David Moyes sacked

SlickRic

poetic really.

David Moyes would be the first manager that Manchester United have sacked since 1986... One final record.

ThirdMan

KungPao wrote: »

Reports coming in that Steve McClaren is being lined up as Moyes' replacement.

Makes sense. I heard he does a good Scottish accent.

Paully D

CR 7 wrote: »

Have any Coronation Street actors confirmed it?

Roy Cropper and Les Battersby were overhead talking about it in the Rovers by Norris.

@evilkagawa

"@evilkagawa: United no change manger 25 year.
Kagawa - 2 year United...2 manager gone!
Slayer-a-making

MisterAnarchy

Joe Kinnear and Mike Bassett being heavily tipped as new management team.

Tinie

Will this go down in history as the biggest failure of a manager appointment in football?

poolboy

Joke of a club 3 managers in 15 months :pac:

McSasquatch

Tinie wrote: »

Will this go down in history as the biggest failure of a manager appointment in football?

No.

Utopia Parkway

I hope they let Moyes keep his state of the art whiteboards and iPads.

Shane St.

So happy this is finally happening.

Fudge You

Tinie wrote: »

Will this go down in history as the biggest failure of a manager appointment in football?

No, just no. Have you watched football in the last 10 years?

The_Kew_Tour

This better happen.

Or I will be really really really really annoyed.

Like really annoyed.

sea_monkey

Can United please re-hire all of the backroom staff that moyes sacked?

Ulysses Gaze

Tinie wrote: »

Will this go down in history as the biggest failure of a manager appointment in football?

Woy to Liverpool beats Moyes to Utd.

Dozen Wicked Words

Party time in the Moyes house. 5 years worth of contract to be paid up.

Turtwig

Paully D wrote: »

I'd be utterly amazed if he resigned, thus losing out on significant compensation. Though both parties might be happy to spin it with that resignation angle I'd be very surprised if he wasn't paid a lot of money to go.

Typical of a Scotsman to get six years wages for one years work mind :pac:

Maybe he was also getting payment from other clubs too? In an seriousness I'd say the Glazers were wily enough to have their contract compensation determined by his performances.

5starpool wrote: »

No trophies? I think you are forgetting the brilliant charity shield triumph.

Oh yeah I did. Stop the presses! Get a petition going, this is blasphemy! Moyes deserves another season!
(Wonder, if there will be a kickstarter campaign or petition?:D)

enfant terrible

Tinie wrote: »

Will this go down in history as the biggest failure of a manager appointment in football?

One of the biggest yes.

Ulysses Gaze

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Woy to Liverpool beats Moyes to Utd.

Really?

From Champions to 7th is quite a feat

Agueroooo

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Woy to Liverpool beats Moyes to Utd.

Not. A.Chance

Utopia Parkway

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Woy to Liverpool beats Moyes to Utd.

Liverpool finished 7th the season before Hodgson took over. United were champions.

Roy was crap but very difficult to argue that he made a bigger hames of it than Moyes has.

Alfred Borden

Van Gaal wont restore them to what they were. top four probably though and a lot of fall outs. Defo could see RVP captain, rooney to chelsea.

The_Kew_Tour

No Moyes was worse then Woy or Roy or whatever ya call him

Will I Amnt

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Party time in the Moyes house. 5 years worth of contract to be paid up.

No chance is he getting a 5 year pay off. Not a hope in hell.

A_Sober_Paddy

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

I feel sorry for Moyes. He had a secure job at Everton, and took a gamble by leaving for Man.United. Now only a year later he's out of a job with his reputation ruined.

He'll end up back at Everton, when Martinez goes to Arsenal or Spurs

Liamalone

Poor show from United after all the waffle that the manager will be given time, waffle waffle waffle.

smileyj1987

Will I Amnt wrote: »

No chance is he getting a 5 year pay off. Not a hope in hell.

All depends what the contract states .

Will I Amnt

smileyj1987 wrote: »

All depends what the contract states .

Exactly. Not a hope in hell.

tayto lover

I really think we should start a petition to keep Moyes at United.
He is doing a great job and is just what they need.

micar

How do they make the announcement? Is it when the Stock Exchange opens in the morning?

LuckyLloyd

Liamalone wrote: »

Poor show from United after all the waffle that the manager will be given time, waffle waffle waffle.

Utd and their fans are the same as any other club. Nothing special - in today's game he was always a dead man walking with that level of performance.

fatherted1969

Writing on the wall really the last couple of games. Team looks good on paper but useless in performance. When the players aren't performing for you the games up

Pudsy33

Liamalone wrote: »

Poor show from United after all the waffle that the manager will be given time, waffle waffle waffle.

I cant think of one thing that happened this season that would make my believe Moyes could turn it around. City or Chelsea would have sacked him earlier. Its the right choice.

Richard Hillman

Eamonn Holmes has confirmed it. I'm waiting for the holy trinity to be complete when Mick Hucknell and Manny from the Stone Roses inform us that the news is true before I believe it.

smileyj1987

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Exactly. Not a hope in hell.

Well you would be a foolish person to sign a contract that states no pay off if you fail .

5starpool

Surely most of those contracts these days stipulate a maximum payout of a year or something?

If utd can get Klopp they would be crazy not to go for him. Simeone probably not ready to leave Atletico yet imo. If Klopp not available then surely van Gaal would be a safe pair of hands for getting back towards the top. I can't see Giggs as being anything more than an interim coach surely.

spiralism

sea_monkey wrote: »

Can United please re-hire all of the backroom staff that moyes sacked?

If it's Louis Van Gaal, he'll be hiring his own guys and will tell anybody suggesting otherwise to **** off.

ricero

fergie got it wrong

barone

i for one would like to send out my heartfelt thanks to david moyes for the season he has just provided to manchester utd football club.
i did not think when he was appointed that it would turn out worse for them then id hoped,but he has surpassed my greatest expectations,for that david,and from the majority of lfc fans id imagine,from the bottom of our hearts ..



THANK YOU.

fatherted1969

Liamalone wrote: »

Poor show from United after all the waffle that the manager will be given time, waffle waffle waffle.

Think he would have gotten plenty of time if there was a plan in place but no excuse for cantering to title by 11pts last year and struggling for 7th this year. Don't care how much of an overhaul the team needs, anyway its still all speculation at the moment

ThirdMan

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Well you would be a foolish person to sign a contract that states no pay off if you fail .

The terms of his contract would have included performance targets.

sabat

The Glazers should do the job properly this time and remove Ferguson from the club completely. If he had any sense of decorum he'd resign for the Moyes decision anyway.

spiralism

Raf32 wrote: »

Van Gaal wont restore them to what they were. top four probably though and a lot of fall outs. Defo could see RVP captain, rooney to chelsea.

Rooney on a new deal though, he may fall out with him but would be going nowhere. RVP would be captain though in all likelihood

He'd cause absolute chaos but would leave the club in a good spot. He's had success everywhere and built great teams. Ajax 95 are one of the greatest sides ever put together and they went both a league and european campaign unbeaten that year. Bayern right now even have a considerable stamp from him, he signed Robben, brought Kroos, Badstuber and Muller through and converted Schweinsteiger from a winger to a Central Midfielder.

Utopia Parkway

5starpool wrote: »

Surely most of those contracts these days stipulate a maximum payout of a year or something?

If utd can get Klopp they would be crazy not to go for him. Simeone probably not ready to leave Atletico yet imo. If Klopp not available then surely van Gaal would be a safe pair of hands for getting back towards the top. I can't see Giggs as being anything more than an interim coach surely.

Simeone doesn't speak any English. Not as big a deal as it would have been once but I don't see him coming to England any time soon.

Klopp maybe but Honigstein seems fairly adamant that Klopp to Utd has almost zero per cent chance of happening.

Aidy Boothroyd a decent shout?

Degag

sabat wrote: »

The Glazers should do the job properly this time and remove Ferguson from the club completely. If he had any sense of decorum he'd resign for the Moyes decision anyway.

Remove a man who served the club for nearly 30 years and brought unprecedented success - because he put his faith in Moyes?

:rolleyes:

MisterAnarchy

micar wrote: »

How do they make the announcement? Is it when the Stock Exchange opens in the morning?

NYSE is open today .

Dozen Wicked Words

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Aidy Boothroyd a decent shout?

How is A*** B**th**yd not included in the swear filter? Now let us never speak of him again.

enfant terrible

Liamalone wrote: »

Poor show from United after all the waffle that the manager will be given time, waffle waffle waffle.

Nope United are absolutely right to sack him ,failed every possible minimum expectation for their season.

Mars Bar

SkySportsNews: Manchester Utd tell us David Moyes IS still manager - but we understand he could learn his fate in the next 24 hours. More #SSN from 1730

Paully D

fatherted1969 wrote: »

Writing on the wall really the last couple of games. Team looks good on paper but useless in performance. When the players aren't performing for you the games up

Does it even look that good on paper?

De Gea is fine, sure. Vidic and Ferdinand are not interested/finished. Jones and Smalling not near developed enough yet. I was an Evra fan but he's been shocking this year and Buttner is certainly not the answer.

Their wingers are all below par for a team expected to challenge for the title. Carrick is fine but Fellaini nowhere near good enough.

Rooney, Van Persie, Mata all certainly good enough and excellent but without dropping one of Rooney or Van Persie, Mata can't really be played in his best position.

Major surgery needed on that squad and yet Moyes has spent circa £60m.

If I was the new manager, in order to make them title challengers again I'd be looking to sign arguably two top CB, a full-back, three MF's (yes, three, two wingers included as part of that if you want to play with some with) and going with the below. Rafael could probably be replaced too in all honesty.

The new manager for me also needs to make a decision on what to do with the front three. A tough decision needs to be made and one sold. You could probably recoup most of the money on Mata from PSG but Van Persie is 31 and picking up injuries again. Like I say, a tough decision, but something needs to be done as playing all three isn't going to work.

De Gea

Rafael CB CB LB

Carrick

MF----CM

---

MF

Mata/Rooney

Rooney/Van Persie

They need a serious amount of work and realistically you're looking at circa £150m to turn that team around. Sell one of the front three and Fellaini and you'd probably get a third of that back.

jackthelad321

Once these rumours start, it's only a matter of time. Even if he wasn't on the absolute verge, the media storm will cause it to happen. Was the same with AVB. I can't see any way back for him. I do feel a bit for the guy, I really do, but he has made some list of mistakes, and broken some long-standing records in the process. He cannot seem to make any players like him, or play for him, except perhaps Rooney. And he was awful yesterday. They all look miserable. And these are proven winners, no matter what you say about their age and ability. I'm sure a lot of managers would have been marginalised coming in after such a period under Ferguson, but I can't see any bona fide winners coming in and alienating themselves so much or seeming so inept. It would have been a tough season for them no doubt, but David's tenure thusfar has been as bad as AVB's at Chelsea if not worse.