BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

Moneymaker · 07-10-2014 12:27am

Yeah if I was writing a seminar on spotting dodgy car ads that would be in my PowerPoint presentation.

Also, I see lady owner as a negative. I'd see it as the car will probably need a new clutch sometime soon :pac:

Esel · 07-10-2014 2:45am

jcon1913 wrote: »

Or a Frank Kelly / Eamon Morrisey "deres wan a dem black lads on de winshield. Did ya ever see de like?"

Never saw that episode. Were those lads flies, or even possibly pismires?

DAZP93 · 07-10-2014 11:47am

What do we think of this..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-e-200/7226665

Obviously if its not covered in rust it would do me nicely for 6 months or so. My old man also has one with 240k miles on it still pulling boats and doing 800 miles a week without any big problems

unkel · 07-10-2014 12:02pm

DAZP93 wrote: »

Obviously if its not covered in rust it would do me nicely for 6 months or so.

+1

One of the most comfy cars on the road. For €750 or thereabouts I can think of a lot worse cars to spend the next 6 months in!

jimgoose · 07-10-2014 12:03pm

DAZP93 wrote: »

What do we think of this..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-e-200/7226665

Obviously if its not covered in rust it would do me nicely for 6 months or so. My old man also has one with 240k miles on it still pulling boats and doing 800 miles a week without any big problems

I think at that money you could hardly go wrong. :cool:

DAZP93 · 07-10-2014 12:07pm

I think your all dead right.. next to get a bus from Cork to monaghan :pac:

Moneymaker · 07-10-2014 1:18pm

DAZP93 wrote: »

What do we think of this..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-e-200/7226665

Obviously if its not covered in rust it would do me nicely for 6 months or so. My old man also has one with 240k miles on it still pulling boats and doing 800 miles a week without any big problems

Nice. Drive it for 6 months and retest it or break it for close to what you paid for it.

Be a lovely comfy cruiser.

DAZP93 · 07-10-2014 1:45pm

I rang the chap there, he has poor english (not that that would put me off) but I'm finding it hard to get any answers to my questions. Saying that, it only passed the NCT on the 30/06 so it cant have deteriorated that much *crosses fingers.

The last thing I want is to sit on a bus for 6 hours and find that its a bit of a dog.

unkel · 07-10-2014 2:30pm

DAZP93 wrote: »

Saying that, it only passed the NCT on the 30/06 so it cant have deteriorated that much *crosses fingers.

That would be my thinking. Surely you wouldn't care much if it has a few more dents / scratches than you were expecting?

If you can spare the time (don't have to take time out of work etc.), it's probably worth the risk going over

Moneymaker · 07-10-2014 2:32pm

I'd chance it. It's a pretty low risk investment and if its all good you won't have to worry about catching a bus home.

Do your standard checks for any car(oil, weird noises, brakes etc) and thats good enough for me when its an 800 quid car imo.

b.harte · 07-10-2014 9:42pm

DAZP93 wrote: »

What do we think of this..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-e-200/7226665

Merc E200

Is this the model that suffers from timing chain stretch?
genuine question, will be on the lookout in a few weeks and seeing a lot of these about.

colm_mcm · 07-10-2014 9:49pm

Spacewagon
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-space-vagin-7-seater-for-sale/7610847

colm_mcm · 07-10-2014 9:50pm

Astra Turbo

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-astra-2-0-turbo-nct-5-15/7204419

New turbo just fitted would make me cautious.

unkel · 07-10-2014 9:50pm

b.harte wrote: »

Is this the model that suffers from timing chain stretch?

If it is still ok after 13 years and 125k miles, I'd say the car will probably be ok for another 6 months too

colm_mcm · 07-10-2014 9:53pm

Tiny bit tough but love it
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2002-fiat-sciento-1-1-very-low-milage-61000/7815195

b.harte · 07-10-2014 9:59pm

unkel wrote: »

If it is still ok after 13 years and 125k miles, I'd say the car will probably be ok for another 6 months too

Okay, I deserved that...:o
Genuine question - there's a ton of these knocking about, really tempted by E200 or VolvoS80 / V70 any likely/potential pitfalls?
My own current bangernomics is a <1k diesel octavia that was found here 2 yrs ago and is still going strong.
The next purchase is for the missus to bring the kids a few miles to school, she wants an auto with room for 3 child seats and doesn't want MPV or SUV. under 10k km a year I would guess so petrol/ diesel not really a major consideration.
[Sorry if I'm not allowed to ask a question in thread]

CJhaughey · 07-10-2014 11:11pm

b.harte wrote: »

Okay, I deserved that...:o
Genuine question - there's a ton of these knocking about, really tempted by E200 or VolvoS80 / V70 any likely/potential pitfalls?
My own current bangernomics is a <1k diesel octavia that was found here 2 yrs ago and is still going strong.
The next purchase is for the missus to bring the kids a few miles to school, she wants an auto with room for 3 child seats and doesn't want MPV or SUV. under 10k km a year I would guess so petrol/ diesel not really a major consideration.

Small mileages don't suit diesels at all.
Better to get a petrol for school runs.

Ded_Zebra · 07-10-2014 11:19pm

CJhaughey wrote: »

Small mileages don't suit diesels at all.
Better to get a petrol for school runs.

True for modern diesels but for the old stuff it does't really matter

CJhaughey · 08-10-2014 12:13am

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

True for modern diesels but for the old stuff it does't really matter

I don't agree, even old diesels like a good run. diesels need a good few miles before they warm up enough to give heat and start to perform normally.
You'd be driving with no heater all the way there and back in winter.
DAMHIK.

Ded_Zebra · 08-10-2014 12:21am

CJhaughey wrote: »

I don't agree, even old diesels like a good run. diesels need a good few miles before they warm up enough to give heat and start to perform normally.
You'd be driving with no heater all the way there and back in winter.
DAMHIK.

True but I don't think that harms them mechanically at all. Not pleasant for the occupants though!!!

unkel · 08-10-2014 12:29am

b.harte wrote: »

E200 or VolvoS80

S80 probably more reliable / less to go wrong and driven like miss daisy all its life

Pick up an '02 or '03 for about a grand. 5 pot turbo 180BHP, that's quite a bit of poke for your 2l tax

Personally, I'd be tempted by the comfort of the W210 though...

faral · 08-10-2014 12:41am

colm_mcm wrote: »

Spacewagon
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-space-vagin-7-seater-for-sale/7610847

well its says something different :cool: has to be well maintained

Sobanek · 08-10-2014 6:05am

faral wrote: »

well its says something different :cool: has to be well maintained

what's a space vagina?

jill_valentine · 08-10-2014 6:42am

Sobanek wrote: »

what's a space vagina?

The final frontier?

CheezePleeze · 08-10-2014 12:20pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-728-tax-11-14-nct-2-15/7708151

2 litre 7 series Beamer. Its a bit out of bangernomics range, but would you? I would...

Toyotafanboi · 08-10-2014 12:27pm

it's a reverse sleeper. 750 badge with a 2.0 engine :pac:

dr.fuzzenstein · 08-10-2014 12:30pm

CheezePleeze wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-728-tax-11-14-nct-2-15/7708151

2 litre 7 series Beamer. Its a bit out of bangernomics range, but would you? I would...

That should read 2.8 liter?

justsomebloke · 08-10-2014 12:43pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

That should read 2.8 liter?

2.8 on the add, 2 on the books and 5.4 on the car.

Ded_Zebra · 08-10-2014 1:07pm

justsomebloke wrote: »

2.8 on the add, 2 on the books and 5.4 on the car.

it's a 6 pot in the car so I would guess its the 2.8.

wonski · 08-10-2014 1:11pm

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

it's a 6 pot in the car so I would guess its the 2.8.

It is 2.0 on my wheels. Someone lied to the motor tax people;)

bear1 · 08-10-2014 1:13pm

^^ all that info would make me steer clear of the car.

bear1 · 08-10-2014 1:19pm

At the upper end of the scale we have these:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-bora-tdi-6-speed/7833743

NCT 01/15

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-c-class-c220-cdi-automati/7833516

NCT 06/15

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-sante-fe/7511970

NCT 07/15

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-kia-sorento-quick-sale/7832057

NCT 02/15 - I'd say you could get this for just about bangernomic money

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/citroen-c5-1-6-hdi-110-sx-kph/7831437

NCT 02/15 the bodywork is a bit rough but those seats are very comfortable and the inside seems ok.

bear1 · 08-10-2014 1:25pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2002-toyota-avensis-verso-2-0-d4d/7828268

This yoke looks absolutely spotless! Dull as a rainy day but for the family man it's a good find. Decent spec as well.
NCT 07/15.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-vel-statis/7792904

Lets see, what do we have here:

Tax - Check 11/14
NCT - Check 07/15
Full heated leather interior - Check
Ugly - Check but I'd still drive it

Dermo123 · 08-10-2014 1:43pm

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

it's a 6 pot in the car so I would guess its the 2.8.

The 2 litre M52 engine was also 6 pot was it not?
So it could be a legit transplant.
Perhaps seller has certification seeing as it corresponds on the various websites etc:

Ded_Zebra · 08-10-2014 1:50pm

Dermo123 wrote: »

The 2 litre M52 engine was also 6 pot was it not?
So it could be a legit transplant.
Perhaps seller has certification seeing as it corresponds on the various websites etc:

It was but I would say it's more lightly to be a 2.0;) than a 2.0.

I've been wrong before though! Someone will have to contact the seller to know for sure.

Foxhole Norman · 08-10-2014 2:08pm

Dermo123 wrote: »

The 2 litre M52 engine was also 6 pot was it not?
So it could be a legit transplant.
Perhaps seller has certification seeing as it corresponds on the various websites etc:

The 2.0 was a 6 cylinder alright but I can't see why anyone would transplant a 2.0 producing 150 into a car like that which originally came with a 192hp 2.8, I'd say it's a dodgy tax book jobbie.

Moneymaker · 08-10-2014 2:26pm

I'd run a mile from that seven series. It looks alright in the photos but yeah its pure dodgy.

jimgoose · 08-10-2014 2:28pm

bear1 wrote: »

...http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-vel-statis/7792904

Lets see, what do we have here:

Tax - Check 11/14
NCT - Check 07/15
Full heated leather interior - Check
Ugly - Check but I'd still drive it

I drove one of them for a couple of weeks in France a few years back. The weird looks actually grow on you, and it was a mighty yoke on l'Autoroute. 2l turbo with six-speed 'box back in 2004, plenty long-legged stomp bah! :cool:

zurbfoundation · 08-10-2014 2:41pm

jimgoose wrote: »

I drove one of them for a couple of weeks in France a few years back. The weird looks actually grow on you, and it was a mighty yoke on l'Autoroute. 2l turbo with six-speed 'box back in 2004, plenty long-legged stomp bah! :cool:

i dont find them ugly to be honest - would jump at one sooner than anything from Korea

unkel · 08-10-2014 2:58pm

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

The 2.0 was a 6 cylinder alright but I can't see why anyone would transplant a 2.0 producing 150 into a car like that which originally came with a 192hp 2.8

+1

And the 2.8 was underpowered enough as it was for the E38

E38 without V8, you might as well have no E38 at all

dr.fuzzenstein · 08-10-2014 3:24pm

unkel wrote: »

+1

And the 2.8 was underpowered enough as it was for the E38

E38 without V8, you might as well have no E38 at all

But not in Ireland, we love big cars, with tiny, wheezy engines.
I know a guy who had a 1970's 380 SEL and put a 3 liter diesel from a W123 300D into it. Jesus wept. He's driving around in it, saying "Jaysus, she's grate! Just the same as before and she'll do 40 to the gallon!"
These people miss the point by so much, they can't even see it anymore.

unkel · 08-10-2014 3:30pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I know a guy who had a 1970's 380 SEL and put a 3 liter diesel from a W123 300D into it.

I had to take a lot of taxis for work in the mid 90s and half the time I got an old S-class with a Nissan diesel in it. Didn't complain though, plenty of space in the back and far more comfy than a 1.3 Toyota Corolla, especially at 4.45AM on a Monday morning

Bigus · 08-10-2014 5:47pm

Almost free if you offloaded it in the new year chancing til then without taxing it .1950 ; 2006

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-mondeo-platinum-auto-estate/7826194

Foxhole Norman · 08-10-2014 7:48pm

unkel wrote: »

+1

And the 2.8 was underpowered enough as it was for the E38

E38 without V8, you might as well have no E38 at all

I agree that you need a V8 at least in the 7er but the 2.8 is no real slouch, if I remember a video of VoodooMelon's he clocked 8 seconds to 60.

166Man just got a 750i