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Kermit.de.frog

NOT GUILTY of all 10 charges...happening now.





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eviltwin

:mad:

McDermotX

Good

josip

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

NOT GUILTY of all 10 charges...happening now.

Are you at the courts?

Kermit.de.frog

All I can say is the people can no longer complain in my opinion.

Lapin

Bollox to this.

vitani

Same sh*t, different year. Nothing ever changes in this country.

corkonion

This is a great result, it sends out a strong clear message that only the underclasses need fear justice in Ireland, don't forget to pay your water charges.

Amirani

Laws probably need to be changed.

dilallio

Source - http://www.thejournal.ie/anglo-trial-verdict-1418699-Apr2014/

Spring Onion

Fcuking hell.

mike65

Can't someone just run him over?*


























*Preferably Bertie Ahern (might finally get him on something).

smileyj1987

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Laws probably need to be changed.

Then I would have changed the laws and then prosecute him . It's mad that he can be cleared of any wrong doing . Anglo was be dodgiest bank in the world .

kippy

Was anyone really expecting a different outcome in this case?

COYW

He was found innocent in a court of law. He is a free man. Another notch on that post that makes me cringe. It is extremely difficult to get convictions when it comes to this type of activity.

My name is URL

COYW wrote: »

He was found innocent in a court of law. He is a free man. Another notch on that post that makes me cringe.

Well, not exactly

SEPT 23 1989

rotten corrupt country:mad:

Dyr

bollox to that

offences against the state act amended to catch these pricks

internment

****ing anything

eviltwin

What next for him I wonder? I hope he cuts his losses here and fecks off overseas, I would like to think no one will touch him given his reputation but in this country you never know.

MS.ing

wait what, what is he supposed to have done

Pumpkinseeds

Do we have a figure yet for how expensive an excercise in legal futility that this was? I'm guessing the legal fees run into the millions. I wonder if he'll sue the state now for defamation of character or some such nonsense, so that we'll end up paying him?

cletus van damme

Much as I would have liked him to go down two things became apparent assuming the evidence was factual.


1. Drumm seemed to be the real villan
2. The regulator had his hands dirty too and it's fairly unfair to hang Fitz if he had approval from the state body.

That said I'm surprised there weren't more robust charges

I only hope now enda will ask Obama to get the Americans to expel Drumm and extradite him here for flogging

Amirani

MS.ing wrote: »

wait what, what is he supposed to have done

Loaned money to people on the proviso that they use it to invest in Anglo shares.

everdead.ie

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Then I would have changed the laws and then prosecute him . It's mad that he can be cleared of any wrong doing . Anglo was be dodgiest bank in the world .

Can't change the laws and retrospectively apply them only offences after a law is passed can be convicted.

Ok so I assume he technically didn't do anything wrong then. Or at least it couldn't be proven he did?

smileyj1987

everdead.ie wrote: »

Can't change the laws and retrospectively apply them only offences after a law is passed can be convicted.

Ok so I assume he technically didn't do anything wrong then. Or at least it couldn't be proven he did?

I didn't know that thank you for clearing that up .
It's still rotten that he can walk away along with his cronies while a country pays for his mess .

I said

What a great country to do business in any type

William F

Better they tried him in front of the Special Criminal Court. They may of had a better result.

mikom

Glad that's sorted........... now off out to make a few bob to pay for my property tax, Tv licence, Water tax, Universal social charge..........

Dyr

William F wrote: »

Better they tried him in front of the Special Criminal Court. They may of had a better result.

You only try the little people there. Not for the likes of seanie

MadsL

Why so few bankers go to jail

hatrickpatrick

Whatever about the Maple 10, it was the annual hiding of his massive corporate loans to himself which should have been illegal. Evidently it wasn't so he can't be prosecuted for it, but do you see any sign of the government changing the law so it can't happen again?

*crickets*

Muise...

It was the verdict of the majority of the jury. Maybe he has different peers?

rawn

Ah lads, what he did wasn't that bad, it's not like he was importing garlic labelled as apples...

Smidge

Muise... wrote: »

It was the verdict of the majority of the jury. Maybe he has different peers?

To be sure he has different peers. Ones who are as corrupt as sin and have plenty of money.

ThisRegard

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

rotten corrupt country:mad:

It was people like you and I that found him not guilty.

Frank Lee Midere

corkonion wrote: »

This is a great result, it sends out a strong clear message that only the underclasses need fear justice in Ireland, don't forget to pay your water charges.

Oh the underclasses are always ok and probably won't be paying water charges.

Now the working and middle income classes. Pay those charges or jail.

Hank Scorpio

Who did he pay off this time. Ireland the land of corrupt Politicians, bankers and the "ah it will be grand" brigade

Mahou

Without getting in to the legal arguments and the evidence presented which most here haven´t heard.

It feels like another right hook to the face of the Irish people. But when as a people will we lose our temper and fight back?

Or are we too punch drunk to contemplate that?

comongethappy

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Whatever about the Maple 10, it was the annual hiding of his massive corporate loans to himself which should have been illegal.

He will face trial for that later in the year.

wendell borton

What can you saw about this without resorting to very course language.

Stargate

" FitzPatrick did not react as the verdict was read."

Bet he couldn't stop pissing himself laughing with that verdict .

Sala

Majority not unanimous verdict. There was at least one trying.

Tombo2001

corkonion wrote: »

This is a great result, it sends out a strong clear message that only the underclasses need fear justice in Ireland, don't forget to pay your water charges.

Quite the opposite.

Its extremely hard to get a conviction for anything in this country, and if you do then the sentence will probably be laughable.

Adamantium

As an aside aren't property taxes unconstitutional in any free democracy?

I thought the right to own your own property was an unalienble right (the one and only) for a human being.

Aren't you renting from the government of you have to pay them property taxes, so you don't own it. I mean you can't drive a house. It just sits there.

Common sense?

Smidge

Stargate wrote: »

" FitzPatrick did not react as the verdict was read."

Bet he couldn't stop pissing himself laughing with that verdict .

I can almost hear the corks popping on the champagne

tayto lover

Who expected anything different?
There are no rich people in Mountjoy or any other prison in Ireland.
Prisons are for the little men.

Roll on the Local Elections. Between the banking crisis and the extra taxes being forced on the people to pay for it FG and Labour are hopefully in for a battering.

William F

nuxxx wrote: »

Who did he pay off this time. Ireland the land of corrupt Politicians, bankers and the "ah it will be grand" brigade

Attitudes like that can't prevail when so many people are hurting. Our day will come but just not yet...not yet.

ppshay

Such is this world we have fashioned for ourselves.

efb

Anyone actually surprised?

hatrickpatrick

comongethappy wrote: »

He will face trial for that later in the year.

Have there been charges in relation to that incident yet?
To be fair, from what I gather the DPP received several volumes of gigantic files on Anglo from the Gardai, so it stands to reason that there may still be plenty of separate cases to come from that. I wouldn't be assuming he gets off scott free for the whole Anglo era just yet.

The real question now is whether either of his accused colleagues in this case will be convicted over the Maple 10 loans. If they aren't, then a clear message emerges that the Maple 10 deal was not in fact illegal - which gives the government a legislative blueprint for exactly what needs to be outlawed going into the future, to make sure nothing of this sort ever happens again.

If the other two are found not guilty, I suggest we as the Irish people refocus our anger towards the government and demand that they make the necessary legislative changes to outlaw any and all behavior along these lines.

Utopia Parkway

Least surprising news ever. Probably tucking into a 50lb lobster and giant bottle of Dom as I type.