Scottish Independence discussion area

The_Kew_Tour

I got the result spot on, sadly.

Some of the British lovers here are ****ing deluded too.

Lnaa

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I got the result spot on, sadly.

Some of the British lovers here are ****ing deluded too.

Hyperbole.

The_Kew_Tour

Lnaa wrote: »

Hyperbole.

Yes you are

Grandpa Hassan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I got the result spot on, sadly.

Some of the British lovers here are ****ing deluded too.

Ridiculous comment. Some people can just let go of the bitterness

The_Kew_Tour

Grandpa Hassan wrote: »

Ridiculous comment. Some people can just let go of the bitterness

What Bitterness?

Grandpa Hassan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What Bitterness?

Oh, come on....

Red Nissan

I call for a recount.

And keep counting :cool: until we get the result we want. :pac:

cloud493

The bitterness some people here seem to possess that Scotland didn't seem to have the same craving for independence and separation from the UK Eire did. Hence why we have braveheart quotes and people referring to the scots as cowards and idiots.

The_Kew_Tour

Grandpa Hassan wrote: »

Oh, come on....

So you can't answer the question?

Thought as much....

LorMal

LorMal wrote: »

It will be a resounding no. Shock 60%+ landslide. Alex Salmond to resign.

I called this on Wednesday. But not gloating at all - very sad to see Alex Salmonds resignation. Excellent politician and looked like a very nice man. He did a superb job for his party - they were a bunch of oddballs until he took the leadership.
I wish him well

Lnaa

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Yes you are

"We want independence for Scotland, we want Scotland to be part of the EU"... and I'm hyperbole? ...lmao.

Lnaa

LorMal wrote: »

I called this on Wednesday. But not gloating at all - very sad to see Alex Salmonds resignation. Excellent politician and looked like a very nice man. He did a superb job for his party - they were a bunch of oddballs until he took the leadership.
I wish him well

Are you serious? That muffin has resigned? I was disappointed by the vote, but him going has cheered me up.

tayto lover

LorMal wrote: »

I called this on Wednesday. But not gloating at all - very sad to see Alex Salmonds resignation. Excellent politician and looked like a very nice man. He did a superb job for his party - they were a bunch of oddballs until he took the leadership.
I wish him well

and the brave 45% who hadn't put money before independence.

The_Kew_Tour

Lnaa wrote: »

"We want independence for Scotland, we want Scotland to be part of the EU"... and I'm hyperbole? ...lmao.

Is that you Kay Burley?

Red Nissan

cloud493 wrote: »

Hence why we have braveheart quotes .

I'm officially enrolling him into Michael Collin's army as a Major Braveheart Wallace. Instrumental in the defeat of the English and freeing the oppressed Irish and we will add a little blue cross in the trickcolour in the green part from now on.

A Dub in Glasgo

cloud493 wrote: »

The bitterness some people here seem to possess that Scotland didn't seem to have the same craving for independence and separation from the UK Eire did. Hence why we have braveheart quotes and people referring to the scots as cowards and idiots.

To be fair, 45% did vote for independence and a couple of guys in my work spoke bad things about the No voters. An example is the over 60's who the vast majority voted No. Cuts are coming to the budgets and they were saying the areas to look at is the 'Free Bus pass' and 'Free elderly care'. The bus pass one should be cut, not sure about the elderly care one although means testing may have to be introduced

Lnaa

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Is that you Kay Burley?

Don't you get it yet? All Salmond wanted Scotland to be free from was England. He wanted Scotland in the EU, that's how much he valued Scottish sovereignity.

Richard Hillman

"I emptied the privy this morning"

William Wallace

The_Kew_Tour

Lnaa wrote: »

Don't you get it yet? All Salmond wanted Scotland to be free from was England. He wanted Scotland in the EU, that's how much he valued Scottish sovereignity.

Salmond saw a future in which Scotland could prosper by itself.

A man who had faith in himself, a Scottish Government and the Scottish people.

Most just ran away from that.

Grandpa Hassan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

So you can't answer the question?

Thought as much....

Everyone that doesn't agree with you is a 'british lover'. Your own words

Lnaa

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Salmond saw a future in which Scotland could prosper by itself.

A man who had faith in himself, a Scottish Government and the Scottish people.

Most just ran away from that.

What Scotland by itself? A Scotland part of the EU is very definitely not a Scotland by itself.

The_Kew_Tour

Grandpa Hassan wrote: »

Everyone that doesn't agree with you is a 'british lover'. Your own words

And yet you still have not answered the question.

Run away sure....

moxin

Lnaa wrote: »

Again, 100 latchycos Scotland does not make.

Do you condemn them?

Some video from the BBC http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-29277527

A Dub in Glasgo

Lnaa wrote: »

What Scotland by itself? A Scotland part of the EU is very definitely not a Scotland by itself.

Like Ireland as well and Germany and France and Spain ....?

Lnaa

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

And yet you still have not answered the question.

Run away sure....

That man is running away from nothing. He'd support devolution for Newcastle or Tyneside in a heartbeat, he's said as much. This issue has far more levels than a simple anti-England agenda.

The_Kew_Tour

Lnaa wrote: »

What Scotland by itself? A Scotland part of the EU is very definitely not a Scotland by itself.

Can people not get it into there head that the Government too Southern England priorities first before it gave a dam about Northern England and good old Scotland.

Christ they even said they give Scotland more power. Lucky them eh.

The_Kew_Tour

Lnaa wrote: »

That man is running away from nothing. He'd support devolution for Newcastle or Tyneside in a heartbeat, he's said as much. This issue has far more levels than a simple anti-England agenda.

Lol

I'm not anti England.

Jesus Christ...and yes he is running away.

moxin

And vote rigging for the No side, so obvious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBZi6HqDwcQ

Grandpa Hassan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Salmond saw a future in which Scotland could prosper by itself.

A man who had faith in himself, a Scottish Government and the Scottish people.

Most just ran away from that.

He was driving independence. The burden was on him to make the case. To put a structure and a coherent plan around the dream. He failed to do that. And that was what lost it. Everyone blames the negative no campaign, but if he had had a more coherent plan he could have taken the wind out of their sails. There were just too many gaps in the plan in the end. Gave the no campaign so much to work with

Not everyone is going to believe that 'faith' will pay the bills

cloud493

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Lol

I'm not anti England.

Jesus Christ...

Course your not :rolleyes:

The_Kew_Tour

cloud493 wrote: »

Course your not :rolleyes:

Well I I have plenty of English and Protestant blood in me.

So you have not a clue. But poor try better luck next time.

Grandpa Hassan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

And yet you still have not answered the question.

Run away sure....

Ha. I just did answer the question!

The_Kew_Tour

Grandpa Hassan wrote: »

Ha. I just did answer the question!

After 3 strikes.

Grandpa Hassan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

After 3 strikes.

You get three strikes before you're out

Lnaa

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Can people not get it into there head that the Government too Southern England priorities first before it gave a dam about Northern England and good old Scotland.

Christ they even said they give Scotland more power. Lucky them eh.

And yet you're arguing with someone who wants devolved power for Manchester, Liverpool, Yorkshire and other English regions... or does that discussion not interest you because they're English too?

The_Kew_Tour

Lnaa wrote: »

And yet you're arguing with someone who wants devolved power for Manchester, Liverpool, Yorkshire and other English regions... or does that discussion not interest you because they're English too?

English too?

How many times most this to stick in your Brain?

I'm not anti English.

Get that into your head.

And you talk about hyberbole....

PJD

Civil unrest in george square, Glasgow. Kicking off a bit....

Lnaa

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I'm not anti English.

OK, the need of major English cities and regions for devolution... lets discuss...

Lnaa

PJD wrote: »

Civil unrest in george square, Glasgow. Kicking off a bit....

Otherwise known as the Old Firm.

The_Kew_Tour

Lnaa wrote: »

OK, the need of major English cities and regions for devolution... lets discuss...

Plenty of people from Northern England wanted Scottish Yes vote.

It was not in a go **** themselves way, more a they might actually give a **** about us now in Westminster way

A Dub in Glasgo

Lnaa wrote: »

Otherwise known as the Old Firm.

You are wrong, you come on here pleading for devolution for the Northern English cities and you come out that that pish

CZ 453

Complete scumbags on the streets of Glasgow tonight.

LorMal

Lnaa wrote: »

Are you serious? That muffin has resigned? I was disappointed by the vote, but him going has cheered me up.

You are most odd. I cannot understand your opinions at all.

dundalkfc10

Lnaa wrote: »

Otherwise known as the Old Firm.

Celtic fans dont like the term Old Firm

You saying that everyone on the streets now are either Celtic or Rangers fans?

A Dub in Glasgo

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Celtic fans dont like the term Old Firm

You saying that everyone on the streets now are either Celtic or Rangers fans?

I am saying tonight's nonsense has feck all to do with Celtic

Guy:Incognito

moxin wrote: »

And vote rigging for the No side, so obvious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBZi6HqDwcQ

So obvious that the yes side came out and debunked it.

A Dub in Glasgo

shezer wrote: »

Complete scumbags on the streets of Glasgow tonight.

A bit of taxi rank banter according to some :rolleyes:

porsche959

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

English too?

How many times most this to stick in your Brain?

I'm not anti English.

Get that into your head.

And you talk about hyberbole....

I also, am not remotely anti-English. By virtue of having an English grandmother, by virtue of having plenty of relatives that live in England, and by virtue, of, well, just not being anti-English.

In fact, I'm absolutely sick and tired of seeing No supporters (some, not all) in this thread misrepresent and downright defame Yes supporters as anti-English bigots and/or Provo wannabes.

Highflyer13

Loyalist mobs on the streets of Glasgow tonight strikingly similar to the neanderthal loyalists up north in their behaviour. Not an ounce of grace in victory from some.

http://youtu.be/HZkTCwls5PE

porsche959

shezer wrote: »

Complete scumbags on the streets of Glasgow tonight.

Seems to have been targetted on one of few cities that voted Yes? Same kind of element that were behind the Lansdowne Stadium riots of 1995, by the look of things.