thomas Vermaelen, Laurent Koscielny, Abou Diaby, Thomas Rosicky, Mikel Arteta, Lucas Podolski, Oliver Giroud, Santi Carzola, Nacho Monreal, Mathieu Flamini, Yaya Sanogo

Homegrown (9)

Wojech Szczesny, Kieran Gibbs, Aaron Ramsey, Theo Walcott, Damian Martinez, Carl Jenkinson, Jack Wilshere, Ryo Miyaichi (unsure if he qualifies), Ignasi Miquel

As well as that we have the following overseas players who future is unclear:

Park, Campbell, Galindo

And the following homegrown unclear:

Coquelin, Daniel Boateng.

All the rest like the OX, Gnabry, Zelalem, Bellerin, Hayden etc. are under-21 and don't count.

Assuming Miyachi and Miquel have no future at the club and neither do the unclear group, we could sign 6 players and at least one of them would have to be homegrown before we would have to sell anyone.

Allowing for a Fabianski replacement and a Sagna replacement/CB, that still leaves four vacancies in the squad.

Martinez, Benzema, Cesc and Vela anyone?

handsfree

Godge wrote: »

Martinez, Benzema, Cesc and Vela anyone?

That would blow my mind

kevinroche3333

Article is a little old but I cant stop dreaming of a Martinez/Ramsey/Ozil midfield!!

http://afootballreport.com/post/48743804752/commanding-pivotal-tenacious-javi-martinez-has

Martinez Benzema and Aurier/RB would have me genuinely believing we could win the league next year!

batistuta9

Raf32 wrote: »

Anyone here that have actually watched Aurier? good enough?

I haven't but they were talking about him on a Bergkamp wonderland a few weeks ago, said he's good enough but might take a season or two to be complete, reckoned corchia of sochaux was ready now

Alfred Borden

batistuta9 wrote: »

I haven't but they were talking about him on a Bergkamp wonderland a few weeks ago, said he's good enough but might take a season or two to be complete, reckoned corchia of sochaux was ready now

Thanks, good to hear he is regarded high enough so. On a side note they are gonna have a great pod tonight with Geoff and Jeremy Wilson from the Telegraph on it.

batistuta9

Raf32 wrote: »

Thanyks, good to hear he is regarded high enough so. On a side note they are gonna have a great pod tonight with Geoff and Jeremy Wilson from the Telegraph on it.

I haven't listened to it in a few weeks now meant to catch up. What are they doing tonight, transfer talk?


Some quotes here from a director about spending, seems a bit like last year
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsene-was-always-staying-he-gave-us-his-word-just-after-the-season-started--arsenal-director-lord-harris-9415064.html

Irish Aris

Marty McFly wrote: »

Is that your own or an image you found?

My own Marty.
I did it on Tuesday.

Regarding the transfers, I think the wages structure might cause us additional problems.
Surely the money are there and we can attract players, but will they start thinking outside of the box and offer big salaries to lure in big players?
And how the current players will react?

And regardless of how much money we have available, there are teams around us with money machines. . .and unfortunately I don't buy all this FFP that Fifa promotes. Unless they are prepared to put heavy penalties on teams, it will never work, and I don't think they are brave enough (or care enough) to so anything drastic.

Alfred Borden

batistuta9 wrote: »

I haven't listened to it in a few weeks now meant to catch up. What are they doing tonight, transfer talk?


Some quotes here from a director about spending, seems a bit like last year
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsene-was-always-staying-he-gave-us-his-word-just-after-the-season-started--arsenal-director-lord-harris-9415064.html

End of season round up with a bitta transfer talk, two boys are really reliable so defo will be listening to it tonight. Last few shows have been very good actually! Saw that article actually, sounds really encouraging, something similar to last year. Hopefully Wenger pulls another gem and throws millions at Cavani.

Wonda-Boy

emergingstar wrote: »

Imagine cesc and ozil in the same midfield though

I am and neither of them can tackle TBH and not exactly physical either. :rolleyes: