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Pet Passport

  • 17-04-2014 3:10pm
    #1
    marshyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭


    Hi guys i am planning to travel over to the uk for a few days and would love to take my two dogs will i need a pet passport ?? has anyone been over lately Thanks


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  • #2
    andreac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Yes you need a pet passport for your dogs to travel to the UK. They arent too strict on checking them, but, if they do check and you dont have them, your dogs can be taken off you so i wouldnt risk it. It can take a couple of weeks to sort it and they need the Rabies jab 21 days before travel so id sort it asap if you are travelling soon.


  • #3
    marshyc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭marshyc


    Thanks i think i will get it done just in case


  • #4
    aonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    dont they need to be microchipped too?


  • #5
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    aonb wrote: »
    dont they need to be microchipped too?


    Yes, with the details on the passport.


  • #6
    MilanPan!c
    Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    Errr... They certainly don't check if you drive up North.


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  • #7
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    Errr... They certainly don't check if you drive up North.


    No, they don't, but legally they can, if you got pulled over for some reason and they wanted to be difficult, they could ask for it.


  • #8
    andreac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    Errr... They certainly don't check if you drive up North.

    Doesn't apply coming in to the north. It's uk to Republic and vice versa. Uk to north isn't included.


  • #9
    MilanPan!c
    Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    muddypaws wrote: »
    No, they don't, but legally they can, if you got pulled over for some reason and they wanted to be difficult, they could ask for it.

    Suuuree.

    No harm in getting it done either, but realistically animals cross that border every day with no checks and no passports. Just like humans.


  • #10
    MilanPan!c
    Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    andreac wrote: »
    Doesn't apply coming in to the north. It's uk to Republic and vice versa. Uk to north isn't included.

    UK includes NI.


  • #11
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    Suuuree.

    No harm in getting it done either, but realistically animals cross that border every day with no checks and no passports. Just like humans.

    No need for the attitude, just pointing out the legal position. Realistically, animals go across the Irish Sea every day without checks as well, however, if you are stopped and checked, your dog or cat can be impounded and quarantined, and you can be prosecuted. As the law states passports are needed between UK and Eire, then yes, legally you do need it, whether its checked or not is another matter.

    The implementation of the passport rules make no sense, as both the islands of Ireland and GB are rabies free. NI Dept of Ag have said passports are needed between Eire and NI. Ridiculously though, they also state that if you come from NI and transit through Eire onto a ferry and over to GB, you don't need one.


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  • #12
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    UK includes NI.

    I think what she means is if travelling from GB into NI its not checked, as you point out, NI is part of the UK.


  • #13
    MilanPan!c
    Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    muddypaws wrote: »
    No need for the attitude, just pointing out the legal position. Realistically, animals go across the Irish Sea every day without checks as well, however, if you are stopped and checked, your dog or cat can be impounded and quarantined, and you can be prosecuted. As the law states passports are needed between UK and Eire, then yes, legally you do need it, whether its checked or not is another matter.

    The implementation of the passport rules make no sense, as both the islands of Ireland and GB are rabies free. NI Dept of Ag have said passports are needed between Eire and NI. Ridiculously though, they also state that if you come from NI and transit through Eire onto a ferry and over to GB, you don't need one.

    You're reading into it. No attitude here. Just being realistic.


  • #14
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    You're reading into it. No attitude here. Just being realistic.


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    Suuuree.

    hmmm


  • #15
    DBB
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Milanpan!c, some of your replies are most certainly coming across as smart-alecky and argumentative.
    If that's not what you intend, please consider how what you write can be interpreted by the reader, and re-phrase if need be.
    Do not reply to this post on-thread.
    Thanks,
    DBB


  • #16
    andreac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Yes I meant going from GB into NI. Thanks muddy paws.


  • #17
    MilanPan!c
    Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    muddypaws wrote: »
    hmmm

    I want saying that like "sure whatever," but like suuuuuure that's technically true, but the chances of being stopped when going up North are as close to zero as to make no difference, so if you want to be technically accurate, yes, but in reality, many people do it daily and the cost of the passport/chip might make you so a cost benefit analysis and in the end, take a chance.

    Jumping to the assumption that I was saying the post wasn't true or whatever is on you.

    Remember I also said it was a good thing to have done. And of course both of my pets are chipped and have passports.

    But nah. Let's let this thread devolve into a pissing match. That'll be helpful.


  • #18
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    I want saying that like "sure whatever," but like suuuuuure that's technically true, but the chances of being stopped when going up North are as close to zero as to make no difference, so if you want to be technically accurate, yes, but in reality, many people do it daily and the cost of the passport/chip might make you so a cost benefit analysis and in the end, take a chance.

    Jumping to the assumption that I was saying the post wasn't true or whatever is on you.

    Remember I also said it was a good thing to have done. And of course both of my pets are chipped and have passports.

    But nah. Let's let this thread devolve into a pissing match. That'll be helpful.

    I didn't jump to any assumption and I didn't say that you said the post wasn't true. You are absolutely right that the chances of being checked are virtually nil. However, if someone is stopped and has their animal impounded based on the say so of someone on a forum?

    Purely on a cost analysis, getting a passport is much, much cheaper than having a dog impounded and quarantined, the cost of which would have to be covered by the animal's owner.

    Again, the ridiculous thing is that from January 2015, the law is changing again, and passports won't be needed.


  • #19
    DBB
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    MilanPan!c wrote: »
    But nah. Let's let this thread devolve into a pissing match. That'll be helpful.

    MilanPan!c, I have asked you already to stop being argumentative, and as you have been unable to heed that as reflected in posts such as the above quoted, as per my pm I must ask that you do not post in this thread again.
    Thanks,
    DBB


  • #20
    dogluver
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭dogluver


    Muddypaws, You stated at the end of the post that in January 2015 the laws are changing again. What is going to change?


  • #21
    muddypaws
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    dogluver wrote: »
    Muddypaws, You stated at the end of the post that in January 2015 the laws are changing again. What is going to change?

    My apologies, on checking, I thought that it was a done deal, but apparently it still hasn't gone through, but an exemption is due to be brought in between rabies free countries, such as Eire and the UK on 1st January 2015.


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