Garda Recruitment - Stage 4

Collielover

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

Regarding the vetting for stage 4.
Did ye get a link to the form with your results for stage 3 or is there a way to download it while waiting for the results?
Thanks.

You get the link to one with your results and the second form with your interview date details.

JoeyJoe93

Time to fire up this thread again.
I don't know if I'm more nervous now after finding out I passed haha
Better dust off the old suit now

thekopend

Did any 1 get date yet. Jesus very little time to prepare!

AVPU

Aye, I got my date..... where's my suit?!!

JoeyJoe93

Got my date too.
Gonna be a nervy week and a bit now of trying to prepare.
I'll probably have to give this year's jazz weekend a miss next week!

Omahony92

I see a lot of mention of community work and stuff like that. Ive never been on a sports team. Hobbies would be snooker, pitch n putt, fishing.

I'm a bit worried I don't have community work done

madlad2013

I got a message on my public jobs message board on Friday stating that I have been invited to interview stage, which is in less than two weeks time. I did receive a link for familiarisation martial and form B, however, I didn't receive the "interview form". Is this normal procedure? Has anybody else been invited to interview and not received this form yet?

JoeyJoe93

madlad2013 wrote: »

I got a message on my public jobs message board on Friday stating that I have been invited to interview stage, which is in less than two weeks time. I did receive a link for familiarisation martial and form B, however, I didn't receive the "interview form". Is this normal procedure? Has anybody else been invited to interview and not received this form yet?

The link should be in your stage 3 results.
Did you open the message on a pc or laptop? For me at least the links don't work on my phone.

So stage 3 results on a pc. If it's not there you'd want to contact PAS

thekopend

Hows everyone getting on with the interview form?

madlad2013

Thanks for the reply. No I didn't get the link. Did you get a date by which it has to be sent back to them?

JoeyJoe93

madlad2013 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. No I didn't get the link. Did you get a date by which it has to be sent back to them?

No problem.
I'd say your best bet is to call PAS in the morning and get them to email it to you. Very odd that it was left out.
I has to be sent out by this Thursday.

Edit: Sorry if you read this before I edited it, I read the message again right after posting.

JoeyJoe93

thekopend wrote: »

Hows everyone getting on with the interview form?

Started it tonight. It's a CV in itself. Gonna take my time with it before I send it off.

How about you?

thekopend

I have to have mine emailed by 22nd and interview is 29th so it has to be sent back before interview

thekopend

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

Started it tonight. It's a CV in itself. Gonna take my time with it before I send it off.

How about you?

Ya just copied and pasted my employment history from cv. Wondering about the relevance to a garda and how much detail do we have to give. Is it based on the 6 competencys for the interview i wonder. Like would we want to be covering those competencys with our job history. What could we put in the additional info section, community service i wonder? Any input from anyone who has it done before is apreciated!

JoeyJoe93

thekopend wrote: »

Ya just copied and pasted my employment history from cv. Wondering about the relevance to a garda and how much detail do we have to give. Is it based on the 6 competencys for the interview i wonder. Like would we want to be covering those competencys with our job history. What could we put in the additional info section, community service i wonder? Any input from anyone who has it done before is apreciated!

I thought about copy n paste but a lot of the cv has no relevance. Like working a till or cleaning means nothing to the role of a garda so I re wrote it. Trying to keep it brief too.
I say it'll be there in front of us in the interview so I say it'd be good to incorporate them if possible.
To be honest those competencies aren't easy. Things like resilience are a head scratcher for me.

Stress levels are up man, I feel like I have the credentials but really need to get my head wrapped round the delivery and even just understand fully what the competencies actually mean like

AVPU

Started it tonight, trying to elaborate on things was grand for a few, but some jobs had ****e all, like bar work

I elaborated on some other stuff though, hopefully it will be enough!!

Collielover

AVPU wrote: »

Started it tonight, trying to elaborate on things was grand for a few, but some jobs had ****e all, like bar work

I elaborated on some other stuff though, hopefully it will be enough!!

I'd say they will question you on bar work in relation to 'serving the public' and 'resilience' as well as 'interpersonal skills' so I wouldn't disregard that as having ****e all to elaborate on!

- how you dealt with the ups and downs of serving the public.
- how you were resilient despite a job that at times is highly stressful and that at times you could face confrontational customers etc
- how you needed good interpersonal skills to deal with customers from verying walks of life etc and of course the inebriated people too

AVPU

Collielover wrote: »

I'd say they will question you on bar work in relation to 'serving the public' and 'resilience' as well as 'interpersonal skills' so I wouldn't disregard that as having ****e all to elaborate on!

- how you dealt with the ups and downs of serving the public.
- how you were resilient despite a job that at times is highly stressful and that at times you could face confrontational customers etc
- how you needed good interpersonal skills to deal with customers from verying walks of life etc and of course the inebriated people too

all of those things are covered in other jobs, and elaborated on, I don't want to say the same for them all. But I'll elaborate none the less. Ta

Collielover

AVPU wrote: »

all of those things are covered in other jobs, and elaborated on, I don't want to say the same for them all. But I'll elaborate none the less. Ta

Try have 2 or 3 examples of each competency and don't worry about overlapping, my panel of interviewers were mad keen on asking questions on my hotel bar and reception work didn't stay on my admin work that I have been doing more recently to it.

My interview form I focused on each job individually on the form tying it to whatever competencies it matched to. Keep it as succint as possible but it is something they will be looking at during your interview and I personally used my own copy before hand as a revision tool so I knew what I wanted to say and get across in the interview

JoeyJoe93

Collielover wrote: »

Try have 2 or 3 examples of each competency and don't worry about overlapping, my panel of interviewers were mad keen on asking questions on my hotel bar and reception work didn't stay on my admin work that I have been doing more recently to it.

My interview form I focused on each job individually on the form tying it to whatever competencies it matched to. Keep it as succint as possible but it is something they will be looking at during your interview and I personally used my own copy before hand as a revision tool so I knew what I wanted to say and get across in the interview

How important are your referees?
School should be okay, might be able to get a second from college (I only did one year so it could be difficult)
Work should be okay.
Then someone I'm not related to but have known five years, could this just be a friend? I can't think of anyone very reputable I could use

AVPU

Educational referees are going to be my problem. I never went to college due to the cost, and my secondary school amalgamated with the two others in town, resulting in several teachers retiring etc. I'm not sure if any teachers I had are even working as a teacher anymore!

JoeyJoe93

AVPU wrote: »

Educational referees are going to be my problem. I never went to college due to the cost, and my secondary school amalgamated with the two others in town, resulting in several teachers retiring etc. I'm not sure if any teachers I had are even working as a teacher anymore!

Call in in person and see who's left?
How long since you did your leaving?
I'm sure there are older people here who might not have a single teacher left in their school from their time there.
If you really wanted I'm sure the school could help you get a past principals number.

Wannabegarda

Lads as a policy my employers dont give character references. Could this be a potential problem also do you need written references. I have plenty others thou?

JoeyJoe93

Wannabegarda wrote: »

Lads as a policy my employers dont give character references. Could this be a potential problem also do you need written references. I have plenty others thou?

You can get a refference from a past employer too if your current ones are no good. I'm pretty sure all employers have an obligation to give a refference though.

It doesn't say anything about any written refferences on form B though reading back I see people talking about them. I'd really like some information on this too.

Wannabegarda

theyll give a basic reference stating that i worked there but i dont know if thats any good to me....time to start looking for obair nua methinks....

JoeyJoe93

Wannabegarda wrote: »

theyll give a basic reference stating that i worked there but i dont know if thats any good to me....time to start looking for obair nua methinks....

From what I saw on this is they check refferences after they pass you so you wouldn't know how much it'll matter. I'm sure they'll understand too
Hopefully the new job will be the AGS for us man

Wannabegarda

ah even still....keep looking it could go wrong.

Padge1987

Hi can I just ask you all my interview form link seems to be wrong it hasn't got the competency skills on it, only 6 parts to my form I got on the link, is this incorrect or has anyone the same problem ?

JoeyJoe93

Padge1987 wrote: »

Hi can I just ask you all my interview form link seems to be wrong it hasn't got the competency skills on it, only 6 parts to my form I got on the link, is this incorrect or has anyone the same problem ?

Mine hasn't any mention of competencies on it. Just your details then career history and what experiences you had relevant to the role of garda trainee.
I think that's right anyway.

Padge1987

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

Mine hasn't any mention of competencies on it. Just your details then career history and what experiences you had relevant to the role of garda trainee.
I think that's right anyway.

Yea see if this is our interview form they most def should be in it as its in the instructions it's on our interview form which they will have a copy, I will ring in the morning to enquire about it so we know.

AVPU

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

Call in in person and see who's left?
How long since you did your leaving?
I'm sure there are older people here who might not have a single teacher left in their school from their time there.
If you really wanted I'm sure the school could help you get a past principals number.

My old school doesn't exist anymore is what I'm saying. 2005 since I did leaving. I'll call to the new school and see if they can help

Wannabegarda

Anyone hav any idea how to relate the job of a labourer to a agarda trainee

JoeyJoe93

Padge1987 wrote: »

Yea see if this is our interview form they most def should be in it as its in the instructions it's on our interview form which they will have a copy, I will ring in the morning to enquire about it so we know.

Did you call them yet Padge?

Padge1987

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

Did you call them yet Padge?

Hey

Yea got through this afternoon so it turns out the form we have is correct, before it was part of the form and then u would have an extra in ur head ready so we just need to av 2 or 3 examples in our head of each one going in

JoeyJoe93

Padge1987 wrote: »

Hey

Yea got through this afternoon so it turns out the form we have is correct, before it was part of the form and then u would have an extra in ur head ready so we just need to av 2 or 3 examples in our head of each one going in

Thanks Padge

At least that gives us extra time to get examples ready and not have worry too much and get specific on the form

thekopend

when people filled in work exp on interview form did ye put in just name of company or address aswell?

AVPU

Vetting form. The bane of my life today :-/

JoeyJoe93

AVPU wrote: »

Vetting form. The bane of my life today :-/

Tell me about it.
But at least we don't have a deadline with it, we just need to print it off and bring it in to the interview.


Thekopend,
I just put the company in as it didn't state the address. But I haven't it finalised at all yet.
Does anybody know what the deadline time is? Is it midnight tomorrow or just office hours?
I wouldn't mind going through it one last time tomorrow evening but I won't be back from work till long after office hours end.

And also with referees, the two general references. One of which can be an employer.
Does the employer need to have known you for more than five years? It's a tad vague on the form.

thekopend

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

Tell me about it.
But at least we don't have a deadline with it, we just need to print it off and bring it in to the interview.


Thekopend,
I just put the company in as it didn't state the address. But I haven't it finalised at all yet.
Does anybody know what the deadline time is? Is it midnight tomorrow or just office hours?
I wouldn't mind going through it one last time tomorrow evening but I won't be back from work till long after office hours end.

And also with referees, the two general references. One of which can be an employer.
Does the employer need to have known you for more than five years? It's a tad vague on the form.

Sound. Im going to send in tonight so that they have it by thursday start of working day. Not too sure about that, i think they might have to, what im wondering is can you put down 2 employers or is it strictly just one and one other.

ollieo

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

Tell me about it.
But at least we don't have a deadline with it, we just need to print it off and bring it in to the interview.


Thekopend,
I just put the company in as it didn't state the address. But I haven't it finalised at all yet.
Does anybody know what the deadline time is? Is it midnight tomorrow or just office hours?
I wouldn't mind going through it one last time tomorrow evening but I won't be back from work till long after office hours end.

And also with referees, the two general references. One of which can be an employer.
Does the employer need to have known you for more than five years? It's a tad vague on the form.

There should be a submission deadline time and date, there was when I completed it.

You should know employer for 5 years also, they want character references.

JoeyJoe93

ollieo wrote: »

There should be a submission deadline time and date, there was when I completed it.

You should know employer for 5 years also, they want character references.

It just said by Thursday. No time.

Ive only been working a year. I've good refferences in that time, better refferences than an awful lot else.
It'd be a real bummer to have to omit them. I think I'll call and ask if it's a total no or if they'll take in to account that I'm young.

ollieo

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

It just said by Thursday. No time.

Ive only been working a year. I've good refferences in that time, better refferences than an awful lot else.
It'd be a real bummer to have to omit them. I think I'll call and ask if it's a total no or if they'll take in to account that I'm young.

In that case I can't imagine it being an issue, I'm a bit older myself haha.

I had to submit by 5 or 6pm on the cut-off day.

Mark010

spoke to PAS today, form must be in by COB Thursday

AVPU

Filled the application form, and sent off, getting through the vetting form is a pain. I don't have exact work dates, just estimates. Should get me through, I left all jobs on a good note (Most were contracts that expired).

Padge1987

JoeyJoe93 wrote: »

Thanks Padge

At least that gives us extra time to get examples ready and not have worry too much and get specific on the form

No problem

I sent mine now just 6 parts and then form b is for interview day? Took me a while to fill up the interview form I better start form b soon lol

JoeyJoe93

I called hrm and they said contrary to the form you don't need to have known the reference for five years.
Also we've until closing tomorrow to send the interview form off.

Wannabegarda

Does the form b have to stamped at a garda station or is it stamped on the day of the interview?

thekopend

Wannabegarda wrote: »

Does the form b have to stamped at a garda station or is it stamped on the day of the interview?

From what iv read its someone from garda hq who stamps it after interview

Wannabegarda

Ok and the form has to be in be midnight tonight or anytime tomorrow?

JoeyJoe93

Wannabegarda wrote: »

Ok and the form has to be in be midnight tonight or anytime tomorrow?

Until office hours end tomorrow.


I'm still humming and hawing over what to put in other relevant details.
What sort of stuff did you lads put in that box?