Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning Linked in OP

shano_88

Latest is Wenger wants to sign James Milner and turn him into a right back.

A few days ago, it was reported he wanted to leave to get more first team action in his preferred central midfield role.

greendom

Tomorrow's papers full of transfer talk.

according to them we want Cesc back, and we are to bid 18 million for Griezmann and we are bidding with Liverpool for Remy

dvemail

Just watched an 11 minute clip of all Fabregas's assists in an Arsenal shirt.
Bring him back!!

Alfred Borden

Can Fabregas play the Arteta role? if he can that midfield is unstoppable if we manage to pull it off.

Spanish Johnny

Raf32 wrote: »

Can Fabregas play the Arteta role? if he can that midfield is unstoppable if we manage to pull it off.

Can we not just buy players that are excellent in their positions rather than convert them though!

To be fair though and try not get carried away, if we signed Fabregas we would be looking at midfield options equal to anyone in world club football. Ramsey, Wilshere, Ozil, and Fabregas fighting for positions. Sounds crazy. A Remy or a Bony or a 15-20 million striker who can get in behind and finish would well suffice given the lack of top top strikers available.

Mr Blobby

Raf32 wrote: »

Can Fabregas play the Arteta role? if he can that midfield is unstoppable if we manage to pull it off.

We'd be wasting him there.
To be honest i've never been a fan of having Arteta as our only holding mid.

I'd rather someone more physical.

Spanish Johnny

greendom wrote: »

Tomorrow's papers full of transfer talk.

according to them we want Cesc back, and we are to bid 18 million for Griezmann and we are bidding with Liverpool for Remy

Funny thing is Greendom is that 55 million would cover those 3. Not bad value!

That said an RB and DM are needed.

Alfred Borden

Mr Blobby wrote: »

We'd be wasting him there.
To be honest i've never been a fan of having Arteta as our only holding mid.

I'd rather someone more physical.

agreed Martinez is the dream

Alfred Borden

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Can we not just buy players that are excellent in their positions rather than convert them though!

To be fair though and try not get carried away, if we signed Fabregas we would be looking at midfield options equal to anyone in world club football. Ramsey, Wilshere, Ozil, and Fabregas fighting for positions. Sounds crazy. A Remy or a Bony or a 15-20 million striker who can get in behind and finish would well suffice given the lack of top top strikers available.

if we sign fabregas though, no way will we sign a dm, i would bet my house on it.

Spanish Johnny

Raf32 wrote: »

if we sign fabregas though, no way will we sign a dm, i would bet my house on it.

Been beating that drum all day or else you're slaggin me!!

kronsington

Do you think the reaction to a possible return of Cesc would be universally positive? Outstanding player that he is and was this wouldn't e even mentioned if things were going well for him at Barca and this is the same guy who (allegedly) went on strike to force the move through.. I would welcome him as he is top class but in not so sure all fans would

Also, what do people think at Mourinho's latest saracastic snide pop at Wenger? (Sorry if this has been mentioned already)

Alfred Borden

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Been beating that drum all day or else you're slaggin me!!

Its just I love Cesc but its arsenal here lol if we sign him, we will get some cheap forward and that will be it. Id rather get a strong DM then the striker. If theres cash available after that we get him but if not i dont want to sacrifice the other two spots as much as well all love him

Spanish Johnny

Raf32 wrote: »

Its just I love Cesc but its arsenal here lol if we sign him, we will get some cheap forward and that will be it. Id rather get a strong DM then the striker. If theres cash available after that we get him but if not i dont want to sacrifice the other two spots as much as well all love him

Agreed. That is my take on it too. A top striker, top DM and let Wilshere become the player he can be.

I cant justify signing Cesc to prevent United getting hi

Spanish Johnny

But if we got all three id be over the moon!!

Alfred Borden

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Agreed. That is my take on it too. A top striker, top DM and let Wilshere become the player he can be.

I cant justify signing Cesc to prevent United getting hi

I thought i was going mad with the possibility of having to reject Cesc, delighted ya think the same Johnny. Just think we will have the same problems next year. But if Arsene wants to go mad and sign Martinez, Cavani and Cesc i wont be complaining :pac:

Wonda-Boy

I would absolutely love it Kevin Keegan style if we get Cesc back....ONLY AFTER WE DO THE BUSINESS OFF GETTING THE PLAYERS WE NEED 1ST MR WENGER!!!

And exhale.......

enfant terrible

Raf32 wrote: »

I thought i was going mad with the possibility of having to reject Cesc, delighted ya think the same Johnny. Just think we will have the same problems next year. But if Arsene wants to go mad and sign Martinez, Cavani and Cesc i wont be complaining :pac:

Yee are mad you don't turn down a world class player like Fabregas no matter who you already have.

12gauge dave

Imagine cesc and ozil passing the ball around with little 1-2's brings a tear to the eye thinking about such beautiful things

farna_boy

enfant terrible wrote: »

Yee are mad you don't turn down a world class player like Fabregas no matter who you already have.

No we would be mad to ignore the one position that prevented us from winning the league this year or to not strengthen our weakest areas first before considering other players who would be nice to have, unless Cesc is willing to play RB for us nest year.

enfant terrible

farna_boy wrote: »

No we would be mad to ignore the one position that prevented us from winning the league this year or to not strengthen our weakest areas first before considering other players who would be nice to have, unless Cesc is willing to play RB for us nest year.

Don't think Wenger will play him at RB.

Marty McFly

farna_boy wrote: »

No we would be mad to ignore the one position that prevented us from winning the league this year or to not strengthen our weakest areas first before considering other players who would be nice to have, unless Cesc is willing to play RB for us nest year.

Exactly it's about looking at the bigger picture.

You could have twenty world class CF in the one squad and still not win the league if the rest your team isn't up to scratch and we have areas that need addressing if we want to challenge next season.

We'd all love Cesc but if it's at the expense of a DM, CF, or LW no thanks.

enfant terrible

Marty McFly wrote: »

Exactly it's about looking at the bigger picture.

You could have twenty world class CF in the one squad and still not win the league if the rest your team isn't up to scratch and we have areas that need addressing if we want to challenge next season.

We'd all love Cesc but if it's at the expense of a DM, CF, or LW no thanks.

You guys are gonna be so depressed when we sign Fabregas.

Y2KBOS86

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

I am and neither of them can tackle TBH and not exactly physical either. :rolleyes:

Cesc has plenty of power and is very fit, it's Ozil who lacks those qualities.

His lacks of fitness and strength this season was disappointing, he was barely able to walk after the 60th minute in most games this season, for a professional athlete that is not good enough, big improvement needed next year.Soccer is not a stats game, don't care how many assists he has this season, he was a big disappointment.

Cesc will at the least give ous passion, goals and most of all his vision and passing can turn defense into attack in seconds.One of the best in the world and recycling attacks.

Hope he leaves Barca, wasted his best years there.

Y2KBOS86

farna_boy wrote: »

No we would be mad to ignore the one position that prevented us from winning the league this year or to not strengthen our weakest areas first before considering other players who would be nice to have, unless Cesc is willing to play RB for us nest year.

We lost the league because we had know one to replace Ramsey and Theo's goal threat.

I am certain Cesc can match Ramsey's goal threat and create more, we need goals and Cesc has plenty of goals in him for a midfielder.

farna_boy

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

We lost the league because we had know one to replace Ramsey and Theo's goal threat.

I am certain Cesc can match Ramsey's goal threat and create more, we need goals and Cesc has plenty of goals in him for a midfielder.

So we don't need a striker, all we need is Cesc?

enfant terrible

farna_boy wrote: »

So we don't need a striker, all we need is Cesc?

Who said that?

12gauge dave

farna_boy wrote: »

So we don't need a striker, all we need is Cesc?

Cesc can play centre forward and has scored many goals even hatricks playing as a centre forward when messi was injured

But jokes aside a piszczek, cesc and benzema wouldnt be a bad summer imo

Y2KBOS86

farna_boy wrote: »

So we don't need a striker, all we need is Cesc?

We need them all over the pitch, only Giroud, Ramsey, Theo and Podolski when he comes on is a goal threat.

Wilshere, Arteta, Ozil, Ox, Ozil don't score anywhere near enough.

farna_boy

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

We need them all over the pitch, only Giroud, Ramsey, Theo and Podolski when he comes on is a goal threat.

Wilshere, Arteta, Ozil, Ox, Ozil don't score anywhere near enough.

Everyone who is a regular poster here knows how much I rate Giroud and while I think he is a very good player and think he would flourish in a different role, the reason we didn't win the league this year was, when given the chance, Giroud didn't convert enough chances. I'm not saying he is solely responsible for us not winning the league but if we had Suarez/Aguero/whoever in those positions they would have scored. All we needed to do this season was win three more games and with someone who could have converted those chances we would have done it.

Also that is an interesting choice of players:
A player who has been injured most of the season, a defensive midfielder
A player playing his first season in England, and essentially a youth player. Aside from Arteta, and assuming a relatively injury free season, each of those players will add to their tally next season.

Marty McFly

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

Cesc has plenty of power and is very fit, it's Ozil who lacks those qualities.

His lacks of fitness and strength this season was disappointing, he was barely able to walk after the 60th minute in most games this season, for a professional athlete that is not good enough, big improvement needed next year.Soccer is not a stats game, don't care how many assists he has this season, he was a big disappointment.

Cesc will at the least give ous passion, goals and most of all his vision and passing can turn defense into attack in seconds.One of the best in the world and recycling attacks.

Hope he leaves Barca, wasted his best years there.

Ok so take away the fact Ozil is our highest assister and created the most amount if chances do people think we would have been as close to the top of the league as we were?

Of coarse not, you can't discount the stats.

Soccer is a stats game you can be sure as hell every top manager analyses the crap out of everything down to the finest detail. Football is no longer a sport of sure fook it just throw 11 lads out onto the pitch be grand sure.

kronsington

What about M'vila as a possible DM? Haven't seen him mentioned much around here in recent times.. We were linked with him for AGES before he joined Rubin and now looks to be available for transfer

keano_afc

We're killing ourselves with all this speculation. Its going to end in tears. This summer I'm expecting nothing and believing nothing until I see the player on arsenal.com holding the jersey.

Wonda-Boy

Prolly get slaughtered for saying this but the hardest thing to swallow is not the hammerings we get and lose the bottle in the big games, the thing that really really gets me is we are so so close to having the PERFECT SQUAD and we just wont do it and sign 2 world class players. We would be right up there for everything if we only do the business in the transfer market. I would put the club in debt for just 2 seasons and spent the £50-80 million and show we are no longer the also rans of the PL.

Also, no point in getting players in this year and letting an established player leave next year. If we get players in now we have to keep the likes of Podolski and the likes too.

gosplan

keano_afc wrote: »

We're killing ourselves with all this speculation. Its going to end in tears. This summer I'm expecting nothing and believing nothing until I see the player on arsenal.com holding the jersey.

Yeah right,

It's clear as mud we're getting Martinez, Cesc, Grizeman, Aurier and Remy.

In all seriousness though, we should absolutely sign Cesc because,

1: We will not get a striker this summer that's worth going 4-4-2 for. It's defo not Remy.

2: 4-5-1 has been good this year. 4-4-2 should be an option as it was against Hull and we should have a better 2nd striker than Sanogo. If we're sticking with 4-5-1, there has never been anything to suggest that there won't be a bunch of games for Cesc and furthermore that he wouldn't have an important role to play.

3: in another year, Arteta and Rosicky will be done and we wouldn't be able to get better for the same price then.

gandalf

If Cesc is available as all the rumours indicate and we have first option then we should snap him up especially if we are challenging on four fronts and from the experience we had with injuries this year.

gandalf

keano_afc wrote: »

We're killing ourselves with all this speculation. Its going to end in tears. This summer I'm expecting nothing and believing nothing until I see the player on arsenal.com holding the jersey.

Ah but this is the fun part of the off-season Speculation keeps us going until August!!!!

jester77

I would break the bank to get Yaya Toure. He seems a little unsettled, so the right deal could get him. If we signed no one else but him I would be very happy. He is what we need to challenge for the title and I think we would challenging if we had him. I don't think there is any other player out there who could have a bigger impact on the team than he would, even a top CF wouldn't. He's what we have sorely missed since Viera left, Cesc is quality but he wouldn't have as big an impact.

dvemail

jester77 wrote: »

I would break the bank to get Yaya Toure. He seems a little unsettled, so the right deal could get him. If we signed no one else but him I would be very happy. He is what we need to challenge for the title and I think we would challenging if we had him. I don't think there is any other player out there who could have a bigger impact on the team than he would, even a top CF wouldn't. He's what we have sorely missed since Viera left, Cesc is quality but he wouldn't have as big an impact.

Needs to get on the weights though.

https://vine.co/v/MXB29J6hP0U

EuropeanSon

jester77 wrote: »

I would break the bank to get Yaya Toure. He seems a little unsettled, so the right deal could get him. If we signed no one else but him I would be very happy. He is what we need to challenge for the title and I think we would challenging if we had him. I don't think there is any other player out there who could have a bigger impact on the team than he would, even a top CF wouldn't. He's what we have sorely missed since Viera left, Cesc is quality but he wouldn't have as big an impact.

There's as much chance of Barcelona giving us Messi in exchange for Sanogo as there is of us signing Yaya Toure from Man City this summer.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

EuropeanSon wrote: »

There's as much chance of Barcelona giving us Messi in exchange for Sanogo as there is of us signing Yaya Toure from Man City this summer.

Quazzie

jester77 wrote: »

I would break the bank to get Yaya Toure. He seems a little unsettled, so the right deal could get him. If we signed no one else but him I would be very happy. He is what we need to challenge for the title and I think we would challenging if we had him. I don't think there is any other player out there who could have a bigger impact on the team than he would, even a top CF wouldn't. He's what we have sorely missed since Viera left, Cesc is quality but he wouldn't have as big an impact.

We need Fernandinho more than we need Yaya in my opinion.

Skylinehead

Quazzie wrote: »

We need Fernandinho more than we need Yaya in my opinion.

Yeah we already have our own Welsh Toure. No need. A Fernandinho/Martinez is much more needed.

AdamD

Wenger's going to revolutionise football by playing Cesc as the False Right Back

Spanish Johnny

AdamD wrote: »

Wenger's going to revolutionise football by playing Cesc as the False Right Back

And Ozil left back. He tried it out against Bayern at home for a while.

jonneymendoza

cesc we love u

Gringo180

Only dreaming here but imagine switching to 3 at the back, means we could have places for more midfielders Something along the lines of below.

greendom

With that line-up there'd be a lot more goals - at both ends !

dvemail

Apparently David Luiz is off to PSG for the small sum of 50million and he doesn't even start for Chelsea. :eek:
If he is worth that much, how much is Koscienly or Kompany worth? 80 million plus? :pac:

AdamD

dvemail wrote: »

Apparently David Luiz is off to PSG for the small sum of 50million and he doesn't even start for Chelsea. :eek:
If he is worth that much, how much is Koscienly or Kompany worth? 80 million plus? :pac:

Means they'll sign Costa and have plenty left over whilst still complying with FFP. Depressing that one club's idiocy will benefit Chelsea so much.

Soups123

Gringo180 wrote: »

Only dreaming here but imagine switching to 3 at the back, means we could have places for more midfielders Something along the lines of below.

If thats your dreaming would hate to see your nightmares