Will I go to prison? Would I get deported?

Newgirl19

So I got shop lifting in tesco today. The Garda was called and I got evicted I got a court date. The amount was 77 euro in total.
This is my first time in court. Will I get sent to prison? I'm 20 will it be in my records for ever now
I'm not Irish will I get sent home? I had a previous warning for something else. Trying to use a ATM card that's wasn't mine but no money taken.

pcbscott

sadly you will probably get a slap on the wrists - perhaps you should try not being such a scumbag?

Newgirl19

pcbscott wrote: »

sadly you will probably get a slap on the wrists - perhaps you should try not being such a scumbag?

But will I go to prison? Or be deported?


I learn my lesson

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Where are you from?

Atlantis50

Hopefully.

ElChe32

5 years hard labour in the gulag in Tubbercurry I'd say.

Sparks43

Prison nope

Unless you stole garlic and called them apple's

Then you get six and a half years

Newgirl19

Sparks43 wrote: »

Prison nope

Unless you stole garlic and called them apple's

Then you get six and a half years

????

brian_t

Newgirl19 wrote: »

????

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0309/314490-begleyp/

jacksie66

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MrWard

Newgirl19 wrote: »

So I got shop lifting in tesco today. The Garda was called and I got evicted I got a court date. The amount was 77 euro in total.
This is my first time in court. Will I get sent to prison? I'm 20 will it be in my records for ever now
I'm not Irish will I get sent home? I had a previous warning for something else. Trying to use a ATM card that's wasn't mine but no money taken.

Hopefully you get deported and barred from reentering the EU. We have enough tramps, ta. Trying to use someone else's atm card. Scum.

In all likelihood you will get a small fine and be an attendant of Shatters next 'New Irish Shindig'.

Witcher

MrWard wrote: »

Hopefully you get deported and barred from reentering the EU. We have enough tramps, ta.

How do you know she's not from the EU?

Frynge

Blay wrote: »

How do you know she's not from the EU?

Don't think you can be deported to the eu, extradited yes, deported not sure.

I'm sensing troll but then again you are clearly a criminal so it is possible that you are actually just this stupid.

MrWard

Blay wrote: »

How do you know she's not from the EU?

You're probably right, she is likely an EU citizen. So deportation would be meaningless. Remember the Lithuanian lad that was shot in Rathcoole business park? He was deported a few weeks previous.

cruais

I bet you if this was in your native country, you would have strongly thought twice before you robbed. The problem in Ireland is that people have absolutely no fear of the justice system.

Maybe you should have thought of the consequences of your actions before you committed the crimes. Go earn an honest living, instead of robbing from the people who do.

Hootanany

Has to be a wind up

Santa Cruz

Sparks43 wrote: »

Prison nope

Unless you stole garlic and called them apple's

Then you get six and a half years

Call it what it was, massive tax fraud. The next time you look at your tax bill and wonder why you pay so much think of Mr Tax Evader

Santa Cruz

Caught twice, one for shoplifting and the other for ATM fraud. Unless you are a very stupid criminal the odds are that you have got away a lot of times.
Plane for Mr. Fraudster please.

Pro Hoc Vice

Frynge wrote: »

Don't think you can be deported to the eu, extradited yes, deported not sure.

I'm sensing troll but then again you are clearly a criminal so it is possible that you are actually just this stupid.

Yes you can. It's called an expulsion order. But could not be used in the OP's case.

Arthur Beesley

Newgirl19 wrote: »

So I got shop lifting in tesco today. The Garda was called and I got evicted I got a court date. The amount was 77 euro in total.
This is my first time in court. Will I get sent to prison? I'm 20 will it be in my records for ever now
I'm not Irish will I get sent home? I had a previous warning for something else. Trying to use a ATM card that's wasn't mine but no money taken.

Probably best to leave the country right now and never come back, just in case.

Newgirl19

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Yes you can. It's called an expulsion order. But could not be used in the OP's case.

What's OP?

Paulw

Newgirl19 wrote: »

What's OP?

OP = Original Poster = YOU.

Pro Hoc Vice

Newgirl19 wrote: »

What's OP?

Original Poster.

Sam Jam

Newgirl19 wrote: »

What's OP?

You are the OP.

OP = opening poster. i.e. the thread starter.



Guts for your honesty but the fact is you're now a criminal. If you're being honest about this being your first offense I would say that you'll get a fine and maybe community service. I'm not sure really, I could be wrong about that. Likelihood is that you will not be deported.

That said please mend your ways. Keep better company and give up silly expensive habits.

You're better than that. You're young with all your life ahead of you. Don't mess up your life now.

GerB40

I agree with most of the posters here. We've enough problems with native criminals, there's no desire for imported ones too. If you're story is genuine I personally hope you get fúcked out of the country never to return. Ireland must seem like a haven for non national criminals...

P.S It's people like you who give honest, hard working non nationals a bad name. For that, you should be ashamed.

P.P.S You don't deserve the luxury of Irish prisons..

Arthur Beesley

Paulw wrote: »

OP = Original Poster = YOU.

OP = Original Poster = YOU == criminal.

Newgirl19

Sam Jam wrote: »

You are the OP.

OP = opening poster. i.e. the thread starter.



Guts for your honesty but the fact is you're now a criminal. If you're being honest about this being your first offense I would say that you'll get a fine and maybe community service. I'm not sure really, I could be wrong about that. Likelihood is that you will not be deported.

That said please mend your ways. Keep better company and give up silly expensive habits.

You're better than that. You're young with all your life ahead of you. Don't mess up your life now.

I know I was so stupid but this was more than a wake up call to me. After this I will leave a straight life
Thanks for not offending me.

Sam Jam

Newgirl19 wrote: »

I know I was so stupid but this was more than a wake up call to me. After this I will leave a straight life
Thanks for not offending me.

Watch your peer pressure, keep decent company, don't be lazy and be thankful for what you've got, after that keep a positive attitude and you should have a happy life.

This episode in your life will be a distant memory to you. Face up to what you did now in court, accept it and get passed it. Then bin those memories and get on with your life.

delthedriver

Newgirl19 wrote: »

I know I was so stupid but this was more than a wake up call to me. After this I will leave a straight life
Thanks for not offending me.

I hope you have learned a valuable lesson.


Young lady, please get on with your life , you have a lot of living to do!


Stay on the straight and narrow line, enjoy life

Newgirl19

Sam Jam wrote: »

Watch your peer pressure, keep decent company, don't be lazy and be thankful for what you've got, after that keep a positive attitude and you should have a happy life.

This episode in your life will be a distant memory to you. Face up to what you did now in court, accept it and get passed it. Then bin those memories and get on with your life.

That's what I plan to do. I feel really stupid
And once it all over I will live a straight life

delthedriver

Newgirl19 wrote: »

That's what I plan to do. I feel really stupid
And once it all over I will live a straight life

Wishing you the very best for your future

johnnyskeleton

If you're not working you should tell the judge that and ask about legal aid. Or contact a solicitor in advance and ask them about legal aid

Shady Tady

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

If you're not working you should tell the judge that and ask about legal aid. Or contact a solicitor in advance and ask them about legal aid

It will probably be adjourned 5 times at the behest of the solicitor and cost the state thousands! That's the real theft in all of this!

ElChe32

I can't believe some of you "liking" her "OH I will change" post. The only reason "she" now will change is because "she" got caught. She was more than happy to shop lift 77€ worth of stuff from a shop simply because she didn't have the money to pay for it. How many struggling families in Ireland would love to pilfer 77€ worth of stuff to keep them going during the week but they don't because they have a moral decency. "She" was more than happy to use someone's bank card. Anyone here had their card stolen before/identity stolen? The amount of shíte you have to go through to sort that all out is unreal. Miss Criminal it annoys me beyond belief that our justice system is as castrated as it is. A year in prison would help you "change".

"I feel really stupid for this"....bollix...you feel stupid because you got caught TWICE.

Newgirl19

ElChe32 wrote: »

I can't believe some of you "liking" her "OH I will change" post. The only reason "she" now will change is because "she" got caught. She was more than happy to shop lift 77€ worth of stuff from a shop simply because she didn't have the money to pay for it. How many struggling families in Ireland would love to pilfer 77€ worth of stuff to keep them going during the week but they don't because they have a moral decency. "She" was more than happy to use someone's bank card. Anyone here had their card stolen before/identity stolen? The amount of shíte you have to go through to sort that all out is unreal. Miss Criminal it annoys me beyond belief that our justice system is as castrated as it is. A year in prison would help you "change".

Thanks for ur opinion

oldyouth

delthedriver wrote: »

Wishing you the very best for your future

Gobsmacked.

If this is not a wind up, I hope the State takes a hard line with you and you become another country's problem

GerB40

Shady Tady wrote: »

It will probably be adjourned 5 times at the behest of the solicitor and cost the state thousands! That's the real theft in all of this!

No, you're wrong. The real theft is the ACTUAL THEFT. Laws were broken so justice should be served. We could go on an on about retrials, solicitors milking every penny out of every case etc but the fact is under Irish law when you steal you (should) get punished.

GerardKeating

Newgirl19 wrote: »

So I got shop lifting in tesco today. The Garda was called and I got evicted I got a court date. The amount was 77 euro in total.
This is my first time in court. Will I get sent to prison? I'm 20 will it be in my records for ever now
I'm not Irish will I get sent home? I had a previous warning for something else. Trying to use a ATM card that's wasn't mine but no money taken.

So you Shoplifted "Today" (a Bank Holiday weekend) and are already

• Evicted
• Got a Court Date

Did not realise things were this efficient...

Shady Tady

GerB40 wrote: »

No, you're wrong. The real theft is the ACTUAL THEFT. Laws were broken so justice should be served. We could go on an on about retrials, solicitors milking every penny out of every case etc but the fact is under Irish law when you steal you (should) get punished.

Both thefts!

Gone West

Wind-up

Cucking Funt

If its not a wind up, I hope you are deported to hell, as a man who got his ATM card done at the time he was facing life saving treatment. Once a thief always a thief, leave the country please madam

Snake

She's been cross posting this in 3 forums. One of them was the courier forum.. I think she's either stupid, or she's a troll.

Bluefoam

This sounds like a wind up. I wouldn't be surprised if the OP was a journalist looking for tastey quotes to write about how racist people are...

Snake

Foreigners don't belong. It's not good enough to take our jobs, now they have to take our food. Deport them all, send the bastards home to be fecked. WE DONT WANT THEM, DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING.


Is that tasty enough?

Shady Tady

Newgirl 19 what would happen if someone did what you did in your homeland and got caught?

Snake

Shady Tady wrote: »

Newgirl 19 what would happen if someone did what you did in your homeland and got caught?

They get sent here.

Newgirl19

retrogamefan wrote: »

Foreigners don't belong. It's not good enough to take our jobs, now they have to take our food. Deport them all, send the bastards home to be fecked. WE DONT WANT THEM, DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING.


Is that tasty enough?

Very....thanks

Nonoperational

Sparks43 wrote: »

Prison nope

Unless you stole garlic and called them apple's

Then you get six and a half years

It's quite amazing the way people can't see the main issue in that case as being serious tax evasion just because apples and garlic are mentioned.

johnnyskeleton

Shady Tady wrote: »

It will probably be adjourned 5 times at the behest of the solicitor and cost the state thousands! That's the real theft in all of this!

70% of made up facts are made up. It's about 200 quid, and would be exceptionally rare to have 5 adjournments

Snake

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

70% of made up facts are made up. It's about 200 quid, and would be exceptionally rare to have 5 adjournments

Spending more to get her legal aid than she robbed. Problem with this country is *put over dramatic issues here*

walrusgumble

Newgirl19 wrote: »

So I got shop lifting in tesco today. The Garda was called and I got evicted I got a court date. The amount was 77 euro in total.
This is my first time in court. Will I get sent to prison? I'm 20 will it be in my records for ever now
I'm not Irish will I get sent home? I had a previous warning for something else. Trying to use a ATM card that's wasn't mine but no money taken.

Re criminal charge: highely unlikely to get prison.

Re immigration issues, the warning and conviction will come to the attention OC the minister. If you have status under EU law via marriage etc, then EU law makes it rather difficult to remove you.

If status is via Irish Immigration law, the same issues to consider are

Length if time in Ireland, the basis of being in Ireland, parentage to any Irish / EU children, marriage to Irish / EU/ Refugee spouses., whether you work, whether your country of orginates is deemed safe, previous criminal record if any, likelihood of committing offences.

What's the difference with EU immigration law and Irish? The latter is purely discretionary while the former has strict rules and precdent and a clear directive. (eu law says it aint enough to just have convictions, you must show a likelihood of re offending, when looming at the nature of the offence and other circumstances)

If you are a stamp 2 student, that might have problems when renewing.

I would not be too worried.

If, however, you intend to Naturalused, you must disclose your convictions, failure normally means automatic refusal. Depend on your circumstances, and otherwise "good conduct" you might be okay, at least with the current Minister. All depends on the facts

You really need to stay out of trouble.