BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

bear1

racso1975 wrote: »

Just looking for peoples thoughts Think I got a decent bangernomics deal yesterday.

05 almera sve model
Half leather
73k miles
Nct till june 2015
Tax till july
Body very clean.
1500 euro

Very good deal by the sounds of it.
AC?
My mother has the SX 2005 version from new, 4 things I don't like about it.

1) Radio is very weak (speakers I mean)
2) seats are not comfortable
3) very underpowered
4) goes through petrol very quickly

But, it has never left her by the side of the road so it does have it's good stuff.

alias no.9

racso1975 wrote: »

Just looking for peoples thoughts Think I got a decent bangernomics deal yesterday.

05 almera sve model
Half leather
73k miles
Nct till june 2015
Tax till july
Body very clean.
1500 euro

Don't neglect the oil changes, the timing chains on these are prone to stretching, usually indicated by an engine warning light for the cam position sensor.

Are these any good? Diesel estate Stilo. Nct till
1/15

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-stilo-jtd-nct-1-15/6517618

toyotaavensis

alias no.9 wrote: »

Don't neglect the oil changes, the timing chains on these are prone to stretching, usually indicated by an engine warning light for the cam position sensor.

or a rattle or the rev clock needle wobbling.

bear1

Deleted User wrote: »

Are these any good? Diesel estate Stilo. Nct till
1/15

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-stilo-jtd-nct-1-15/6517618

They are an ok car IMO and the engine in those are very good.
That has a bit of a basic spec though, you could easily get one with AC in your budget I'd imagine.

bear1

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vectra-2-2-nct/6881257

Granted the NCT is up in June, wonder what's wrong with it.

Toyotafanboi

bear1 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vectra-2-2-nct/6881257

Granted the NCT is up in June, wonder what's wrong with it.

thats about all its worth, if anything it's a little expensive. i bought an 03 with the 2.0 diesel, SXi spec nearly 3 years ago for less than 2k.

no tax or test, undesirable 2.2 with the "high tax", decent bit of wear on the seats, armrest and gearstick, i'd nearly say its covered more than 166k. those exhausts aren't factory and the front end looks like it's been hopped off a ditch. ex felt spec'er imo. wouldn't touch it.

edit: very under-rated car though, i'd definitely have another.

bear1

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

thats about all its worth, if anything it's a little expensive. i bought an 03 with the 2.0 diesel, SXi spec nearly 3 years ago for less than 2k.

no tax or test, undesirable 2.2 with the "high tax", decent bit of wear on the seats, armrest and gearstick, i'd nearly say its covered more than 166k. those exhausts aren't factory and the front end looks like it's been hopped off a ditch. ex felt spec'er imo. wouldn't touch it.

edit: very under-rated car though, i'd definitely have another.

Well it does still have some test tax it doesn't mention so I'd say you're right there.
The interior is mouldy with what looks bit a piece missing from the drivers seat.
The exahusts are crap and I'd have them removed.
I think you are getting the impression the front end has had contact judging by it just been washed. Body seems straight to me.
With all that in mind it wouldn't put me off.
Show up with 800e and you're laughing.
Fix her up to the condition it deserves to be in and you'd have a good runner there.

Toyotafanboi

ah the test is up, its out in 3 weeks ish. those driver seats are very ad for getting torn/ frayed bolsters so i'd say that's why the cover is over it.

i appreciate the car has just been washed and there is suds on the back bumper but the front bumper has definitely got a big scuff and some paint gone on the passenger corner and i think the centre grille is missing too.

it surely would be a nice car all cleaned up, it's a nice spec, looks like it has the standard nav unit and all. just i reckon by the time it's taxed, tested and tidied you'l have spent another €1k on it and for that price i'd rather just buy a good one that i know hasn't been dogged.

bear1

Fair enough

Toyotafanboi

ah i'm just saying. sure there's nothing more fun than a fixer upper to a car guy... just a kind of deceptive advert imo

bear1

Ah no worries











ya bastard ya

cadaliac

bear1 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vectra-2-2-nct/6881257

Granted the NCT is up in June, wonder what's wrong with it.

the 2.2 - that's whats wrong with it. Its a known troublesome engine.
I personally wouldn't touch it. I also agree that it was damaged (albeit slightly) at the front.
166k and you could be getting into big repair bills. I'd see what work has already been done before I'd invest.

Moneymaker

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/06-fiat-punto-nct-2016/6900403

Kaiser D

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/cheap-car-nct7-15tax11-14/6880098

unkel

Taxed till the end of the year!

colm_mcm

Got quite a few cars for sale.
Imagine what he bought it for...

JohnBoy26

racso1975 wrote: »

Just looking for peoples thoughts Think I got a decent bangernomics deal yesterday.

05 almera sve model
Half leather
73k miles
Nct till june 2015
Tax till july
Body very clean.
1500 euro

They are nice enough looking cars in hatchback form but they are a poor car by any standard. They are Cheaply made, Noisy, rattledy, have poor road manners, aren't that economical and they give a whole host of reliability and build quality related issues(stretched timing chains, gearboxes, melted headlights, rust etc)

Sorry, I know you just bought it, but you asked for peoples thoughts and that's my honest opinion of those almeras.

rizzodun

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

They are nice enough looking cars in hatchback form but they are a poor car by any standard. They are Cheaply made, Noisy, rattledy, have poor road manners, aren't that economical and they give a whole host of reliability and build quality related issues(stretched timing chains, gearboxes, melted headlights, rust etc)

Sorry, I know you just bought it, but you asked for peoples thoughts and that's my honest opinion of those almeras.

JohnBoy, I'm just curious, I've noticed before your comment on almeras, what experience did you have of them that makes you so critical? Do you work in the car industry? What do you use as a daily driver?

I owned a N15 Almera and never put me wrong despite being abused to high heaven before I bought it.

I currently drive a 04 N16 saloon, and my wife has a 01 N16 hatch, my parents also had a 01 N16 saloon, and while those problems you've mentioned (timing chain, gearbox, headlights) are known, the only problem I've had is the smoked headlight problem with my phase 2, which I just replaced for NCT, the car could not be faulted at the last NCT apart from this. The wifes also passed NCT without a hitch.

I don't agree with the poor road manners comment either, as someone who nearly put a corolla into a hedge doing the same speed on a road I drive every day in my almera I think the handling in the almera is quite respectable, our two are quite solid and not noisy at all.

I do agree about the engine though, can be quite under whelming and second gear is terrible compared to a civic for instance, something that bugs me pulling away from a junction, it can be quite thirsty on town driving, but I regularly get 34 mpg on mixture of town and dual carriageway, I got 40+ on a trip to Dublin last year.

As a guy who has been around 4 almeras quite regular (a friend also has a 06 hatch) I have never seen the likes of the problems you've mentioned. I don't deny they exist, but it seems like if looked after, our almeras at least serve us well.

I do have a problem with the radio in mine, I suspect it's a wire grounding on the metal somewhere though, never got around to pulling the dash to chase it.

Not knocking your opinion by the way, I just find interesting.

CianRyan

I wouldn't buy one but the amount of N16 taxis you see around... They're hardly going to pick something so manically suicial to cart their fairs around in.
If the car decides to die so often, they won't get any work done.

W123-80's

2004 S40
Tested 12/14
Tax 12/14
Leather & Auto
Small bit of haggling and its not a bad bus for the money.
Asking €1,850

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-volvo-s40-nct-12-14-tax-12-14-auto/6903040

toyotaavensis

I had one and it cost 2000 over 6 months.
I had minded it like a baby having never missed a service (bought with a maindealer FSH and 58000 on the clock). I would never touch one ever again.
Faults in 6 months included
brake calipers
wiper box
timing chain
heater controls
gearbox
sensor on camshaft, crankshaft and oxygen sensors
boot leak
seatbelt broke
radio gave up
clutch (although i appreciate this is a wearing part)
battery (again a wearing part but an extra bill nonetheless)
I think I forgot something but I think thats most of it.


edit: i had it for 15 months without any hassle until the sh1t storm happened.

rizzodun

toyotaavensis wrote: »

I had one and it cost 2000 over 6 months.
I had minded it like a baby having never missed a service (bought with a maindealer FSH and 58000 on the clock). I would never touch one ever again.
Faults in 6 months included
brake calipers
wiper box
timing chain
heater controls
gearbox
sensor on camshaft, crankshaft and oxygen sensors
boot leak
seatbelt broke
radio gave up
clutch (although i appreciate this is a wearing part)
battery (again a wearing part but an extra bill nonetheless)
I think I forgot something but I think thats most of it.


edit: i had it for 15 months without any hassle until the sh1t storm happened.

Some people would argue that could be a isolated case though, look at all the fans of the Ford Focus but I know a guy who had to put an engine, clutch, front disks and a front shock in one in just over a year. This is probably derailing the thread too much now though. But I can understand your reluctance to touch one again after that.

toyotaavensis

rizzodun wrote: »

Some people would argue that could be a isolated case though, look at all the fans of the Ford Focus but I know a guy who had to put an engine, clutch, front disks and a front shock in one in just over a year. This is probably derailing the thread too much now though. But I can understand your reluctance to touch one again after that.

I was unlucky the wipers the gearbox and the chain were common failures the rest were bad luck.

A buddy of mine bought one last year and she hasnt missed a beat.

JohnBoy26

toyotaavensis wrote: »

I was unlucky the wipers the gearbox and the chain were common failures the rest were bad luck.

A buddy of mine bought one last year and she hasnt missed a beat.

I've seen both gearbox and wiper motors going in a few of them also so not so sure if its that uncommon. The cases of wiper motor failures i've seen in them had resulted in the wipers staying on constantly and couldn't be turned off.

front cross members literally melting with rust, some as early as four years old:eek: is another common issue with them.

pockets3d

Surely the amount of sex you would get, makes it a bargain.




On chill.ie insurance for it coming up as if its a normal corolla saloon, much tempted

toyotaavensis

I would love to know what sort of women are in your locality.

pockets3d

Sorry lad, suppose be easier to get fat dolls into an avensis after all

rizzodun

pockets3d wrote: »

Sorry lad, suppose be easier to get fat dolls into an avensis after all

Seen that around, but no NCT means it doesn't qualify.

toyotaavensis

I dont know how many women would go for super strut suspension being written on the side of the car.

I am engaged so I dont need to use a car to try and find a bird but if I end up single again i can buy one of those and give it a go. Any women who I would pull with that car would lead to me wrapping up well.

Anyways back to the topic at hand
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-d4d/6767532

are these any good - http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-meriva-2003-nct-07-2014/6567457

MidlandsM

pockets3d wrote: »

Sorry lad, suppose be easier to get fat dolls into an avensis after all

:pac::pac:

pockets3d

Clio 1.6 nct 9/14


Always liked these with a bit of spec

Kintarō Hattori

pockets3d wrote: »

Clio 1.6 nct 9/14
Always liked these with a bit of spec

I think that's been for sale for an age OR it's just recently been put back up. I remember seeing that a good while back.

jharr100

2005 SAAB 93
1.8i Linear
NCT 5-15
Asking 1650
160K km

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-2005/6870055

Old diesel

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

I think that's been for sale for an age OR it's just recently been put back up. I remember seeing that a good while back.

What engine is in that Clio - afaik - there are 2 1.6 Renault Petrol engines - theres one type that was used in the Laguna II - and another type used in the Megane II.

One has variable valve timing I think - the other doesn't.

The type that's in the Megane II - gives trouble with some pulley apparently.

Something to think about I think

bear1

pockets3d wrote: »

Surely the amount of sex you would get, makes it a bargain.




On chill.ie insurance for it coming up as if its a normal corolla saloon, much tempted

Would you actually try and insure that as a Corolla? You would absolutely mad to do that.
Good luck if there is ever a crash or you are stopped by the Guards.
Oh and it has no NCT so it doesn't belong here.

rizzodun wrote: »

Seen that around, but no NCT means it doesn't qualify.

Guess as well why it wouldn't pass the next NCT?

bear1

toyotaavensis wrote: »

I dont know how many women would go for super strut suspension being written on the side of the car.

I am engaged so I dont need to use a car to try and find a bird but if I end up single again i can buy one of those and give it a go. Any women who I would pull with that car would lead to me wrapping up well.

Anyways back to the topic at hand
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-d4d/6767532

are these any good - http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-meriva-2003-nct-07-2014/6567457

Re the Meriva, I don't think it's a good car at all. Extremely underpowered and heavy on fuel.
No tax and the test is just 2 months away but 2 months is better than nothing
The seats at the back look filthy.
As a basic run around I'd imagine it's ok but I wouldn't personally go for it.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

pockets3d wrote: »

Surely the amount of sex you would get, makes it a bargain.




On chill.ie insurance for it coming up as if its a normal corolla saloon, much tempted

Much want, so cheap!

Guy:Incognito

Old diesel wrote: »

What engine is in that Clio - afaik - there are 2 1.6 Renault Petrol engines - theres one type that was used in the Laguna II - and another type used in the Megane II.

One has variable valve timing I think - the other doesn't.

The type that's in the Megane II - gives trouble with some pulley apparently.

Something to think about I think

Dephaser pulley. Best practice to change it when the time in belt is getting done.

W123-80's

'01 Saab 93
Test until 02/15
Asking €599
Could be worth a look.!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-selling-now-599-only-call-/6883742

W123-80's

Sit in and drive away..
Test 08/14
Tax 08/14
Asking €600

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-micra/6904426

W123-80's

'00 Saxo
Test Nov '14
Asking €525

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/00-citroen-saxo-1-1-litre-nct-11-2014/6904438

W123-80's

Heap of test - June '15
Asking €825

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/99-nissan-micra-1-ltr-with-new-nct-/6894302

Guy:Incognito

W123-80's wrote: »

'00 Saxo
Test Nov '14
Asking €525

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/00-citroen-saxo-1-1-litre-nct-11-2014/6904438

That's a nice stone he took a pic of for the 2nd one.:)

Alan_007_

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-golf-gti-tax-and-nct/6886815


Good bit of test, little bit of tax left. Somewhat odd price but I checked on the dealership website and it's the same there, so it could be legitimately €757.

bear1

Aren't I right in thinking that that dealership is known in a negative way?
The price is extremely peculiar, why 757?

Old diesel

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Dephaser pulley. Best practice to change it when the time in belt is getting done.

That's it - couldn't think of the spelling for Dephaser.

Would the Clio 1.6 be the Megane II unit with the dephaser issue - or the Laguna II unit which doesn't.

Moneymaker

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-celica/6905689

Alan_007_

bear1 wrote: »

Aren't I right in thinking that that dealership is known in a negative way?
The price is extremely peculiar, why 757?

You could well be, I'm not too sure myself. Was just browsing donedeal and came upon this one.

Old diesel

bear1 wrote: »

Aren't I right in thinking that that dealership is known in a negative way?
The price is extremely peculiar, why 757?

Their reputation isn't exactly the sort of reputation youd like the dealer selling your used car to have - apparently.

Have never dealt with them myself though - and am in no hurry to either