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Arcade candy cab advice
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I think when it comes to a big purchase like this, its important to deal in facts and not feelings.
The egrets/atomiswaves/astros etc are not huge cabinets. To put it into perspective, heres some dimensions;
Capcom Cute
690 x 500 x 1300 mm
Egret/Atomiswave
903 x 750 x 1450 mm
Difference (in cm !)
21.3cm x 25cm x 15cm
See its such a small difference ? But that difference gives you comfort for when you play on it. I'd also suggest you would need that difference in space regardless of what cabinet you plan to buy, as thats pretty much the sort of dimensions 2 people playing side by side would take up, or one really big dude :pac:
Its also important to know the real price of a cabinet, and I see prices being posted sometimes and I really can't believe them.
So more facts
Ronnie has a Astro City for sale @ €575. Last time I had a cabinet delivered from him it was €250; so thats €825 + you will want to use a stepdown convertor for the voltage. So you'd pick up a decent one for €50. Finally you'll end up wanting to change buttons and sticks for fresh ones, so you'll probably drop a few €€€ on that. All in I'd bet you'd spend €1K
My final word on this is a warning :eek: Beware the arrival of an Arcade Cabinet in the home, as be sure the desire for a 2nd will soon follow
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Just to play devil's advocate (!) it's good to compare numbers but sometimes they be deceiving. So best to look at some picture comparisons too.
Here's a 29 inch Atomiswave beside a SNK candy 18. In numbers it might not look too much different but you can see in practicality it's vastly smaller.
And here's a 29 inch Astro City beside a 25 in SNK Neo Geo.
All depends on the OPs space really. A cute is definitely not optimum when it comes to space versus screen size.
Couple that with the lack of comfort and the insane price and I reckon they're probably best avoided as a main cabinet.
Definitely do try and go as big as you can. If you've the room for an atomiswave/Astro then get one
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Master of the UniverseJoin Date:Posts: 34769
It depends what you've to deal with though
There's physical size and there's the perception of size.
If you're just dealing with squeezing a cab into a space then the size itself is all that matters.
If you've a wife who's going to say 'jesus, that thing's huge! get it out of my house!' or you want it to have a smaller visual impact in a room then perception of size comes into it. (which is what a photo representation will show you)
They're most definitely a big investment alright, mine still bring a smile to my face on a daily basis whenever I see them 0 -
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Just to play devil's advocate (!)
No problem - I'll play Phoenix Wright
When I look at those pictures above in your post. My perception/perspective makes me think of wrist cramp (oh matron:o) and sore knees (oh no you didn't
:o)
I can't see how you could have a comfortable 2 player game of Street Fighter on them and lets be honest here, the purpose of a Jamma Cabinet is for it to function for lots of differing types & styles of games and if its your first cabinet, you'll certainly want to try out everything on it.
I always think the bigger the screen the more enjoyable the experience is. Hell I want to see my scanlines while I still have eyesight and I think the smaller the monitor the less chance you have of that.0 -
It depends what you've to deal with though
There's physical size and there's the perception of size.
If you're just dealing with squeezing a cab into a space then the size itself is all that matters.
If you've a wife who's going to say 'jesus, that thing's huge! get it out of my house!' or you want it to have a smaller visual impact in a room then perception of size comes into it. (which is what a photo representation will show you)
They're most definitely a big investment alright, mine still bring a smile to my face on a daily basis whenever I see them
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Master of the UniverseJoin Date:Posts: 34769
18 in monitor cabs must be extremely cramped for 2 player games alright. But 25s are actually okay.
If you look at AWSDs and Astro CPs, a lot of it is actually taken up with move strip space.
Wrist space is pretty much the distance from the edge of the bottom buttons to the edge of the CP.
If you look at the Astro beside the SNK cab in the above photos, the SNK cab actually had a tiny bit more wrist space believe it or not! (Although it does have a couple less buttons)
Lateral space really is the big selling point of 29 inch cabs. They're so roomy!
25 is a bit smaller, but it's not cramped and is still fairly comfortable. I played a good solid 3 hours of 2 player Samurai Showdown and The Last Blade with a mate last weekend and there was zero awkward touching
Only thing I had a cramp from was those Japanese stools! I love them but they really have me considering getting something with a back on them.0 -
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The monitor is currently vertical. 'Tate' is short for 'rotate' - as in move it to a horizontal position.
not quite
Tate: Viewing mode available in some vertscrollers which displays the playing field at full size, rotated 90 degrees to the right. Designed to be used on certain monitors which can be turned on their sides, so as to display the game on a vertically-oriented manner similar to an arcade monitor. The preferred screen format of most shmup players, but it cannot be used on most televisions, since turning standard sets on their sides can break them. Can be used as a verb, as in “I tated my monitor to play this game.” Also presented as “Arcade Mode” or “Full-Screen Mode.”
”Tate” is a shortened form of the Japanese verb “tateru,” which means “to stand.” Pronounced “tah-teh,” though the common mispronunciation of “tayte” has gained semi-acceptance. Also commonly spelled with all capital letters (“TATE”), though it is not an acronym.
Yoko: (also Widescreen) Refers to the default viewing mode of certain vertscrollers, which are intended to be displayed on a horizontal screen, and whose playfield, as a result, is fully viewable without the use of TATE mode. Sometimes also called “4:3” shmups, since a horizontal screen’s area is based on a ratio of 4 (width) to 3 (height), as opposed to the “3:4” ratio of vertical screens.
The word “yoko” comes from a Japanese adjective which means “horizontal.”0 -
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not quite
Tate: Viewing mode available in some vertscrollers which displays the playing field at full size, rotated 90 degrees to the right. Designed to be used on certain monitors which can be turned on their sides, so as to display the game on a vertically-oriented manner similar to an arcade monitor. The preferred screen format of most shmup players, but it cannot be used on most televisions, since turning standard sets on their sides can break them. Can be used as a verb, as in “I tated my monitor to play this game.” Also presented as “Arcade Mode” or “Full-Screen Mode.”
”Tate” is a shortened form of the Japanese verb “tateru,” which means “to stand.” Pronounced “tah-teh,” though the common mispronunciation of “tayte” has gained semi-acceptance. Also commonly spelled with all capital letters (“TATE”), though it is not an acronym.
Yoko: (also Widescreen) Refers to the default viewing mode of certain vertscrollers, which are intended to be displayed on a horizontal screen, and whose playfield, as a result, is fully viewable without the use of TATE mode. Sometimes also called “4:3” shmups, since a horizontal screen’s area is based on a ratio of 4 (width) to 3 (height), as opposed to the “3:4” ratio of vertical screens.
The word “yoko” comes from a Japanese adjective which means “horizontal.”
Indeed, but I meant in the context of Urbanlege's post, in which he used 'tate' as an abbreviation of the english word 'rotate' 0 -
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Indeed, but I meant in the context of Urbanlege's post, in which he used 'tate' as an abbreviation of the english word 'rotate'
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Jack burton wrote: »Can't the convergance be sorted out with a Stanley blade and some insulation tape?
Interestingly I'm planning on trying the very same thing tonight my cab has I've a nasty curl in the bottom left of my monitor too.
Will give an update if successful!
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They're dedicated mini cabs for the game Mushi King.
Some people have converted them to jamma for a tiny cab. They used to be a really cheap way of getting a mini cab but have been creeping up in value the last while.
Here's by far the nicest one out there, converted to a dedicated Ghoul's n Ghosts cab.
(actually this is a Dinoking and not a Mushi king, different game. Same cab though)
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After
Thread about it here
http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24770&sid=4f694f13df8966efd54de5d4c79ad9720 -
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