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Revenue to share data for TV License?????

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  • #52
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Christ amighty the government really has it in for us, after all our hard work voting them into power

    Ungrateful cnuts.


  • #53
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Banjo String wrote: »
    If you can find a post of mine where I disputed that or suggested otherwise get back to me.
    The post I quoted is evidence enough.


  • #54
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Christ amighty the government really has it in for us, after all our hard work voting them into power

    Ungrateful cnuts.


  • #55
    gillmelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭gillmelly


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Christ amighty the government really has it in for us, after all our hard work voting them into power

    Ungrateful cnuts.

    you get what you vote for, and at the minute, they're all the same


  • #56
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    gillmelly wrote: »
    you get what you vote for, and at the minute, they're all the same

    Not all the same. Plenty of them are against property tax and water charges and have promised to abolish both if they get into government. So on these issues you have a very clear choice.


  • #57
    gillmelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭gillmelly


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Not all the same. Plenty of them are against property tax and water charges and have promised to abolish both if they get into government. So on these issues you have a very clear choice.

    lol . . . the old ones are the best . . . heard it all before, year in, year out.


  • #58
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    The post I quoted is evidence enough.

    No. It's not.

    In the name of fairness, it was claimed by another poster rather sarcastically, OMG, a tax on an asset, the injustice.

    I replied enquiring that (as an example) a farmer with hundreds of thousands of euro worth of fields (undoubtedly an asset) wouldn't be taxed on his "asset of land".

    Now, keep up I'll try keep this as simple as possible.

    The only reason I brought a farmer with Land into the equation is, we're debating the merits of a property tax.

    Farmers might very well be heard telling you to "get off my property" when you stray on their land, so it's quite relevant to the debate.

    They aren't really being taxed on their property if it's only a small portion of it.

    I hope I've broken it down enough for you.


  • #59
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    gillmelly wrote: »
    you get what you vote for, and at the minute, they're all the same
    Naive people actually still believe that if Fine Gael weren't in power that we wouldn't have to pay property taxes or water charges.


  • #60
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Not all the same. Plenty of them are against property tax and water charges and have promised to abolish both if they get into government. So on these issues you have a very clear choice.

    FinneGwale were against property tax literaly until they got into power. All the parties are sunshine and lolipops until they get in and then they're all like "Haha! Lets show these dumfcuk voters who's boss!"


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  • #61
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    FinneGwale were against property tax literaly until they got into power. All the parties are sunshine and lolipops until they get in and then they're all like "Haha! Lets show these dumfcuk voters who's boss!"

    Sinn Fein brought two bills to the Oireachtas proposing to abolish the Household Charge and then then the LPT. Do you not believe they are serious?


  • #62
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Banjo String wrote: »
    No. It's not.

    In the name of fairness, it was claimed by another poster rather sarcastically, OMG, a tax on an asset, the injustice.

    I replied enquiring that (as an example) a farmer with hundreds of thousands of euro worth of fields (undoubtedly an asset) wouldn't be taxed on his "asset of land".

    Now, keep up I'll try keep this as simple as possible.

    The only reason I brought a farmer with Land into the equation is, we're debating the merits of a property tax.

    Farmers might very well be heard telling you to "get off my property" when you stray on their land, so it's quite relevant to the debate.

    I hope I've broken it down enough for you.
    Property tax is only on houses so why are you raving on about farmland? They more than likely will tax it eventually but it irrelevant now.


  • #63
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Property tax is only on houses so why are you raving on about farmland? They more than likely will tax it eventually but it irrelevant now.

    Then the term "property" tax is inaccurate or wrong.

    Take your pick.


    Family home tax is quite apt however. (something Enda Kenny loudly proclaimed was morally wrong, unjust and unfair )


  • #64
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Alias G wrote: »
    A house is capable of increasing (or decreasing) in value. Ergo, it is an asset.


    I am willing to be you do not own a house right ;)
    hence why you have no problem with the household charge. But if, in 10 years, you bought a house... you'd have an issue with the charge then.


  • #65
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Property tax is only on houses so why are you raving on about farmland? They more than likely will tax it eventually but it irrelevant now.

    Farmland can't be taxed. It is against the Constitution. Decided by the High Court in 1982 and upheld by the Supreme Court in 1984. This followed on from the Government decision in 1977 to abolish Domestic Rates (property tax) on private dwellings but to continue Rates on agricultural land. Domestic Rates on private dwellings was never tested in the courts. But the President saw fit to sign the legislation introducing the Property Charge and then the LPT without any need to refer them to the Supreme Court.


  • #66
    dub50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭dub50


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein brought two bills to the Oireachtas proposing to abolish the Household Charge and then then the LPT. Do you not believe they are serious?

    Sinn Fein are in power in Northern Ireland so why are they not abolishing council tax up there, it's only difference to the property tax here is that it is a lot higher


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  • #67
    fleet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭fleet


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein brought two bills to the Oireachtas proposing to abolish the Household Charge and then then the LPT. Do you not believe they are serious?


    Nope. No for a second. They have the luxury of knowing they won't be elected and so could promise "the moon on a stick" and never have to deliver it.


  • #68
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    dub50 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein are in power in Northern Ireland so why are they not abolishing council tax up there, it's only difference to the property tax here is that it is a lot higher

    I know that. Anyway in every constituency in the next election there will be at least one candidate (probably several) who will be standing as anti property tax and/or anti water charges. So nobody can complain if the outcome of the election returns a government which retains them. The choice is there and that is how democracy works.


  • #69
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    dub50 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein are in power in Northern Ireland so why are they not abolishing council tax up there, it's only difference to the property tax here is that it is a lot higher

    And comes with a vast array of services.

    Also, SF successfully blocked the tory Govt implementing water charges in the north.

    But the FG stooges on this site don't ever seem to acknowledge this fact.


  • #70
    Alias G
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Alias G


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    I am willing to be you do not own a house right ;)
    hence why you have no problem with the household charge. But if, in 10 years, you bought a house... you'd have an issue with the charge then.

    Then I hope your not an regular gambler. I stated in this very thread that I have a mortgage.


  • #71
    Alias G
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Alias G


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein brought two bills to the Oireachtas proposing to abolish the Household Charge and then then the LPT. Do you not believe they are serious?

    Sinn Fein will spout whatever it takes in order to get votes. In reality, if they ever do get into power, they will be in coalition and almost certainly won't get their way on the LPT.


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  • #72
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Banjo String wrote: »
    And comes with a vast array of services.

    Also, SF successfully blocked the tory Govt implementing water charges in the north.

    But the FG stooges on this site don't ever seem to acknowledge this fact.

    Don't forget to give their DUP friends some of the credit.


  • #73
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    sgthighway wrote: »
    Got a letter off the Revenue asking me to join their club for €200. I already have loads of different subscriptions to them. They got my name of the Local Government Management Agency. I rang them up and they said I cannot appeal the arrears. First letter I ever get about it is this one. Even though I don't want to join they are going to take it from my wages. I'm not going to dwell on it because it looks like they can take it from source anyways. Would I be correct in saying there has never been a Court Case for this? Successful or Unsuccessful. I think anyone that went to court the judge just deferred it.

    I just wonder will they pass the list onto An Post next for the TV License. Shower of ?#@*%$! :(

    Do you have a TV?


  • #74
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Don't forget to give their DUP friends some of the credit.

    You're a gas man.

    You were on here not so long ago claiming SF were liable and to blame for the state of the health service which is overseen by a DUP Minister, Edwin Poots.

    I can totally see you don't have an agenda dx. :pac:


  • #75
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Banjo String wrote: »
    You're a gas man.

    You were on here not so long ago claiming SF were liable and to blame for the state of the health service which is overseen by a DUP Minister, Edwin Poots.

    I can totally see you don't have an agenda dx. :pac:

    Where did you get the idea that SF blocked water charges coming into the North. There were no water charges under the previous UUP/SDLP administration.


  • #76
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Sinn Fein brought two bills to the Oireachtas proposing to abolish the Household Charge and then then the LPT. Do you not believe they are serious?

    Sure they're serious now but if they get in they'll change completely. They'll be making the tough decisions to keep the german pension funds safe


  • #77
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    cerastes wrote: »
    I dont consider mine or anyone elses home an asset, even Enda thinks its unjust!
    and what if someone has no means to pay or none left after they have paid all their other payments, at least ones that have some recognisable service attached? they can put that off and are charged so that the less well off will end up paying a disproportionate amount, so the less you can afford it, the worse off you are.

    I wouldn't even be so opposed if it could be determined where it was going, certain services need to be paid for, like say a breakdown such as I was informed occurs somewhere like Finland, who apparently pay through the nose, but know what services and value they are getting, or even in the UK, at least they know what they are being ripped off for, instead we are lied to and kept in the dark, which doesnt foster support.

    County councils publish their budgets every year if you bothered to look


  • #78
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Where did you get the idea that SF blocked water charges coming into the North. There were no water charges under the previous UUP/SDLP administration .

    I know this, they were about to be introduced though.

    Sinn Fein opposed them, and successfully stopped them being introduced. I'm googling for you Dxhound. You're a big boy.


  • #79
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Banjo String wrote: »
    I know this, they were about to be introduced though.

    Sinn Fein opposed them, and successfully stopped them being introduced. I'm googling for you Dxhound. You're a big boy.

    Did they threaten to end the "peace process"?


  • #80
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Did they threaten to end the "peace process"?

    Another straw man argument. There are many examples of you attempting to take a thread off topic when your spurious arguments have been picked apart.

    What has the peace process got to do with water charges/property tax or domestic rates?

    (this'll be interesting)


  • #81
    cerastes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    County councils publish their budgets every year if you bothered to look

    I meant as an itemised statement to the person paying the taxes, as I was informed by someone from Finland, not to trawl through the budgets, I'll have a look all the same as I wasnt aware of that, but if it includes the entire budget, I hardly see how that narrows down the costs of services provided to an individual, but I'll look all the same thanks.


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