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The Dublin West 2014 By-Election Thread

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    #152
    oblivious
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    Grudaire wrote: »
    Did he finish his story and actually say what he would do if he was elected? :pac: :D

    Possably finish his story and knock on more doors :P


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    #153
    Morag
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    oh dear.

    https://twitter.com/williamhboney1/statuses/468451252075257858
    Lorraine Higgins showing Labours respect for people with a disability

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    #154
    athtrasna
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    She's running in the European elections in Midlands North West?


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    #155
    athtrasna
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    Just had a Sean Lyons car drive into our estate with a loud speaker blasting vote for him crap. It's almost 8pm on a school night and there are a lot of young kids in the estate, I'm not impressed!


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    #156
    Larbre34
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    athtrasna wrote: »
    Just had a Sean Lyons car drive into our estate with a loud speaker blasting vote for him crap. It's almost 8pm on a school night and there are a lot of young kids in the estate, I'm not impressed!


    You could call it anti-social media.

    Amazed people still do that, makes me think of Back to the Future when Marty arrives back in 1955 for the first time and the mayor is touring around the town square touting for votes with a loud hailer on his car


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    #157
    jack presley
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    Fancy, top quality colour leaflet just came through the letterbox from Fingal Co. Co. telling me where to vote on Friday.

    I wonder how much these cost to print and distribute?


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    #158
    jack presley
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    This is an honest question and I'm not truing to have a dig at David McGuinness but I got a leaflet through the door from him earlier in the week where his point was that as he has formally raised 96 issues to Fingal CC over the past 14 months as opposed to Ruth Coppinger's 12, he has delivered more for Dublin West?

    So does asking a question or raising an issue actually mean you are delivering? Out of the 96/12 issues raised by the 2 of them, how many were actually acted on or resolved to their satisfaction?


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    #159
    Grudaire
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    jack presley wrote: »
    So does asking a question or raising an issue actually mean you are delivering? Out of the 96/12 issues raised by the 2 of them, how many were actually acted on or resolved to their satisfaction?

    It's also quality vs quantity...

    Generally issues raised are no more than notifying the council of a broken streetlight!


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    #160
    jack presley
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    Grudaire wrote: »
    It's also quality vs quantity...

    Generally issues raised are no more than notifying the council of a broken streetlight!

    That's what I was thinking. Is it too late for him to tell us how successful he was with the issues he raised then and the seriousness of them?


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    #161
    ThisRegard
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    Apparently there's not a whole lot a councillor can actually do,

    From http://bocktherobber.com/2014/03/local-elections-2014-what-powers-do-local-councillors-have/ and broadsheet.ie
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    #162
    Grudaire
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    jack presley wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking. Is it too late for him to tell us how successful he was with the issues he raised then and the seriousness of them?

    You can always try get in contact with him..

    It's a meaningless statistic really. Especially when it comes to showing how good either candidate might be in the Dáil.



    It looks like it's Coppingers for the taking now though. My first preference is Roderic, but I'm very torn on second preference.. I don't particularly want any of the 6 favourites, especially after that joke of a debate.


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    #163
    Kiwi_knock
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    It is not really a persuasive argument. The work he has done is more important than the issues he has raised. Would be more useful to highlight his voting record on issues.


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    #164
    Zaph
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    Grudaire wrote: »
    It looks like it's Coppingers for the taking now though.

    Has there been an opinion poll published? I haven't seen anything at all so I'm really in the dark as to who's likely to get elected.


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    #165
    Grudaire
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    Zaph wrote: »
    Has there been an opinion poll published? I haven't seen anything at all so I'm really in the dark as to who's likely to get elected.

    Guesswork.

    I just can't see disillusioned labour voters heading to Sinn Féin over the socialists (in our constituency!)


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    #166
    Zaph
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    Fair point. Actually it's pretty poor that there hasn't been any sort of opinion poll. Paddy Power are probably still the nearest thing we have to one.


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    #167
    Kiwi_knock
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    Coppinger has to be the firm favourite. Nulty's vote was a left wing vote not a government vote so it should be going towards her. Dublin West has never been a SF area, so unless Donnelly can buck the trend, Coppinger will get the left wing vote.

    Probably the most interesting thing is where will David Hall get his votes from, he will do well enough in the middle class areas but I am unsure if he can get votes in the working class areas.


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    #168
    ThisRegard
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    Joan Burton popped around today, of course I was out but they've been the only canvasser's to drop in while either of us have been in.


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    #169
    daymobrew
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Fancy, top quality colour leaflet just came through the letterbox from Fingal Co. Co. telling me where to vote on Friday.

    I wonder how much these cost to print and distribute?
    Why on earth did they bother - the plain old black and white polling card has the necessary info.


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    #170
    Zaph
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Joan Burton popped around today, of course I was out but they've been the only canvasser's to drop in while either of us have been in.

    David Hall called to the door last week. It's the first time a candidate has ever called to the door in all the time I've lived in D15. Complete spoofer, but he talks a good game which will get him votes in certain areas.


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    #171
    daymobrew
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    Eithne Loftus was in Riverwood, Carpenterstown this afternoon. I got a little flyer in the letter box but no knock on the door.

    Ironically the flyer expressed her disappointment at not being able to meet as many people as she wanted. Eh, didn't even try!! :rolleyes:


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    #172
    athtrasna
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    daymobrew wrote: »
    Eithne Loftus was in Riverwood, Carpenterstown this afternoon. I got a little flyer in the letter box but no knock on the door.

    Ironically the flyer expressed her disappointment at not being able to meet as many people as she wanted. Eh, didn't even try!! :rolleyes:

    She's running in the locals not the Bye-Election ;)


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    #173
    sock puppet
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    I hope everyone picked up their free fruit from Eamonn Coughlan today.


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    #174
    Sierra Oscar
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    RTÉ are doing an exit poll for this. Official result in the morning, but I wonder if we could hear more late tonight?


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    #175
    Grudaire
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    sock puppet wrote: »
    I hope everyone picked up their free fruit from Eamonn Coughlan today.

    Desperation tactics using delicious and healthy bribery!? :pac:


    It'll be interesting to see the exit poll, but this bye-election will be won on transfers, so I'm not sure how relevant it will be?


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    #176
    jonnybravo
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    Grudaire wrote: »
    Desperation tactics using delicious and healthy bribery!? :pac:


    It'll be interesting to see the exit poll, but this bye-election will be won on transfers, so I'm not sure how relevant it will be?

    Be interesting all right. Going by the odds in the bookies Ruth Coppinger is nailed on to get it. I presume they have access to polls for their odds.


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    #177
    Grudaire
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    jonnybravo wrote: »
    Be interesting all right. Going by the odds in the bookies Ruth Coppinger is nailed on to get it. I presume they have access to polls for their odds.

    Generally it's just based on where the money is going..


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    #178
    Arciphel
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    Good to see one candidate posting pictures of completed ballot papers on Facebook... How brainless can you get?


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    #179
    athtrasna
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    Arciphel wrote: »
    Good to see one candidate posting pictures of completed ballot papers on Facebook... How brainless can you get?

    Fine of €1,270 or 6 months in prison worth of brainless ;)


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    #180
    January
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    He's sharing photos if it's the same candidate I'm seeing.. I didn't think it was an offence!


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    #181
    Toto Wolfcastle
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    Which candidate is that?


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