Reseeding Thread 2014

just do it

agriman27 wrote: »

I reckon the bare spots aren't too bad I'd say it'll cover up alright, sure you could throw a bit of seed on the bad spots and ruffle up and cover over with a rake, I'm impressed with the result never see many photos of reseeding with minimal cultivation

Yeah after spray or first grazing I'll spread a bit on the patches

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

It's measuring between 10 -15cm high. I thought you shouldn't let grass get much higher than 15cm? That's why I'd like to get a graze in sooner rather than later. Ground would have to be dry though as I don't want poaching of the bare patches.

If you graze it though with out sowing something in bare patches it will grow scutch and your back to square one

dharn

Where will the scutch come from if it has been recently burned off, I saw bare patches that stayed bare all winter and well in to spring and then only grew chickweed mostly

Greengrass1

dharn wrote: »

Where will the scutch come from if it has been recently burned off, I saw bare patches that stayed bare all winter and well in to spring and then only grew chickweed mostly

Seen it happen here. Burning off scutch doesn't kill it. Needs to be ploughed in

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

If you graze it though with out sowing something in bare patches it will grow scutch and your back to square one

That's why I'm thinking spray, graze, spread seed on patches and rest until second seed is established. Then depending on growth either graze or take bales.

The weeds so far are growing better where it is bare. Post emergence is probably more important with such a min till approach and old ley.

just do it

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Seen it happen here. Burning off scutch doesn't kill it. Needs to be ploughed in

What do you mean by scutch? Old scutch grass?

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

What do you mean by scutch? Old scutch grass?

White grass. Meadow fescue. Creeping/bent grass

just do it

Yeah, it would kind of defeat the purpose letting that stuff back in.

Brown Podzol

just do it wrote: »

That's why I'm thinking spray, graze, spread seed on patches and rest until second seed is established. Then depending on growth either graze or take bales.

The weeds so far are growing better where it is bare. Post emergence is probably more important with such a min till approach and old ley.

Spray as soon as possible. Get down on your knees and see is there grass on the bare patches. If there is some grass frequent grazing, every 14/15 days will thicken it. Anyway spread extra seed on the bare patches before the stock go into graze, they will press it into the ground with their hooves. Don't cut if at all possible in the first year, grass needs light to the ground/soil to tiller.

just do it

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Spray as soon as possible. Get down on your knees and see is there grass on the bare patches. If there is some grass frequent grazing, every 14/15 days will thicken it. Anyway spread extra seed on the bare patches before the stock go into graze, they will press it into the ground with their hooves. Don't cut if at all possible in the first year, grass needs light to the ground/soil to tiller.

There is some grass in most the patches

Brown Podzol

just do it wrote: »

There is some grass in most the patches

With carefully management, using light stock in wet weather etc it should be fine.

Parishlad

Planning on reseeding about 8 acres late August/early sept. Will be taking second cut hopefully around 20 August. trying to get me head around the idea of spraying a week or so BEFORE cutting. Is this more effective that waiting until its cut and spraying then? What should I be spraying?

On a slightly different topic...have a field with a lot of docks that was cut about 3 weeks ago...will be grazing it for rest of Summer...want to spray the docks but was wondering if I should graze it first or spray first....won't be grazing for another couple of weeks.

mahoney_j

Parishlad wrote: »

Planning on reseeding about 8 acres late August/early sept. Will be taking second cut hopefully around 20 August. trying to get me head around the idea of spraying a week or so BEFORE cutting. Is this more effective that waiting until its cut and spraying then? What should I be spraying?

On a slightly different topic...have a field with a lot of docks that was cut about 3 weeks ago...will be grazing it for rest of Summer...want to spray the docks but was wondering if I should graze it first or spray first....won't be grazing for another couple of weeks.

On reseeding definetly burn off 5 to 7 days before cutting as if u don't you could have to wait 2 to 3 weeks after cutting to have a leaf for spray to stick to and that's time lost.udeally autumn reseeds should be well in by late august.
Docks ,spray soon as ,if left too long they may go to seed andvits too late.spraying early gets a better kill

Parishlad

mahoney_j wrote: »

On reseeding definetly burn off 5 to 7 days before cutting as if u don't you could have to wait 2 to 3 weeks after cutting to have a leaf for spray to stick to and that's time lost.udeally autumn reseeds should be well in by late august.
Docks ,spray soon as ,if left too long they may go to seed andvits too late.spraying early gets a better kill

Thanks j. What would you recommend to spray for reseed? And re docks how long after spraying would it be okay to let cattle in to graze?

Sami23

Parishlad wrote: »

Thanks j. What would you recommend to spray for reseed? And re docks how long after spraying would it be okay to let cattle in to graze?

What are you using on the docks ?

whelan2

Parishlad wrote: »

Thanks j. What would you recommend to spray for reseed? And re docks how long after spraying would it be okay to let cattle in to graze?

doxstar- 7 day stock exclusion

mahoney_j

Parishlad wrote: »

Thanks j. What would you recommend to spray for reseed? And re docks how long after spraying would it be okay to let cattle in to graze?

Roundup or Gallup to burn off before reseed
7 to 10 days after spraying for docks,ifvu have clover use eagle or prospect or any of the clover safe sprays,there crap though and if no clover something like dock star

Parishlad

mahoney_j wrote: »

Roundup or Gallup to burn off before reseed
7 to 10 days after spraying for docks,ifvu have clover use eagle or prospect or any of the clover safe sprays,there crap though and if no clover something like dock star

No clover. Have doxstar bought so 7-10 days will work out good! Thanks for the replies!

just do it

mahoney_j wrote: »

On reseeding definetly burn off 5 to 7 days before cutting as if u don't you could have to wait 2 to 3 weeks after cutting to have a leaf for spray to stick to and that's time lost.udeally autumn reseeds should be well in by late august.
Docks ,spray soon as ,if left too long they may go to seed andvits too late.spraying early gets a better kill

+1 on both counts

Charliebull

5 weeks in, bastard rush is coming in a few places
have sprayer hooked up and ready to go last few evenings but we have had hazy drizzle last few

think i ve left it too late but will spray tonight and graze in 2 weeks

Greengrass1

Charliebull wrote: »

5 weeks in, bastard rush is coming in a few places
have sprayer hooked up and ready to go last few evenings but we have had hazy drizzle last few

think i ve left it too late but will spray tonight and graze in 2 weeks

What are you spraying with?
Did you plough?
If you have a rush problem burn off and plough is only way to get rid

Charliebull

Greengrass1 wrote: »

What are you spraying with?
Did you plough?
If you have a rush problem burn off and plough is only way to get rid

db plus

burned off mulched and power harrowed

will get the bastards when grass gets established,

Greengrass1

Charliebull wrote: »

db plus

burned off mulched and power harrowed

will get the bastards when grass gets established,

Ye ploughing them in really gets rid of them.
We had a problem with them in set aside that was here. Haven't seen any since we ploughed it

highspeed

Going to reseed 5 acres late August. Does anyone spread farmyard manure in the ground before spraying and then plough it in

Greengrass1

highspeed wrote: »

Going to reseed 5 acres late August. Does anyone spread farmyard manure in the ground before spraying and then plough it in

Pep will be doing that. Spray it off spread dung. Pit a a lot on it And plough in. No more than 6 inch's deep

just do it

just do it wrote: »

That's why I'm thinking spray, graze, spread seed on patches and rest until second seed is established. Then depending on growth either graze or take bales.

The weeds so far are growing better where it is bare. Post emergence is probably more important with such a min till approach and old ley.

Sprayer failed to arrive this week. There was 3-4 perfect days for it but unfortunately he does silage as well. Weeds have taken over the bare patches so need to get it sprayed this week. I've seed ready to go out straight after spray.

GrandSoftDay

just do it wrote: »

Sprayer failed to arrive this week. There was 3-4 perfect days for it but unfortunately he does silage as well. Weeds have taken over the bare patches so need to get it sprayed this week. I've seed ready to go out straight after spray.

And that there is why I bought my own sprayer JDI , it's one job that's impossible to get some to do when the weather is right.

just do it

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

And that there is why I bought my own sprayer JDI , it's one job that's impossible to get some to do when the weather is right.

Yeah I think your right. Here on the west coast you can't afford to miss opportunities.

Now how much will I pick up a sprayer for?

Sami23

just do it wrote: »

Yeah I think your right. Here on the west coast you can't afford to miss opportunities.

Now how much will I pick up a sprayer for?

1100 euro for a 400ltr galvanised frame and booms

GrandSoftDay

Sami23 wrote: »

1100 euro for a 400ltr galvanised frame and booms

Yip, got one from whites up the North , delivered and all.

simx

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

And that there is why I bought my own sprayer JDI , it's one job that's impossible to get some to do when the weather is right.

Couldn't agree more, buying a sprayer with cousin in next couple of weeks

Farmer Pudsey

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

And that there is why I bought my own sprayer JDI , it's one job that's impossible to get some to do when the weather is right.

After farming a few years I think after a fertlizer spreader the next purchase should be a sprayer.

just do it

Sprayed tonight .

dharn

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

After farming a few years I think after a fertlizer spreader the next purchase should be a sprayer.

either that or a for sale sign

ABlur

just do it wrote: »

Sprayed tonight .

What chemical did you use?

dharn

Brut

just do it

ABlur wrote: »

What chemical did you use?

Legumex

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Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

After farming a few years I think after a fertlizer spreader the next purchase should be a sprayer.

How often do you use it each year and for what?

Charliebull

whites up north delivered, best purchase here

be surprised how much you use it when you have it, general spraying of pastures at start of year, silage ground, cleaning up and reseeding, well worth it JDI

td5man

Charliebull wrote: »

whites up north delivered, best purchase here

be surprised how much you use it when you have it, general spraying of pastures at start of year, silage ground, cleaning up and reseeding, well worth it JDI

Especially if you have a hand lance.

Farmer Pudsey

just do it wrote: »

How often do you use it each year and for what?

I am using it less and less ever year. At the start I used it to spray all the old swards for weeds. IMO this is the cheapest grass/pasture improvement thing you can do. After that I have used it to spray off ground for reseeding. It also allows me to use post emergence spray on new reseeds. For a few years I used to grow arable silage while reseeding but would be slow to do again. If I do I will only use low levels of barley in the reseed.

Biggest thing with spraying is timing. You need to do it when it suits you not the contractor. A 300L sprayer with a 10 metre boom will suffice on most farms. The Jarmack is a basic sprayer but comes in for around 1K which is not expensive as farm machinery goes. If you get up on sprays it will only cost 10-15/acre to clean up pasture. This will increase grass production by 25%+( a weed infection rate of 20% which is not high).

cj maxx

Any one got a link to whites or can tell me exactly which White ?
Googled whites farm machinery and got
4 results !

GrandSoftDay

cjmc wrote: »

Any one got a link to whites or can tell me exactly which White ?
Googled whites farm machinery and got
4 results !

Whites of portadown. http://www.whitesofbocombra.co.uk

TheSunderz

Reseeded a field about 3 weeks ago and noticed some leaves contain a few black aphids. Should i be concerned and spray or are they only a small threat?

td5man

How does clanrye compare with tyrella?

Greengrass1

td5man wrote: »

How does clanrye compare with tyrella?

Never heard of it. Is it new out?

td5man

Here

Greengrass1

td5man wrote: »

Here

Looks a very good grass. Wouldn't be afraid of sowing it if it was in a mix

td5man

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Looks a very good grass. Wouldn't be afraid of sowing it if it was in a mix

Like this.

Greengrass1

td5man wrote: »

Like this.

I'm very happy with the grass I sowed this spring that had those first two and tyrella in.
Ye I'd use it. Should be as good