BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

9bred4

colm_mcm wrote: »

Grande Punto
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/fiat-punto/8100219

Can you smell that? It's the new guy...

Why is this car only two grand.

(note how I specified that I am new to save myself from a barrage of noob comments)

colm_mcm

9bred4 wrote: »

Can you smell that? It's the new guy...

Why is this car only two grand.

(note how I specified that I am new to save myself from a barrage of noob comments)

Its an 8 year old Fiat.

colm_mcm

CJhaughey wrote: »

Nice looking Honda, shame about the colour but at this price range its pretty much run what you get.

Colour would be a plus for some.

9bred4

colm_mcm wrote: »

Its an 8 year old Fiat.

And.....

colm_mcm

9bred4 wrote: »

And.....

They're never worth big money

Grande punto is a nice car to be fair. At the time (05ish) it was probably the most grown up car in that sector.

toyotaavensis

DAZP93 wrote: »

Well chaps,

I'm once again on the look out for Banger.

All of a sudden I've come over all Saaaabish..

Opinions please??

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-1-9tid-linear-150bhp/8123374

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-turbo-with-leather-nct-1500-no-offers/6206150

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab/7632270

The first one is with a dealer who does not have the best reputation.

unkel wrote: »

I wouldn't touch the first 2, big risks there. The last one is good value though. Check the VIN and a Saab forum to see if it has the updated breather kit. If not check service history and / or drop the sump and / or take a gamble

For sale 30 days though, perhaps he only recently dropped the price to a realistic level and had no interest before?

I saw that car on donedeal a few weeks back - had no NCT but the same price. I think it is the NCT which now makes it a tempter.

DAZP93 wrote: »

Cheers unkel..

I think for €1000 I'll take the chance :cool:

Are there any tell tale signs to keep an eye on for a dodgy one?

Have a look for the updated breather kit. Also if you remove the oil and get a coat hanger you can have a scrape at the sump to find sludge. If the garage are honest and know about this issue they might let you/ a mechanic do this.

johndaman66

colm_mcm wrote: »

Colour would be a plus for some.

Colour wouldn't appeal to me too much. Would just remind me too much of the Megane Mk 1 Coupe of the original new Beetle that launched in around 99. Different strokes for different folks though and the color alone wouldn't stop me driving it.

The motor tax on it makes it a really cheap car for what it is in fairness..

colm_mcm

Do you not remember the Jordan Civic?

JohnBoy26

CJhaughey wrote: »

Nice looking Honda, shame about the colour but at this price range its pretty much run what you get.

Usually Im not a fan of yellow but I think it really suits these

KillerShamrock

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagon-beetle-nct-serviced/7079609?sv=1

hmm my OH would love this, does it qualify for this thread?

toyotaavensis

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-vector-estate-new-nct/8101610

I dont know why but i got a good feeling about this.

CJhaughey

Winters coming and what better vehicle to tackle bad conditions than a Turbo Forester?
NCT and a small bit of tax
Few scuffs by the looks of it but nothing that would stop me driving it.


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-forester/8040988

CharlieCroker

toyotaavensis wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-vector-estate-new-nct/8101610

I dont know why but i got a good feeling about this.

It's amazing the difference a well written and informative ad can make.

That should be a great purchase. Is that the sludge engine? I still wouldn't be too worried if there's been oil changes as regularly as he says

toyotaavensis

It is indeed but i suspect it has the upgraded crank case breather system which solves the problem.

CianRyan

From what I've seen, I'm never buying a Swedish car.

Into The Blue

toyotaavensis wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-vector-estate-new-nct/8101610

I dont know why but i got a good feeling about this.

Was expecting to see edd China as the seller!!

unkel

CharlieCroker wrote: »

That should be a great purchase. Is that the sludge engine? I still wouldn't be too worried if there's been oil changes as regularly as he says

If it had 5k oil + filter changes with fully synth oil all its life, it will never develop the sludge issue. Looks like a cracker of a bangernomics car.

You going to have a look at it, toyotaavensis?

toyotaavensis

unkel wrote: »

If it had 5k oil + filter changes with fully synth oil all its life, it will never develop the sludge issue. Looks like a cracker of a bangernomics car.

You going to have a look at it, toyotaavensis?

I am tempted but would prefer an aero. Not sure.

unkel

toyotaavensis wrote: »

I am tempted but would prefer an aero. Not sure.

Aero has more poke but it's till a FWD Vectra :pac:

Saabs aren't built for the twisties. Have you driven a 9-5? Plenty of good things about them though and superb value for money as bangernomics!

DAZP93

The silver 2004 Saab 9-5 I posted last night for €1250 is sold unfortunately.

Onwards and upwards - Keep your eyes peeled.

Dont fancy traveling to far this time, anywere in the general Munster area is about as far as I'm willing to go.

93Cab

The interior of a Saab 9-5 is streets ahead of most cars! My 9-5 estate, soon to depart, has one of the best quality leather interiors I've seen. 14 years old and very little wear! A friend has an 07 c-class and the leather,or whatever it is,is in bits!

unkel

Yes the interior is very well put together. Well wearing and on a par with premium cars like BMW, Audi etc. And you haven't even mentioned the cupholder yet, 93cab

Bawnmore

colm_mcm wrote: »

What has a 1.9 XUD engine
4wd
7 seats
06
And is in bangernomics territory?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/06-tata-safari-4x4-ncted-taxed/8116334


Ssangyong drivers will laugh at you though.

Has anyone had the pleasure of driving one of these? Are they as bad as their value would let on? There's an '08 up for 2k there as well.

93Cab

unkel wrote: »

Yes the interior is very well put together. Well wearing and on a par with premium cars like BMW, Audi etc. And you haven't even mentioned the cupholder yet, 93cab

You've just reminded me I've a spare walnut dash c/w cupholder in the shed! Another thing to clear out!

zurbfoundation

Bawnmore wrote: »

Has anyone had the pleasure of driving one of these? Are they as bad as their value would let on? There's an '08 up for 2k there as well.

thats a new one on me, Tata for that!

toyotaavensis

unkel wrote: »

Aero has more poke but it's till a FWD Vectra :pac:

Saabs aren't built for the twisties. Have you driven a 9-5? Plenty of good things about them though and superb value for money as bangernomics!

You know that the 9-5 never had a GM engine until the 2009 model. It always had the old saab engine so it is not a vectra. It is built on the same platform but saab seriously modified this and got 5* in the NCAP tests when opel only got 3* with the same platform.

And yes I have driven a good few 9-5's.

unkel

The turbo petrol engine (2l / 2.3l) is technically not even a Saab engine

The 9-5 drives like a Vectra though, denial is futile

toyotaavensis

Triumph designed it about 50 years ago. SAAB redesigned it a few times. IMO that makes it a saab engine.

JohnBoy26

toyotaavensis wrote: »

You know that the 9-5 never had a GM engine until the 2009 model. It always had the old saab engine so it is not a vectra. It is built on the same platform but saab seriously modified this and got 5* in the NCAP tests when opel only got 3* with the same platform.

And yes I have driven a good few 9-5's.

Whatever way you like to dress it, it's still got those GM underpinnings, it's still on a lengthened version of the vectra platform. Kudos to Saab for achieving a 5 star euro ncap with this platform but no amount of modifications in the world could shake off the 9-5's vectra like handling

unkel

And the safest car NCAP had ever tested at the time! Indeed not bad for a car on the same platform as the 1987 Vectra A

ba_barabus

Bawnmore wrote: »

Has anyone had the pleasure of driving one of these? Are they as bad as their value would let on? There's an '08 up for 2k there as well.

Yes. They're AWFUL. I can't emphasis that enough.

Also you should note the 06 one has the updated front while the 08 has the old front. I'd imagine this has more to do with it sitting around unregistered/unsold.

colm_mcm

ba_barabus wrote: »

Yes. They're AWFUL. I can't emphasis that enough.

Also you should note the 06 one has the updated front while the 08 has the old front. I'd imagine this has more to do with it sitting around unregistered/unsold.

There were a a hape of ones sitting around that got converted to commercial.

jcon1913

unkel wrote: »

Aero has more poke but it's till a FWD Vectra :pac:

Saabs aren't built for the twisties. Have you driven a 9-5? Plenty of good things about them though and superb value for money as bangernomics!

When saab were taken over by General Motors they told to use GM parts but twerps that Saab were they only used about a third of what They could. They had the worst of both worlds because the customer thought " its an opel underneath" but they got none of the cost savings because they developed 2/3rds of the parts themselves. Source - Top Gear Saab tribute show from about 2 years ago. Okay i admit it im a saab anorak.

Mind you i can see im in good company with you lot

andym16

Just wondering would any of these be suitable for a first car. Would prefer a focus as you can see but am open to other suggestions. I can't paste links unfortunately.

www.cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus/8114788

www.cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-new-nct/7641230

www.cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/02-ford-focus-taxed-tested/7814208

toyotaavensis

car 1 only got pics of one side of the car which could be laziness or damage on the other side
It doesnt have the original radio so the contrls on the steering wheel wont work and isnt the highest spec. No aircon but if you got it for 1100 and it was in good nick not bad at all.

car 2 nct is a bit short here. I would be looking for about 9 months on the car given the new rules about when you can test a car

car 3 short test galactic milage and a nasty dent.

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

There were a a hape of ones sitting around that got converted to commercial.

And even then they couldn't be sold. I remember a load appearing as commercials and pre-regged around 2008. I think they were shoved into no reserve auctions in the end to try and shift some of them.

I know a few garages local to me refused to repair Tata Loadbeta's back in the day as they simply couldn't keep the sh!t heaps repaired. Parts were a pain to get and they ended up taking up space for weeks on end. Mechanics got sick of customers taking it out on them.

andym16

toyotaavensis wrote: »

car 1 only got pics of one side of the car which could be laziness or damage on the other side
It doesnt have the original radio so the contrls on the steering wheel wont work and isnt the highest spec. No aircon but if you got it for 1100 and it was in good nick not bad at all.

car 2 nct is a bit short here. I would be looking for about 9 months on the car given the new rules about when you can test a car

car 3 short test galactic milage and a nasty dent.

Yeah wasn't even considering car 3 just seeing what is around at the minute but thanks for the advise on them

unkel

'05 Lexus GS300, asking €2,300 but if the seller is realistic he'd be a fool to refuse €2k in cash for it

A lot of car for the money, low miles, well built, but bad tax (€1,500)

Linky

Simonigs1.0

/do want.

W123-80's

'03 9-5 estate 2.3
Test Nov '15
Tax End Dec '14
Asking €750
There is a catch so it may not count.....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-5-vector-estate-2-3t-2003/8133649

unkel

W123-80's wrote: »

There is a catch so it may not count.....

A c'mon you're wasting our time now

You know full well from all the posts over the years about the sludge issue on the 9-5 that that engine is fecked so the car is worth no more than scrap money...

Sorry don't want to be harsh, but you got me all excited until I read the ad

toyotaavensis

unkel wrote: »

A c'mon you're wasting our time now

You know full well from all the posts over the years about the sludge issue on the 9-5 that that engine is fecked so the car is worth no more than scrap money...

Sorry don't want to be harsh, but you got me all excited until I read the ad

The check engine light is probably a sensor or DI cassette. Car is far from scrap and sludge wont be an issue as it has had the turbo replaced the sump cleaned and the updated crank case breather fitted.

W123-80's

unkel wrote: »

A c'mon you're wasting our time now

You know full well from all the posts over the years about the sludge issue on the 9-5 that that engine is fecked so the car is worth no more than scrap money...

Sorry don't want to be harsh, but you got me all excited until I read the ad

Fair enough.. Kinda knew I shouldn't have posted it.
I was dazzled by all the test etc...

unkel

toyotaavensis wrote: »

The check engine light is probably a sensor or DI cassette.

Neither of us can say for sure, but I have a feeling the seller knows full well what the story is.

Turbo gone means the engine was probably already mortally wounded at that time...

toastedpickles

Awww I missed all the saab talk :pac:

Toyotaavensis, That wine 9-5 is you stuck actually a good buy, the guy has a thread over on backroads if you want I'll link it to you

toastedpickles

unkel wrote: »

Neither of us can say for sure, but I have a feeling the seller knows full well what the story is.

Turbo gone means the engine was probably already mortally wounded at that time...

I'd bet money that it's the throttle body, I've gone through three on mine so far

toastedpickles

Also how rude of me not to post a car, If i had 800 i'd be all over this, no nct though, and the tax well....:rolleyes:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9000-cse-2-3-turbo/7908374

davycc

toyotaavensis wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-vector-estate-new-nct/8101610

I dont know why but i got a good feeling about this.

A poster on backroads.ie is selling it been very well looked after from reading the project and for sale threads on there.
Could put your mind at ease about buying a cheap enough Saab:-)

Odyssey 2005

toastedpickles wrote: »

Also how rude of me not to post a car, If i had 800 i'd be all over this, no nct though, and the tax well....:rolleyes:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9000-cse-2-3-turbo/7908374

Cameraman is a midget. No wonder he's selling it:; he can't reach the pedals:)

CJhaughey

toastedpickles wrote: »

Also how rude of me not to post a car, If i had 800 i'd be all over this, no nct though, and the tax well....:rolleyes:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9000-cse-2-3-turbo/7908374

Suspension has been lowered, not enough ground clearance for the shíte roads I drive.
Nice looking 9000 though but I don't like slammed suspension.