The preciousness of "being objectified"

AnonoBoy

Lou.m wrote: »

I didn't read it that closely.

It didn't really warrant it to be honest.

J_E

Lou.m wrote: »

No they don't or not all of them do.

I am not talking flirtation or anything. I am talking people with a screw loose.

That is quite different. But there is a difference between receiving a racy message on a social app and something more sinister, they should not be confused.

Any level of that kind of harassment should be taken very seriously.

bluewolf wrote: »

Apparently some guy kept harassing a woman he didn't know (I don't remember if it was facebook or a dating app or what) with dick pics so she sent them to his mother

Here's a good story on why this kind of revenge isn't always a good solution; Now, maybe it worked in that case, but I don't think it's necessarily the way to go.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/how-dongle-jokes-got-two-people-fired-and-led-to-ddos-attacks/

Cydoniac

Cydoniac wrote: »

Here's a good story on why this kind of revenge isn't always a good solution; Now, maybe it worked in that case, but I don't think it's necessarily the way to go.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/how-dongle-jokes-got-two-people-fired-and-led-to-ddos-attacks/

I don't know about the sending to his mammy one but this?
when Adria Richards, a developer evangelist for e-mail vendor SendGrid, overheard jokes being told by two developers sitting behind her during a session. The jokes were sexual in nature, she said. Richards proceeded to take a picture of the developers, then tweeted the photo

What the fcuk like. Overheard jokes that were none of her business?
Either ignore them or TALK to them like "hey guys can you keep it down please"
jesus

J_E

bluewolf wrote: »

I don't know about the sending to his mammy one but this?
when Adria Richards, a developer evangelist for e-mail vendor SendGrid, overheard jokes being told by two developers sitting behind her during a session. The jokes were sexual in nature, she said. Richards proceeded to take a picture of the developers, then tweeted the photo

What the fcuk like. Overheard jokes that were none of her business?
Either ignore them or TALK to them like "hey guys can you keep it down please"
jesus

Not to mention she then got caught making jokes on Twitter about stuffing socks in trousers. Really nasty 'women are weak' feminist-type.

Mike747

bluewolf wrote: »

I don't know about the sending to his mammy one but this?
when Adria Richards, a developer evangelist for e-mail vendor SendGrid, overheard jokes being told by two developers sitting behind her during a session. The jokes were sexual in nature, she said. Richards proceeded to take a picture of the developers, then tweeted the photo

What the fcuk like. Overheard jokes that were none of her business?
Either ignore them or TALK to them like "hey guys can you keep it down please"
jesus

Yeah would been nice if she acted like an adult instead of crying to her boss. A man loses his job because of a interfering busy body. Oh well at least she got fired too.

Wibbs

bluewolf wrote: »

What the fcuk like. Overheard jokes that were none of her business?
Either ignore them or TALK to them like "hey guys can you keep it down please"
jesus

Ah but that would be the normal sensible adult response B. God forbid. If she had reacted in a normal way she wouldn't have gotten her name "trending". This type of nutter loves the attention. However when you're dealing with a professional victim and noticebox actively looking for offence to boost her ego and profile among the gilded "oppressed" like Richards then all bets are off. She's one of those end results of a delicate ego egged on by Women studies "professors" at the crazier and privileged end of US campus politics. Or in more local parlance a thundering gobshíte.

What I didn't like in that "scandal" were a minority of equally daft mouthbreathers calling for her to be killed. Oh yes. Twats. The interweb can concentrate the crazies and no mistake. Thankfully the rest of us normal majority avert our gaze and attention and carry on as normal. Sadly these eejits can sometimes influence wider society and even policy albeit in a small way.

Stavros Murphy

I thought Tinder was a state of dryness. I think I'm gonna stick with that definition, my innocence has taken an awful hammering these last few years. Maybe i'm not that far off anyway, maybe it is a state of dryness, or at least a dry patch. Or a wet patch..

thegreatgonzo

EyeSight wrote: »

Does sending dick pics or asking for a shag ever work for lads?

I met a guy on a night out a few years ago when I lived in Dublin and gave him my number. Next day I started getting a series of obscene messages from him...or at least I think I did. I think he must have been dyslexic because it took me ages to figure out what he said he was going to do to me.
It lost a bit of impact:D

irishguitarlad

I had a friend who showed me tinder on his smart phone as I still live back in the stone age as regards technology. Anyways he flicked through a few of the girls on it and the majority of them looked about as interesting as a plank of wood. He said he was on it for sex and heard it was good for that. I guess the point I'm making is that if your a woman that goes on to tinder your inadvertedly setting yourself up to be objectified as I think in this moment that the idea my friend has is quite similar to a lot of males who are on tinder. If your serious about finding someone you would go somewhere else.

Robson Lobson

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Nah, she's not.

Why not? She did exactly the same thing, she sent a picture of a penis to someone who didn't want to see it. She harrased his mother.

Lou.m

Mike747 wrote: »

Yeah would been nice if she acted like an adult instead of crying to her boss. A man loses his job because of a interfering busy body. Oh well at least she got fired too.

Oh the irony of this post.

Zed Bank

They're on Tinder ffs, what do they expect? Stimulating intellectual debate?

Lou.m

irishguitarlad wrote: »

I had a friend who showed me tinder on his smart phone as I still live back in the stone age as regards technology. Anyways he flicked through a few of the girls on it and the majority of them looked about as interesting as a plank of wood. He said he was on it for sex and heard it was good for that. I guess the point I'm making is that if your a woman that goes on to tinder your inadvertedly setting yourself up to be objectified as I think in this moment that the idea my friend has is quite similar to a lot of males who are on tinder. If your serious about finding someone you would go somewhere else.

What would you do about men who send you dick pics on facebook? Or porn etc? Would you say objecting to that is being fussy?

Cuz it's happened to me a fair bit.

Legs.Eleven

Someone from my book club posted this on Facebook yesterday and I'd be interested to hear what you think. Personally I thought it was very clever and fairly harmless as she didn't mention full names or post photos. Not something I would personally bother my arse doing but each to their own.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/an-artist-found-an-amazing-way-to-get-back-at-creepy-men-on


I don't know anything about these apps but I've got that kind of stuff through other websites and I've ignored it. Best course of action imo as they're obviously looking for some kind of reaction. Does it bother me? Not really. In person, yes but not on the internet unless there's obvious signs of misogyny and in that case, I try and track them down and chop their willies off.

bodice ripper

Lou.m wrote: »

What would you do about men who send you dick pics on facebook? Or porn etc? Would you say objecting to that is being fussy?

Cuz it's happened to me a fair bit.

then you are a TERRIBLE judge of character when it comes to accepting friend requests.

irishguitarlad

Lou.m wrote: »

What would you do about men who send you dick pics on facebook? Or porn etc? Would you say objecting to that is being fussy?

Cuz it's happened to me a fair bit.

Ok someone sending you dick pictures is crazy and obviously I would be against that. As for the question what would I do? I wouldn't know as I'm a dude who's not on facebook:p By the way are you objecting to people sending you porn or just porn in general?

Lou.m

bodice ripper wrote: »

then you are a TERRIBLE judge of character when it comes to accepting friend requests.

I am too random online I think and in life.

But then by being a little random in life I have a lot of fun and meet nice characters too it has an upside.

I have boundaries and yeah I am better now I think.

The Backwards Man

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Someone from my book club posted this on Facebook yesterday and I'd be interested to hear what you think. Personally I thought it was very clever and fairly harmless as she didn't mention full names or post photos. Not something I would personally bother my arse doing but each to their own.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/an-artist-found-an-amazing-way-to-get-back-at-creepy-men-on


I don't know anything about these apps but I've got that kind of stuff through other websites and I've ignored it. Best course of action imo as they're obviously looking for some kind of reaction. Does it bother me? Not really. In person, yes but not on the internet unless there's obvious signs of misogyny and in that case, I try and track them down and chop their willies off.

I was reading that and I was kid of 'no way, they wouldn't all be that bad would they?' at the start, but the more I think about it, the more I know of plenty of people that would have the same sort of attitude to the opposite sex, and would see nothing wrong with saying any of those things in person. I say people because I've had a few jobs that have the 'perk' of overhearing conversations and objectifying isn't an exclusively male trait. Majority would be male though alright.

mikom

Robson Lobson wrote: »

On my facebook feed there are numerous women complaining how they are "objectified" by men on dating sites such as Tinder.

Is this the new Angry Birds..........?

Lou.m

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Ok someone sending you dick pictures is crazy and obviously I would be against that. As for the question what would I do? I wouldn't know as I'm a dude who's not on facebook:p By the way are you objecting to people sending you porn or just porn in general?

People sending me clips of porn. Yes that has happened on facebook. And it was not spam . I don't know what he was thinking.

He apparently sent other women similar material. If it was a he, the profile was a male, you never know though.

For a while last year I cleared facebook to just people I actually know in life after a really weird incident which I won't go into.

But then you get requests and people look really interesting like how can you refuse a request with cute kittens in the pic??

Robson Lobson

I don't think anyone has been able to define objectification.

ALiasEX

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Someone from my book club posted this on Facebook yesterday and I'd be interested to hear what you think. Personally I thought it was very clever and fairly harmless as she didn't mention full names or post photos. Not something I would personally bother my arse doing but each to their own.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/an-artist-found-an-amazing-way-to-get-back-at-creepy-men-on


I don't know anything about these apps but I've got that kind of stuff through other websites and I've ignored it. Best course of action imo as they're obviously looking for some kind of reaction. Does it bother me? Not really. In person, yes but not on the internet unless there's obvious signs of misogyny and in that case, I try and track them down and chop their willies off.

It's just harmful to fat men with small penises.

sopretty

Robson Lobson wrote: »

I don't think anyone has been able to define objectification.

Google it, look up your dictionary or just read back up.

A more accurate statement would be 'despite several attempts at explaining objectification to Robson, his quest to remain ignorant superseded all endeavours to educate him.'

Robson Lobson

sopretty wrote: »

Google it, look up your dictionary or just read back up.

A more accurate statement would be 'despite several attempts at explaining objectification to Robson, his quest to remain ignorant superseded all endeavours to educate him.'

Several failed attmepts. Try harder.

Legs.Eleven

ALiasEX wrote: »

It's just harmful to fat men with small penises.

How likely do you think she was of hitting the mark?

sopretty

If I said you were a beautiful woman, would you hold it against me?

sopretty

I've no problem with 'want a ride' sites. None whatsoever. But if a girl signs up to what she perceives to be a dating site, looking to meet a guy for dating, romance, and (assuming all goes well) a bit of hanky panky, then I am not surprised that women/girls would get pissed off with some gobdaw looking at their photo and messaging them about how he has wanked all over their photo and will **** all over her when they meet (contraception like). Neanderthals will be Neanderthals.

Mike747

Lou.m wrote: »

Oh the irony of this post.

Ironic how?

ALiasEX

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

How likely do you think she was of hitting the mark?

Not sure what you mean.

The Highwayman

MadYaker wrote: »

Would you walk up to some girl in a pub and say those things to her? You'd be idiot if you did and probably get a well deserved slap. I think the women are right in this case.

The guys on that site like most dating sites are probably depraved loners and its their only contact with members of the opposite sex,

By your rational then the women on said sites would be the same depraved loners as well or you have you some facts to back up your sweeping statement to prove otherwise? No I thought not :rolleyes:

If anyone opens an account on any site and adds a pic then they are open to this sort of attention, surely there is a block function?

They are grown ups and know what the internet is like. Boo Hoo them.

I cant help but think of some ladies I know who get upset about men looking at their boobs even when they have them out with a sheer dress, the only reason they are upset is because they do not find these guys attractive. They have no problem with they are attracted to a guy who does the same.

Ficheall

sopretty wrote: »

If I said you were a beautiful woman, would you hold it against me?

(sic.)
I feel you may have missed the humour in the original pick-up line...

sopretty

Ficheall wrote: »

(sic.)
I feel you may have missed the humour in the original pick-up line...

Eh............ I feel you may have underestimated my sense of humour.

beks101

The Highwayman wrote: »

If anyone opens an account on any site and adds a pic then they are open to this sort of attention, surely there is a block function?

What about personal responsibility? Good old-fashioned manners and respect? Opening with a 'hi' as though you're actually addressing a real live human being and establishing a bit of rapport before perhaps testing the waters, rather than an abrupt "nice t1ts" and "I want to bend you over and fcuk you senseless"?

Too much to ask?

The Highwayman

beks101 wrote: »

What about personal responsibility? Good old-fashioned manners and respect? Opening with a 'hi' as though you're actually addressing a real live human being and establishing a bit of rapport before perhaps testing the waters, rather than an abrupt "nice t1ts" and "I want to bend you over and fcuk you senseless"?

Too much to ask?

dunno how many dates you would get on a dating site with that opening gambit however ask enough times them I'm sure it will work now and again.

Cutting to the chase?
It would not be my first question but it's the internet it could be a 13 school boy