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€1m Savings

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  • 10-04-2014 10:15pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭


    I was looking for some information.

    If you wanted to save €1m in a capital guaranteed account.

    What interest would you expect to get and how much tax would you pay on that interest.

    Any advice would be great as its part of a study I am doing, comparing returns of investments.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Tidyweb wrote: »
    I was looking for some information.

    If you wanted to save €1m in a capital guaranteed account.

    What interest would you expect to get and how much tax would you pay on that interest.

    Any advice would be great as its part of a study I am doing, comparing returns of investments.
    The five year euro swap rate is around 0.96% so that could be a good place to start for the "risk free rate". You'd need to look at deposit rates for banks or even government bond yields


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Tidyweb


    would 1% risk free -tax free be considered a good return?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Russ T Banger


    Tidyweb wrote: »
    would 1% risk free -tax free be considered a good return?

    Nope, inflation will gnaw away at it, invest in govt bonds, blue chips etc

    Aim for 40% Equity investments, 50% Bonds and fixed income, 10% in cash. Tailor those percentages to your risk appetite


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Tidyweb


    Yes - I know what you mean.

    But if you wanted a totally risk free investment for - lets say €200K.

    Would 1% be considered a good return after tax?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Russ T Banger


    Tidyweb wrote: »
    Yes - I know what you mean.

    But if you wanted a totally risk free investment for - lets say €200K.

    Would 1% be considered a good return after tax?

    No, again inflation. divide it up into the portfolio allocation i suggested tailored to your risk appetite youd do better son


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,540 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Inflation is 0.50% in Europe and about 0.20% in Ireland, so 1.00% beats inflation. Inflation obviously could go higher or lower.
    Tidyweb wrote: »
    Would 1% be considered a good return after tax?

    1.00% is a poor return considering that you could get 2.50% gross AER fixed less 24 EUR in fees per year with a term deposit with KBC.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    OP start by reading and understanding this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominal_interest_rate

    Nominal interest rate vs Real interest rate


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Tidyweb


    http://www.statesavings.ie/Pages/NoLimitonSavings.aspx

    If you look at other state savings the return seems to be alot less


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Tidyweb wrote: »
    would 1% risk free -tax free be considered a good return?

    Inflation is higher so it's a negative real return. DIRT needs to be deducted too.

    p.s. There no such thing as risk free. Banks can and do fail, and so do countries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Tidyweb


    would 1% risk free -tax free be considered a good return?

    I mean is this a good return versus other risk free investments - not relative to inflation


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,768 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Someone who has managed to accumulate €1m would not consider 1% net to be a good return.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Tidyweb wrote: »
    I mean is this a good return versus other risk free investments - not relative to inflation

    Do you understand that risk free rate of return is a theory that exists only in the minds of finance profs....


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