BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

Big Nasty

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/range-rover-p38-diesel/7873564

quadrifoglio verde

Moneymaker wrote: »

Dead cow would be a must tbh.

Anything nice in the 1.6-2.0 range i'd consider, doesn't have to be an Alfa. Always wanted one though.

Dead cow can be picked up for 100 euro. I wouldn't pht of buying a good one because it doesn't have any. Very easy to retrofit, although harder in post 2000 ones (airbags).

dr.fuzzenstein

percy212 wrote: »

Help me out here everyone. Sadly my beloved e46 died at the weekend. I am looking for a nice comfy luxurious replacement in which I can wear sunglasses and pretend to be a secret agent. 2k budget.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-is200-mint-2002-tested/7811255

percy212

Why are jags so cheap?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-s-type-nct-12-14/7549936

NewApproach

It's a 13 year old car with a three litre petrol engine, what do you think it should be?

I like that Range Rover

percy212

Oh maybe a million euro or so.

Esel

percy212 wrote: »

Why are jags so cheap?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-s-type-nct-12-14/7549936

Sometimes they are cheap because the seller either (a) didn't think to clean the camera lens before taking pictures; (b) smeared a very small bit of petroleum jelly on the lens before taking pictures; (c) as stated above or (d) short NCT.

cadaliac

Esel wrote: »

Sometimes they are cheap because the seller either (a) didn't think to clean the camera lens before taking pictures; (b) smeared a very small bit of petroleum jelly on the lens before taking pictures; (c) as stated above or (d) short NCT.

It really is amazing what you can tell from an ad.
As above - what were the sellers thinking - seriously ?
On a side note - not washing a car before selling? WTF?

W123-80's

'97 Rav4
Test Sept '15
Nice looking little bus
Asking €975

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1997-toyota-rav4-4x4-nct-09-15-original/7810914

W123-80's

'97 Carina
Test October '15
Asking €650

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-carina-1997-nct-passed-tax-until-end-of-dec/7466271

W123-80's

Test August '15
Asking €750

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/classic-volvo-gle-1991-with-full-test/7627830

Moneymaker

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-2002-1-4-nct-3-15/7881595



Good to see good examples of these going into Bangernomics money now. Great cars.

unkel

Moneymaker wrote: »

Great cars.

Great cars? I wouldn't go that far. In fact I'd say it's quite the opposite. As a bangernomics car it's neither here nor there. It's not very cheap and ultra reliable like some of the older Toyotas that are brought up here now and then

And at the top of the bangernomics budget, about 99% of cars mentioned here are far nicer / greater and much better value for money

That's all pretty objective. To add my personal opinion: it's one of the worst and most boring cars I've ever driven and the styling must have been done by a robotic clone of a drunk Asian - there is zero style going on, no redeeming features at all.

toyotaavensis

Moneymaker wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-2002-1-4-nct-3-15/7881595
Good to see good examples of these going into Bangernomics money now. Great cars.

Dead right - they have great reliability and in terms of the class of car they are in are second only to the focus in my opinion.

unkel wrote: »

Great cars? I wouldn't go that far. In fact I'd say it's quite the opposite. As a bangernomics car it's neither here nor there. It's not very cheap and ultra reliable like some of the older Toyotas that are brought up here now and then

And at the top of the bangernomics budget, about 99% of cars mentioned here are far nicer / greater and much better value for money

That's all pretty objective. To add my personal opinion: it's one of the worst and most boring cars I've ever driven and the styling must have been done by a robotic clone of a drunk Asian - there is zero style going on, no redeeming features at all.

They arent cheap as they are a good car. They also have the same engine and gearbox as the previous corolla so I dont know what you mean by they arent as good as the older toyotas with the same drive train.

99% of the cars at the top end of the bangernomics budget wont hold their value as well and probably wont be as reliable.

Your third paragraph makes me think you are drunk yourself or else just a racist.

Moneymaker

unkel wrote: »

Great cars? I wouldn't go that far. In fact I'd say it's quite the opposite. As a bangernomics car it's neither here nor there. It's not very cheap and ultra reliable like some of the older Toyotas that are brought up here now and then

And at the top of the bangernomics budget, about 99% of cars mentioned here are far nicer / greater and much better value for money

That's all pretty objective. To add my personal opinion: it's one of the worst and most boring cars I've ever driven and the styling must have been done by a robotic clone of a drunk Asian - there is zero style going on, no redeeming features at all.

Obviously there are better cars, there are better bangernomics on this page. It depends on your tastes on what you look for in this thread.

But for the average motorist, for a person with a small budget, it's a good choice. Cheap to run, cheap to tax, fairly modern, good build quality and reliable. Those Corollas were a worthy replacement of the previous model, which obviously was famed for its reliability. It'll hold its value and it will be easy to sell and its desirable.

I think the styling is fine. It's not striking or anything, but it's fairly inoffensive.

They tick a lot of boxes for a lot of people, so that makes it good bangernomics imo. No redeeming features is just silly, frankly.

JohnBoy26

unkel wrote: »

Great cars? I wouldn't go that far. In fact I'd say it's quite the opposite. As a bangernomics car it's neither here nor there. It's not very cheap and ultra reliable like some of the older Toyotas that are brought up here now and then

And at the top of the bangernomics budget, about 99% of cars mentioned here are far nicer / greater and much better value for money

That's all pretty objective. To add my personal opinion: it's one of the worst and most boring cars I've ever driven and the styling must have been done by a robotic clone of a drunk Asian - there is zero style going on, no redeeming features at all.

:rolleyes:

Karl Stein

unkel wrote: »

Great cars? I wouldn't go that far. In fact I'd say it's quite the opposite.

The opposite being awful or terrible. That would be wrong by any neutral person's standards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

Big Nasty

Well that escalated quickly! :eek:

unkel

I guess opinions are like ar$eholes

Me I'd rather a comfy luxurious and safe Mercedes-Benz E200 auto with leather and a good spec for €800 than a €2,200 Corolla of the same age with, I repeat, no redeeming features. The former will cost maybe a tenner more per week in total cost of ownership over a year or two (so only marginally more)

But I guess some of the above posters somehow would be happier owning a Corolla

26000 Elephants

Theres no wrong or right. But some people who say "toyotas are great, aren't they" are like people who say Brazil are the best football team in the world. There may have been a time when that was true, but that is long gone and the rest of the automotive world has moved on.

In the general buying public, toyota still have this reputation, and people who know little about cars will pay a significant premium for this perceived peace of mind. That premium makes Toyota and other makes with "Sure aren't they a great car?" reputations less valuable in a pure bangernomics sense.

There are several models out there for significantly less money that are equally as good, and indeed may prove to be a far more enjoyable experience. bangernomics isnt really about resale value, and even then, you are relying on finding another fool who will pay you a premium for it.

As for looks, I aint going there. I drive a croma for gods sake.:cool:

DAZP93

unkel wrote: »

I guess opinions are like ar$eholes

Me I'd rather a comfy luxurious and safe Mercedes-Benz E200 auto with leather and a good spec for €800 than a €2,200 Corolla of the same age with, I repeat, no redeeming features. The former will cost maybe a tenner more per week in total cost of ownership over a year or two (so only marginally more)

But I guess some of the above posters somehow would be happier owning a Corolla

Amen to that!!

jimgoose

unkel wrote: »

I guess opinions are like ar$eholes

Me I'd rather a comfy luxurious and safe Mercedes-Benz E200 auto with leather and a good spec for €800 than a €2,200 Corolla of the same age with, I repeat, no redeeming features. The former will cost maybe a tenner more per week in total cost of ownership over a year or two (so only marginally more)

But I guess some of the above posters somehow would be happier owning a Corolla

Say it, brother! :cool:

flazio

unkel wrote: »

I guess opinions are like ar$eholes

Me I'd rather a comfy luxurious and safe Mercedes-Benz E200 auto with leather and a good spec for €800 than a €2,200 Corolla of the same age with, I repeat, no redeeming features. The former will cost maybe a tenner more per week in total cost of ownership over a year or two (so only marginally more)

But I guess some of the above posters somehow would be happier owning a Corolla

You honestly think that the extra tax, extra fuel it burns, extra on insurance for a more powerful car will only come up to an extra €520 a year?

Moneymaker

unkel wrote: »

I guess opinions are like ar$eholes

Me I'd rather a comfy luxurious and safe Mercedes-Benz E200 auto with leather and a good spec for €800 than a €2,200 Corolla of the same age with, I repeat, no redeeming features. The former will cost maybe a tenner more per week in total cost of ownership over a year or two (so only marginally more)

But I guess some of the above posters somehow would be happier owning a Corolla

Not at all, but that's not the point.

Add in insurance costs, tax, fuel, servicing it will definitely cost more then a tenner a week to run.

Bangernomics is more then nice big Mercs for no money. It's also basic cars for people on a budget, city cars, estates, and the occasional Alfa.

There's nothing more to say so can we get back to the bangers please?! :pac:

Moneymaker

Just for you unkel;

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-gs-3-0-litre-petrol/7846818

percy212

Why are saabs so cheap? I like this one for example....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2005-areo-2005-nct-3-15/7854585

bear1

percy212 wrote: »

Why are saabs so cheap? I like this one for example....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2005-areo-2005-nct-3-15/7854585

yeah I wish they were more expensive
That doesn't look too bad

Moneymaker

Which Saabs have the sludge issues?

W123-80's

flazio wrote: »

You honestly think that the extra tax, extra fuel it burns, extra on insurance for a more powerful car will only come up to an extra €520 a year?

Bearing in mind the Merc cost €1,400 lees to buy.

commited

Moneymaker wrote: »

Which Saabs have the sludge issues?

That generation of 9-3 are safe, the pre-2004 (iirc) 9-5s are prone to it as well as the earlier generation of 9-3.

26000 Elephants

flazio wrote: »

You honestly think that the extra tax, extra fuel it burns, extra on insurance for a more powerful car will only come up to an extra €520 a year?

Actually, its €667 a year - about €12 a week. ( based on corrolla 7l/100km v. merc e200 9l/100km over 10k kms)

Insurance, TPO, Male 44yrs Full NCB. Difference is about €100.

Tax Toyota, 1,4litre, Merc 1.8 Litre.


I know where I would rather be!!!

plys

Never liked Opel's myself, but this would surely be worth a look..?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-opel-vectra-1-9-cdti-ps-njoy/7888223

NewApproach

Aren't those W210 Mercs just rustbuckets?

DAZP93

NewApproach wrote: »

Aren't those W210 Mercs just rustbuckets?

The early ones - yes.

I have a 2001 with no rust and my father has a 2002 with no rust!

percy212

Thanks for that info. I might buy that one. Unless someone can point me to a better one! Is there anything I should look out for?


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2005-areo-2005-nct-3-15/7854585

commited wrote: »

That generation of 9-3 are safe, the pre-2004 (iirc) 9-5s are prone to it as well as the earlier generation of 9-3.

bear1

If I was buying a 2.0T Saab I'd want a manual. Will feel faster and wont be as bad on fuel.

percy212

Whatever I buy has to be automatic unfortunately....

Does that Saab seem ok otherwise.

My other choice is this merc: http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-c200-kompressor-elegance/7599476

The merc can be had for 1500.

bear1 wrote: »

If I was buying a 2.0T Saab I'd want a manual. Will feel faster and wont be as bad on fuel.

bear1

percy212 wrote: »

Whatever I buy has to be automatic unfortunately....

Does that Saab seem ok otherwise.

My other choice is this merc: http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-c200-kompressor-elegance/7599476

The merc can be had for 1500.

I think I'd go for the Saab tbh. 4 years newer would be what does it for me and I think it is a much better looking car oh and also has more bang for your buck. The Merc looks fairly dull inside.

commited

percy212 wrote: »

Thanks for that info. I might buy that one. Unless someone can point me to a better one! Is there anything I should look out for?


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-9-3-2005-areo-2005-nct-3-15/7854585

I have the same car but in manual. It's not an aero by the way, it's a 175bhp 2.0t vector. The cars have a balance shaft guide that snaps and means the engines a bit rough. Doesn't affect how the car drives, just means it feels a bit dieselly. Apart from that they're fairly robust apart from the usual suspension issues that you get with any car. I know the cars fairly well so if you need anything done, give me a shout and I'll point you in the right direction.

W123-80's

Waaaaaaay over budget, meets all other criteria though..!
Test May '15
Tax Feb '15
I know I shouldn't post it here but its class.!
Asking €2,750

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/fiat-126-bambino/7885492

jharr100

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7888907

Saab 9-5 estate ..
No mention of mileage or interior shots

Gone Drinking

http://www.adverts.ie/car/toyota/celica/2001-toyota-celica-for-sale/5969643

zurbfoundation

jharr100 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7888907

Saab 9-5 estate ..
No mention of mileage or interior shots

no NCT

dr.fuzzenstein

Gone Drinking wrote: »

http://www.adverts.ie/car/toyota/celica/2001-toyota-celica-for-sale/5969643

Whoever took those pics had too much coffee.

bear1

W123-80's wrote: »

Waaaaaaay over budget, meets all other criteria though..!
Test May '15
Tax Feb '15
I know I shouldn't post it here but its class.!
Asking €2,750

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/fiat-126-bambino/7885492

I may be wrong (don't think I am though) but I would guess that this is the version that was built in Poland.

jharr100

zurbfoundation wrote: »

no NCT

April 2015

Ded_Zebra

jharr100 wrote: »

April 2015

The disk on thee screen says it's out 4/14

bear1

Seriously ugly as fook but good for lugging kids around I suppose

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/sangyong-rodius-luxury-mpv-2-7-cdi-bargain/7697997

NCT 09/15

flazio

bear1 wrote: »

Seriously ugly as fook but good for lugging kids around I suppose

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/sangyong-rodius-luxury-mpv-2-7-cdi-bargain/7697997

NCT 09/15

They'd never forgive you. Never.

unkel

jharr100 wrote: »

April 2015

Nope, Next NCT Due By: Apr 07 2014

(see ncts.ie)