The preciousness of "being objectified"

Robson Lobson

On my facebook feed there are numerous women complaining how they are "objectified" by men on dating sites such as Tinder. Basically men are asking them for sex and complimenting them on their physical appearance or saying what they would love to do with them.

These men are being genuine and honest in communicating what they want and what would like to do, fair enough it might get annoying if that's not what you want, but they aren't entitled to dictate to men what they should be interested in, if they aren't interested then all they have to say is no and not act immature in response by saying they are being "objectified". Just because a man has no interest in a woman sexually does not mean she is treated as an object. No man wants to cum on a pen or tell a pen what it would like to do to it's lid.

brummytom

If they're on Tinder, they're objectifying men as well.

Robson Lobson

Robson Lobson wrote: »

On my facebook feed there are numerous women complaining how they are "objectified" by men on dating sites such as Tinder. Basically men are asking them for sex and complimenting them on their physical appearance or saying what they would love to do with them.

These men are being genuine and honest in communicating what they want and what would like to do, fair enough it might get annoying if that's not what you want, but they aren't entitled to dictate to men what they should be interested in, if they aren't interested then all they have to say is no and not act immature in response by saying they are being "objectified". Just because a man has no interest in a woman sexually does not mean she is treated as an object. No man wants to cum on a pen or tell a pen what it would like to do to it's lid.

While no one has the right not to be objectified, everyone very much has the right not to be treated like an object. You should learn the difference.

Tilly

Tinder is based on looks. If they dont want to be asked for a shag they can put that on their profile. Simples.

/it sounds like they want to boast about people wanting to fúck them by "complaining" tbh.

sopretty

Robson Lobson wrote: »

On my facebook feed there are numerous women complaining how they are "objectified" by men on dating sites such as Tinder. Basically men are asking them for sex and complimenting them on their physical appearance or saying what they would love to do with them.

These men are being genuine and honest in communicating what they want and what would like to do, fair enough it might get annoying if that's not what you want, but they aren't entitled to dictate to men what they should be interested in, if they aren't interested then all they have to say is no and not act immature in response by saying they are being "objectified". Just because a man has no interest in a woman sexually does not mean she is treated as an object. No man wants to cum on a pen or tell a pen what it would like to do to it's lid.

Ya whah?

D1stant

Robson Lobson wrote: »

On my facebook feed there are numerous women complaining how they are "objectified" by men on dating sites such as Tinder. Basically men are asking them for sex and complimenting them on their physical appearance or saying what they would love to do with them.

These men are being genuine and honest in communicating what they want and what would like to do, fair enough it might get annoying if that's not what you want, but they aren't entitled to dictate to men what they should be interested in, if they aren't interested then all they have to say is no and not act immature in response by saying they are being "objectified". Just because a man has no interest in a woman sexually does not mean she is treated as an object. No man wants to cum on a pen or tell a pen what it would like to do to it's lid.

So what are you saying - equal rights for perverts? no thanks

AnonoBoy

There's a difference between complimenting a woman and being a moronic sleaze though.

Some guys would do well to learn the difference. Who knows some woman might even lower her standards enough that they might eventually lose their virginity?

elefant

But I thought Tinder was all about personality?

Robson Lobson

Candie wrote: »

While no one has the right not to be objectified, everyone very much has the right not to be treated like an object. You should learn the difference.

Can you define being treated like an object? It's a nebulous term that can be interpreted in different ways.

MadYaker

Would you walk up to some girl in a pub and say those things to her? You'd be idiot if you did and probably get a well deserved slap. I think the women are right in this case.

The guys on that site like most dating sites are probably depraved loners and its their only contact with members of the opposite sex,

osarusan

Robson Lobson wrote: »

No man wants to cum on a pen or tell a pen what it would like to do to it's lid.

Speak for yourself.

sopretty

osarusan wrote: »

Speak for yourself.

That analogy is lost on me. I have no idea what a pen has to do with anything. I've been trying to imagine how the OP would have sex with a pen lol.

WoollyRedHat

Robson Lobson wrote: »

On my facebook feed there are numerous women complaining how they are "objectified" by men on dating sites such as Tinder. Basically men are asking them for sex and complimenting them on their physical appearance or saying what they would love to do with them.

These men are being genuine and honest in communicating what they want and what would like to do, fair enough it might get annoying if that's not what you want, but they aren't entitled to dictate to men what they should be interested in, if they aren't interested then all they have to say is no and not act immature in response by saying they are being "objectified". Just because a man has no interest in a woman sexually does not mean she is treated as an object. No man wants to cum on a pencil or tell a pencil what it would like to do to it's lid.

If you are referring to crude messages left by male users, about what they would do to them then the woman has every right to tell them to do one. People, often men leave pretty vulgar messages on these sites that they wouldn't dream of saying in public and you have to ask why is that?

You're not entitled to spout off your private fantasies to a person just because they're a complete stranger, attractive and on what people would call hook up sites.

What ever about cheap chat up lines and seeing where the conversation goes, but to say straight out what you'd do to them, not going to get you far, sleazy at best.

anncoates

Do people actually go on things like Tinder and then complain about people not wanting to know the cavernous interior of their souls.

ahnowbrowncow

MadYaker wrote: »

Would you walk up to some girl in a pub and say those things to her? You'd be idiot if you did and probably get a well deserved slap. I think the women are right in this case.

The guys on that site like most dating sites are probably depraved loners and its their only contact with members of the opposite sex,

Are you advocating assault? :eek:

wes

If your using Tinder, then is that sort of to be expected? Isn't that the whole purpose of that app?

MadYaker

Id say half the people on tinder are just trolling anyway. In fact it sounds like it might be a bit of craic.

eviltwin

Whatever happened to manners and respect?

Even if you are on a hook up site like Tinder there is no need to talk in such a disgusting manner to someone. Do people really think that kind of talk turns the opposite sex on?

Bananatop

Robson Lobson wrote: »

No man wants to cum on a pen or tell a pen what it would like to do to it's lid.

Robson Lobson wrote: »

It's a nebulous term that can be interpreted in different ways.

Quite.

The King of Moo

wes wrote: »

If your using Tinder, then is that sort of to be expected? Isn't that the whole purpose of that app?

You could expect to be approached with a bit of tact, respect and even a little charm on occasion.
You shouldn't expect to have someone telling you directly what they'd like to do to you. If you wouldn't say it in real life, why would you say it online?

What I really don't understand is how people think that that approach might actually be successful.

Steppenwolfe

Robson Lobson wrote: »

On my facebook feed there are numerous women complaining how they are "objectified" by men on dating sites such as Tinder. Basically men are asking them for sex and complimenting them on their physical appearance or saying what they would love to do with them.

These men are being genuine and honest in communicating what they want and what would like to do, fair enough it might get annoying if that's not what you want, but they aren't entitled to dictate to men what they should be interested in, if they aren't interested then all they have to say is no and not act immature in response by saying they are being "objectified". Just because a man has no interest in a woman sexually does not mean she is treated as an object. No man wants to cum on a pen or tell a pen what it would like to do to it's lid.

Don't take any notice what they say on their fb feed. Just let them rabbit on to each other. You're worse for taking them seriously.

wes

The King of Moo wrote: »

You could expect to be approached with a bit of tact, respect and even a little charm on occasion.
You shouldn't expect to have someone telling you directly what they'd like to do to you. If you wouldn't say it in real life, why would you say it online?

If its a hook up app like Tinder, then I wouldn't be surprised if people acted different on it. In general people act differently on the Internet. Its not news, and if you go to different sites/apps etc people will in some cases act worse.

Sure, its a sorry state of affairs, but I really don't see it changing anytime soon.

The King of Moo wrote: »

What I really don't understand is how people think that that approach might actually be successful.

No clue either, but I guess the distance provided by the Internet make people act stupid.

ViveLaVie

Robson Lobson wrote: »

These men are being genuine

Genuine creeps.

Robson Lobson wrote: »

Just because a man has no interest in a woman sexually does not mean she is treated as an object

Don't think you quite understand the meaning of objectification there mate.

Robson Lobson wrote: »

No man wants to cum on a pen or tell a pen what it would like to do to it's lid.

This is just bizarre :O

Duggy747

They call me The Pussy Destroyer!













*Takes breath from inhaler*

Robson Lobson

ViveLaVie wrote: »

Genuine creeps.



Don't think you quite understand the meaning of objectification there mate.



This is just bizarre :O

Pens are objects.

ALiasEX

eviltwin wrote: »

Whatever happened to manners and respect?

Even if you are on a hook up site like Tinder there is no need to talk in such a disgusting manner to someone. Do people really think that kind of talk turns the opposite sex on?

I think it turns some of the opposite sex on.

Tilly

Robson Lobson wrote: »

Pens are objects.

Bit early to be drunk or are you on a rollover from last night?

ViveLaVie

Robson Lobson wrote: »

Pens are objects.

Try reading the bit I quoted, just above where I said that

GLaDOS

The King of Moo wrote: »

You could expect to be approached with a bit of tact, respect and even a little charm on occasion.
You shouldn't expect to have someone telling you directly what they'd like to do to you. If you wouldn't say it in real life, why would you say it online?

What I really don't understand is how people think that that approach might actually be successful.

You're assuming it's a genuine attempt at getting interest/the ride. I'd say a large proportion is lads taking the piss.

cloud493

eviltwin wrote: »

Whatever happened to manners and respect?

Even if you are on a hook up site like Tinder there is no need to talk in such a disgusting manner to someone. Do people really think that kind of talk turns the opposite sex on?

This. For ****s sake have some dignity like. What do you look like, scrambling to get a woman to pay attention to you by being disgusting. Be polite, have a conversation.

Robson Lobson

ViveLaVie wrote: »

Try reading the bit I quoted, just above where I said that

I did, to tell a woman you would like to fukc her is not objectification as you would never say that to an actual object, ie a pen.

Ihatecuddles

I've been on dating sites before, and I genuinely think they are trying to flirt!

sopretty

mauzo! wrote: »

I've been on dating sites before, and I genuinely think they are trying to flirt!

God bless them! :P

Robson Lobson

cloud493 wrote: »

This. For ****s sake have some dignity like. What do you look like, scrambling to get a woman to pay attention to you by being disgusting. Be polite, have a conversation.

That's another option, game playing.

sopretty

Robson Lobson wrote: »

I did, to tell a woman you would like to fukc her is not objectification as you would never say that to an actual object, ie a pen.

You're not the brightest pen in the pencil case are you?

ViveLaVie

Robson Lobson wrote: »

I did, to tell a woman you would like to fukc her is not objectification as you would never say that to an actual object, ie a pen.

You clearly didn't, that's not what you said.

Edit: Also, that too is not objectification.

SamAK

MadYaker wrote: »

The guys on that site like most dating sites are probably depraved loners and its their only contact with members of the opposite sex,

You'd do well to join the boards online dating forum* and interact with some of the OD community on here before making a generalisation like that! Some lovely, genuine people involved there that I've really enjoyed interacting with..

And don't think that all the tail chasing and sex soliciting on dating sites is perpetrated by men alone...because you'd be quite wrong!



*Well, don't actually...unless you're genuinely involved in it yourself. Forum rules and all that.

Robson Lobson

ViveLaVie wrote: »

You clearly didn't, that's not what you said.

Edit: Also, that too is not objectification.

Define objectification.

sopretty

Robson Lobson wrote: »

Define objectification.

In basic terms, which you may or may not understand; it is to treat a human being as an object.

ViveLaVie

Robson Lobson wrote: »

Define objectification.

To degrade someone to the status of a mere object. It means you treat them as though they are of lesser value or worth than they are. It doesn't mean you crack onto pens. Lol.

Maguined

sopretty wrote: »

In basic terms, which you may or may not understand; it is to treat a human being as an object.

So porpositioning an adult to inquire their consent is treating them like an object?

I rarely send an email to my pen to ask for it's consent in using it as an object to write a letter.

sopretty

Maguined wrote: »

So porpositioning an adult to inquire their consent is treating them like an object?

I rarely send an email to my pen to ask for it's consent in using it as an object to write a letter.

Exactly. You just use it.

So complaining about something on facebook is actually dictating to men on tinder on what they should be interested in. Okay got it

ViveLaVie

Maguined wrote: »

So porpositioning an adult to inquire their consent is treating them like an object?

I rarely send an email to my pen to ask for it's consent in using it as an object to write a letter.

Nope. However, treating a woman as though her only purpose or value is sexual IS objectification. Why is this hard to understand?

strobe

I don't think I'll ever quite look at a Bic the same way again.

sopretty

strobe wrote: »

I don't think I'll ever quite look at a Bic the same way again.

I actually went so far as to try to visualise him sticking his flute into the lid to try to figure out the relevance of the pen analogy!!!

All I can say is, it involved a very small flute.

Spunge

sopretty wrote: »

In basic terms, which you may or may not understand; it is to treat a human being as an object.

A human being is an object.

sopretty

Spunge wrote: »

A human being is an object.

Lol.

iDave

Men are blunt and want easy sex. Do some of these women not realise this?

sopretty

iDave wrote: »

Men are blunt and want easy sex. Do some of these women not realise this?

Perhaps men should buy some blow up dolls?

ViveLaVie

iDave wrote: »

Men are blunt and want easy sex. Do some of these women not realise this?

Women are people, not just sexual objects. Do some of these men not realise this?