BANGERNOMICS CAR OF THE WEEK/DAY

littlevillage

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

My first contribution
http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/volvo-s80-only-40k-miles/7552397

Volvo 2005, S80 2.5T Only 42000 miles . All extras , heated mirrors/seats . Four new tyres .All service history .Multi function steering wheel.Half leather interior

€ 1,650 (EUR)

Owned a Volvo V70 2002, something similar to the S80. They are lovely motors. Beautifully designed and built, smooth, comfy Mile munchers. But beware they are big (and wide) so if you live down a small country road you will have it scratched and the mirrors knocked off in no time. Handling is a bit soft so uneven surfaces are not its friend. Volvo are reliable but parts are very expensive.

This would make an ideal taxi ..

mickdw

littlevillage wrote: »

But beware they are big (and wide) so if you live down a small country road you will have it scratched and the mirrors knocked off in no time ..

Might say more about the driver than the car tbh.

unkel

mickdw wrote: »

Might say more about the driver than the car tbh.

This. I've had my share of big cars (some bigger than a V70 / S80) and I've never scratched them, never mind a mirror knocked off. That said, parking in some of the Dublin city centre multi story car parks in a BMW 7-series was sometimes tight. Very tight.

26000 Elephants

old style fiesta - 12 month NCT and taxed till end of year.

Whats not to like? :pac:

Ford Fiesta 1997

jimgoose

26000 Elephants wrote: »

old style fiesta - 12 month NCT and taxed till end of year.

Whats not to like? :pac:

Ford Fiesta 1997

Lovely little old-school Ford. Gobbewiddedays.

unkel

Great find. Only 61k miles too, which could well be genuine. €358 tax instead of the cheaper €199 for a 1l car, but the car should be as cheap to insure and very, very cheap to maintain. Better drivers car than any other supermini of that generation

Zero depreciation helps too and the NCT was done today

Will make someone a very decent very cheap car indeed.

commited

http://www.adverts.ie/car/bmw/other-bmw/2002-bmw-for-sale/6467371
2002 318i estate, 160k, 6 months tax, 9 months NCT - €1000. Looks like a decent car, fitting a MFSW would make a huge improvement too.

alias no.9

unkel wrote: »

Great find. Only 61k miles too, which could well be genuine. €358 tax instead of the cheaper €199 for a 1l car, but the car should be as cheap to insure and very, very cheap to maintain. Better drivers car than any other supermini of that generation

Zero depreciation helps to and the NCT was done today

Will make someone a very decent very cheap car indeed.

There was never any need to clock those Fiestas, they wind round to 0 every 100k.

JohnBoy26

unkel wrote: »

Great find. Only 61k miles too, which could well be genuine. €358 tax instead of the cheaper €199 for a 1l car, but the car should be as cheap to insure and very, very cheap to maintain. Better drivers car than any other supermini of that generation

Zero depreciation helps to and the NCT was done today

Will make someone a very decent very cheap car indeed.

Hugely overrated by the motoring press in that regard. A family member had one from new, it was nothing special to drive at all tbh.

As for reliability they are a grand car in that regard but they are prone to rust on chassis and on the arches.

unkel

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Hugely overrated by the motoring press in that regard. A family member had one from new, it was nothing special to drive at all tbh.

It ain't no hot hatch. That said, it really is much better than any other 90s entry level supermini I have driven (I've probably driven most). Nearly as much fun as some French / Italian small cars of the 70s and 80s

alias no.9 wrote: »

There was never any need to clock those Fiestas, they wind round to 0 every 100k.

Aye, the 5 digit odometer

Plenty of low milers around though. The Mrs had one that we sold @7 years old with 30k genuine miles on it. There were others with similar mileage for sale at the time, I remember having a look to see what I should price it at.

JohnBoy26

unkel wrote: »

It ain't no hot hatch. That said, it really is much better than any other 90s entry level supermini I have driven (I've probably driven most). Nearly as much fun as some French / Italian small cars of the 70s and 80s



Aye, the 5 digit odometer

Plenty of low milers around though. The Mrs had one that we sold @7 years old with 30k genuine miles on it. There were others with similar mileage for sale at the time, I remember having a look to see what I should price it at.

It ain't fun either tbh, the 1.3 engine is very harsh too. The zetec unit is a big improvement, much smoother, but I've never found even those fiestas to be any more fun than most cars in that class. Still I suppose we all have different views and tastes.

For Forks Sake

26000 Elephants wrote: »

old style fiesta - 12 month NCT and taxed till end of year.

Whats not to like? :pac:

Ford Fiesta 1997

Interior looks like there was wildlife camped out in there for a month?

unkel

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Interior looks like there was wildlife camped out in there for a month?

Dude it's a €400 car with 2 months tax and a years test. If the seats were mouldy it would still be a bangernomics bargain

flazio

What about Mazda 121s?
What were they like? Pretty much the same?

colm_mcm

flazio wrote: »

What about Mazda 121s?
What were they like? Pretty much the same?

Yeah but with pure basic spec

flazio

Thanks, went searching on Done Deal for them, only 3 and none of them make good bangernomic candidates. 1 was over priced at a dealer and the other two had poor ads.

For Forks Sake

unkel wrote: »

Dude it's a €400 car with 2 months tax and a years test. If the seats were mouldy it would still be a bangernomics bargain

Oh yeah, they're a great wee car, but you'd want a haz-mat suit before you'd sit into that particular one

Moneymaker

Nice colour, decent-ish spec, looks clean. **** engine but oh well. :pac:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-1-4-nct/7880646

commited

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-407-coupe-2-2-bargain/7923244
2007 Peugeot 407 coupe 2.2, 125k kms, 9 months NCT, €2450
Probably tough to get this into bangernomics budget but looks like a lot of relatively fresh car for the money.

Moneymaker

commited wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-407-coupe-2-2-bargain/7923244
2007 Peugeot 407 coupe 2.2, 125k kms, 9 months NCT, €2450
Probably tough to get this into bangernomics budget but looks like a lot of relatively fresh car for the money.

That's been up before. As far as I remember its a lemon.

JohnBoy26

Moneymaker wrote: »

Nice colour, decent-ish spec, looks clean. **** engine but oh well. :pac:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-1-4-nct/7880646

The engine isn't bad if just pottering around the place, if your not used of the more nippy 1.4 alternatives it's grand. I seen a few focuses up on DD by what appears to be the same seller in the not too distant past so maybe he's a bit of a wheeler dealer.

Anyhow the body is a bit ropey on that car, cleaner examples can be found for similar money.

Moneymaker

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Anyhow the body is a bit ropey on that car, cleaner examples can be found for similar money.

In what way is the body ropey?

toyotaavensis

dents over the back right wheel arch

For Forks Sake

Moneymaker wrote: »

In what way is the body ropey?

Rear driver side wheelarch is crumpled and there looks to be a number of colours of paint on the back bumper.

Moneymaker

I must be going blind :pac:

Interslice

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Great looking car here :pac:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-primera-td-sri/7920186




Would love to see it go to someone who'll look after it

Obviously clocked :pac:. Best of look with the sale. No one came to view mine. It is up for 900euro though.

Ded_Zebra

Interslice wrote: »

Obviously clocked :pac:. Best of look with the sale. No one came to view mine. It is up for 900euro though.

Uptake is slow on mine too. Might need a price drop. I had one guy offer me a Primera 1.6 and cash my way. Don't know if the 1.6 would be an easier sell...

CJhaughey

Moneymaker wrote: »

I must be going blind :pac:

Hairy palms too? Stop looking at pron cars:D

commited

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Uptake is slow on mine too. Might need a price drop. I had one guy offer me a Primera 1.6 and cash my way. Don't know if the 1.6 would be an easier sell...

What are the details on the 1.6?

justsomebloke

commited wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-407-coupe-2-2-bargain/7923244
2007 Peugeot 407 coupe 2.2, 125k kms, 9 months NCT, €2450
Probably tough to get this into bangernomics budget but looks like a lot of relatively fresh car for the money.

Came up at the end of september http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92421737&postcount=4231 so it could well have been sale fell through. However you would need to check as it was mentioned that it only changed ownership in August as well http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92422039&postcount=4233

unkel

Aye could very well be someone got a good deal on it and is hoping to make a few hundred by flipping it again. Current seller seems like a small time dealer, which would be consistent with that.

As always, eyes wide open, but that 407 Coupé surely is one of the nicest / newest cars this thread has ever seen

Moneymaker

Even if it needed a grand worth of work done it's still feck all money.

And it does look beautiful.

Moneymaker

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rover-600/7931869



I can think of worse places to sit for 800 notes.

26000 Elephants

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Oh yeah, they're a great wee car, but you'd want a haz-mat suit before you'd sit into that particular one

Half an hour with astonish upholstery cleaner will get that back looking decent.
Certainly not a deal breaker at his level of the market.

jharr100

Moneymaker wrote: »

Even if it needed a grand worth of work done it's still feck all money.

And it does look beautiful.

If you were to nct it again would it get another 2 years test?

Esel

Moneymaker wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rover-600/7931869



I can think of worse places to sit for 800 notes.

Nice, should have shown a pic of the 'small amount of damage to the passenger door'.

toyotaavensis

A rover with the k series engine makes me think of two words. One starts with H and the other starts with G. Especially when he mentions that the radiator has been replaced.

unkel

jharr100 wrote: »

If you were to nct it again would it get another 2 years test?

Yes. Any car younger than 10 years old will get a 2 years test!

Moneymaker

No mention of a belt change but surely with all the paperwork there it's been done?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-gtv-mint/7835418

Esel

toyotaavensis wrote: »

A rover with the k series engine makes me think of two words. One starts with H and the other starts with G. Especially when he mentions that the radiator has been replaced.

Thought they had a Honda engine? Is it the fact that is 1.8 that tells you it has the Rover K-series engine?

ba_barabus

toyotaavensis wrote: »

A rover with the k series engine makes me think of two words. One starts with H and the other starts with G. Especially when he mentions that the radiator has been replaced.

But it's not a Kettle-Series.

It's a Honda 1.8 in the 600. The later 75 got the Kettle Series.......

unkel

toyotaavensis wrote: »

A rover with the k series engine makes me think of two words. One starts with H and the other starts with G. Especially when he mentions that the radiator has been replaced.

The Rover 600 was a Honda Accord. Including all the boring Honda petrol engines. The only interesting engine (in the turbocharged 620TI) was made by Rover. I almost bought one once

roper1664

Moneymaker wrote: »

No mention of a belt change but surely with all the paperwork there it's been done?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/alfa-gtv-mint/7835418

Looks good but note the following:

VEHICLE
Vehicle Registration Number 02D17501
Vehicle Details ALFA ROMEO / OTHER
Change Of Vehicle Ownership
Transferred to an Individual on :

Notified on : 01/10/2014

06/10/2014
Vehicle Registration Certificate
Most recent Vehicle Registration Certificate issued on : 08/10/2014

toyotaavensis

My bad lads.

JohnBoy26

unkel wrote: »

The Rover 600 was a Honda Accord. Including all the boring Honda petrol engines. The only interesting engine (in the turbocharged 620TI) was made by Rover. I almost bought one once

Nothing at all wrong with the Honda engines. They were a breath of fresh air compared to the unreliable muck rover were producing at the time. It was also one of the reasons why rover stayed going as long as they did, as they actually had a car with a good rep for reliability for once.

ba_barabus

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

They were a breath of fresh air compared to the unreliable muck rover were producing at the time. .

OH JOHN. You were doing so well.

They were making the K-Series engine which was revolutionary for the time. It was also repliable back then as it hadn't suffered from cost cutting.

JohnBoy26

ba_barabus wrote: »

OH JOHN. You were doing so well.

They were making the K-Series engine which was revolutionary for the time. It was also repliable back then as it hadn't suffered from cost cutting.

The k series was over hyped by the British press. On paper it was a great engine but it was a poorly designed unit where reliability is concerned, even the early ones.

The Honda engine is a much more robust unit and offers similar performance. It doesn't suffer from any of the k series's faults and it ages much better. E.g no noisy tappets, piston slap, dropped liners, hg failures etc

ba_barabus

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The k series was over hyped by the British press.

Early ones had relatively few issues and were no worse than any of the competition in that regard. They also pushed out over 100hp (105?) from a 1.4l engine. VW only managed to do that in the Golf over 15 years later. Toyota didn't do it until the VVTI came along.

I'm not for a second dissing the Honda engine at all but I don't think it's fair to say Rover engines were all shyte. And lets not forget, the Rover L-Series engine was good enough for Honda

unkel

ba_barabus wrote: »

And lets not forget, the Rover L-Series engine was good enough for Honda

Only because Honda were unable to make a diesel engine themselves

Two decades later and they're till struggling

Simonigs1.0

unkel wrote: »

Only because Honda were unable to make a diesel engine themselves

Two decades later and they're till struggling

We have new diesel Civic estates in work. I drove one briefly. I actually pity the guys who have to drive them.