Planning question

riclad

IF its not shown on the map ,
the boundarys on all sides, should be described in writing on the original deeds or some other document,
the document may be on the council records or at some other government office.
TO get planning permission ,to build the house , these documents ,or copys would be in council records ,
unless the house is very old .

I think these documents were all scanned ,put in digital form by the land comission
a few years ago .

6541

Okay Folks a slight update, I was talking to the Town Engineer and he said he is going to send the architect out to discuss.

He talked some crap about about its now in the urban area and they can provide lights and footpaths at will, I then pointed out that I am going to loose a parking space.
He then went on to ask where was my boundary, I said I don't know but it is usual that this extends to halfway of the boreen (thanks for the advise here)

He then stated that I could get the boundary from the planning permission, I pointed out this house was built in the seventies.

At this point he said he is going to send the Architect out for a chat.
Is there anything else I should look out for ?
Thanks people.

Marcusm

6541 wrote: »

Okay Folks a slight update, I was talking to the Town Engineer and he said he is going to send the architect out to discuss.

He talked some crap about about its now in the urban area and they can provide lights and footpaths at will, I then pointed out that I am going to loose a parking space.
He then went on to ask where was my boundary, I said I don't know but it is usual that this extends to halfway of the boreen (thanks for the advise here)

He then stated that I could get the boundary from the planning permission, I pointed out this house was built in the seventies.

At this point he said he is going to send the Architect out for a chat.
Is there anything else I should look out for ?
Thanks people.

If it was built in the 1970s, would his office or the National Archives have he planning docs?

6541

Marcusm wrote: »

If it was built in the 1970s, would his office or the National Archives have he planning docs?

When the Architect calls I will hit him on that one.

ted1

6541 wrote: »

Hi Folks,

I hope some one here can help, or point me in the right direction.
I live on what would once have been a typical Irish boreen, over the years where we live has been put into the urban area.

The latest is that they are going to put a foot path and street lights up our booren, this bugs me on a number of levels, I don't want either of these. I am told there is noting I can do as we are in the urban area, is this true?

The other thing is I used to park outside my house, now if they put a footpath outside my house I loose my parking space, we are a two car house.
Should I not get compensated for loosing my parking space ?

Thanks for your help.

if you don't own the land how can you expect to be compensated

6541

ted1 wrote: »

if you don't own the land how can you expect to be compensated

That is my whole point I think I do own the land. In Fact I am certain, I recall that this boreen used to be even smaller and after one or two resurfacing it came to the width that it is now.

riclad

ARE you saying theres, maybe no planning permission for your house, or maybe the records are lost,
IF THE records cant be found ,boundary map, info.
the council may decide to give you a certain boundary ,leave it at that .
They could probably build over your parking space ,
unless you have a document to show its within your house ,land boundary.
OF course in the 70s ,all records were on paper,
its been known for deeds to get lost by banks in some cases.
NOT all deeds,or documents have been put on pcs,or digitised .
Some office may have the records ,
but the council does not know where they are.
UNLESS theres walls or fences around the house, when you bought it
or you were shown a map, or text desciption,of the land size ,dimensions.
how can you be sure you own the land.

SOME houses have small bits of land between em,
where its not clear exactly who owns what ,
eg do i own this bit out front, 30 sq ft,
or maybe i own 20 sq ft.
unless you have a document that describes the land site in text form,
or in the form of a boundary map.

6541

riclad wrote: »

ARE you saying theres, maybe no planning permission for your house, or maybe the records are lost,
IF THE records cant be found ,boundary map, info.
the council may decide to give you a certain boundary ,leave it at that .
They could probably build over your parking space ,
unless you have a document to show its within your house ,land boundary.
OF course in the 70s ,all records were on paper,
its been known for deeds to get lost by banks in some cases.
NOT all deeds,or documents have been put on pcs,or digitised .

No i am not, I am very green to this, okay the boundary is not outlined on the deeds, so where will I find my boundary, if Planning permission, where will I get my planning permission. Sorry for being so green.

riclad

I understand since the 70s, some councils may have changed offices ,
the local authority should have all planning permission documents,
for the county.
I have seen old deeds from the 50s, 70s,
which described the house boundarys on 4 sides in text form,
have you got the original full house deeds ?
not just a 1 page summary?
THE council has a planning office which should have planning permits etc

IS there any other office ,or archive that might have boundary info map ?
you can get documents from landcommision website ,28 euro, might be worth trying.
would your neighbours ,right ,left, have deeds, boundary , map,

your boundarys would probably be in line with the neighbours , if the houses are straight in line with your
House . eg in a row.



Land Registry Folio (ownership, covenants)
Check the status of your own land,
View your newly digitised boundaries.
Check that your solicitor registered your land correctly.
Find out if your property is freehold or leasehold (subject to ground rent)
Find out the name and address of the owner of any



see line 3 above.
http://www.landregistryireland.com/

view your boundarys

For €28 get all available data (name address of owners, mortgage details, along with ID maps, outlining the landholding all delivered to your desktop/letterbox.

Check that your solicitor registered your land correctly.
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if they have no info on your house,
i dont think they,ll charge you any money.

6541

riclad wrote: »

I understand since the 70s, some councils may have changed offices ,
the local authority should have all planning permission documents,
for the county.
I HAVE seen deeds from the 50s, 70s,
which described the boundarys on 4 sides in text form,
have you got the original full house deeds ?
THE council has a planning office which should have planning permits etc

Got the full deeds alright and there is nothing on it at all, I guess it is to the planning office so, I will do this after the I have chatted to the Architect. thanks for all your help.

riclad

CAN you not get the documents,folio, map with boundarys, from the link above,
for 28 euro.
online, sent to your pc.
just a suggestion.
a VISUAL map may not exist for some older houses,
just maybe a text document ,with dimension s of site,land,boundarys described in text form.