Just General Chat About WoT

Spear

It's not so much the T71 is being split, it's that there was two different tanks, both called T71 from Detroit Arsenal and Cadillac. WG botched this before in their research when the first released T71 had the turret of one and the hull of the other.

It's the FV215b 183 replacement that's a bit more unexpected. 0.9.21 will be the third patch in a row where I'll receive a free tier 10.

Aenaes

Spear wrote: »

It's the FV215b 183 replacement that's a bit more unexpected. 0.9.21 will be the third patch in a row where I'll receive a free tier 10.

I read something about that on the forums but it's not explained very well. Wargaming doesn't even mention it on it's website, just about the changes to the other British TD line.

Spear

It's early yet, but they've shown parts of the early models for it.

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/09/14/fv-217-possible-fv215b-183-replacement/

At least it's a real project and made it to the wooden mock upstage, just as the 215b 183 did.

But this would only happen around Christmas time, so no rush yet for those who intend to grind for it.

Aenaes

Okay, that makes more sense. Some talk on the forums was saying it was happening in the next patch.

Spear

The next patch is just the FV215b swap for Super Conq. The patch after that would be the next window, so that would just prior to Christmas.

Annoyingly it seems there's two names floating about for the new TD, FV205 and FV217 have both been floated. Both were real TD projects on the Conq hull, both listed as medium AT capability, but only the 217 was explicitly referred to as having a 120mm gun. WG may aim for a rapid firing 120mm, in line with the Tortoise, which would give them the consistency they're aiming for.

Manic Moran

Spear wrote: »

The next patch is just the FV215b swap for Super Conq. The patch after that would be the next window, so that would just prior to Christmas.

Annoyingly it seems there's two names floating about for the new TD, FV205 and FV217 have both been floated. Both were real TD projects on the Conq hull, both listed as medium AT capability, but only the 217 was explicitly referred to as having a 120mm gun. WG may aim for a rapid firing 120mm, in line with the Tortoise, which would give them the consistency they're aiming for.

It is the 205.

Spear

Manic Moran wrote: »

It is the 205.

The super testers already leaked the lot.

It seems decent, and a far more logical successor to the Tortoise. I've tended to dislike the tier 10 TDs, with them often being lumbering or just frustrating, when big but slow loading guns miss.

Spear

The new supertest has it as FV217 Badger.

Aenaes

Aenaes wrote: »

So the T71 is being split into two lines on the tech tree in the next patch.

T71 gets renamed "T71 DA" and will lead to T57 Heavy.

"T71 CMCD" is being introduced with no magazine loading system and will lead to the Sheridan.

From the WG site: "Please keep in mind that the XP you earned on the T71 DA gets transferred to the T71 CMCD with the release of 9.20.1. Also, there’ll be no transition from the T71 CMCD to the T69 in the Tech Tree, just as there’ll be no way to reach the M41 Bulldog from the T71 DA."

Just a heads up to anyone currently playing the T71. I have 150k exp sitting on the T71 because I wasn't sure whether to research the Bulldog or T69. So it looks like I'll be researching the T69 now.

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So that was all bull**** then? I researched the T69 yesterday before the patch came out and had 40k exp left on the T71. Launch the game today to find I still have 40k exp still on the T71 DA which is useless to me.

Greentree_uk

Does anyone from the last ranked battles know how u get badges? I got to rank 1700 something in league 1. But got no badge this time thought I would get something..... already bought an enhanced rammer for my Lowe.

Spear

Next patch is looking to be Wednesday December 13th, so get your deathstar now if you're getting one.

Spear

Free T-29 premium tier 3 Russian medium if you log in over the next 4 weeks and open the crate:

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/holiday-ops-2018-guide/

Greentree_uk

not sure if still valid but there was a code going about T4NKYOU

beauf

Last I thought there might be a free kv2 but I don't think there was...

Spear

beauf wrote: »

Last I thought there might be a free kv2 but I don't think there was...

There kinda is. One of the tree decorating bonuses is an almost free regular tier 6, with a coupon for 80% off one.

Spear

So WoT is hitting 1.0 in March 2018. Which is almost as notable for blatant abuse of version numbering as much as the long overdue replacement graphic engine is.

You can test the new engine with a stand lone demo version called EnCore:

http://wotencore.net

It's a 1.2gb download.

Canis Lupus

Anyone drop cash on the lootboxs. I've avoided it as I hate said lootboxes but seeing loads of people getting premiums tanks including the type 59 is making me a bit sad.

I like the new engine. It runs ultra around the 70-80 fps mark. Will be interesting to see how it goes with multiple tanks although I couldn't see a way to tweak different gfx settings so I imagine I'll be able to get that up a fair bit once it goes live. I did lol a bit regarding the entire version 1.

Spear

I went for the 75 box package in WoT. Got:

Lorraine 40t
Type 59
Ac-1 Sentinel
about 55k gold.
3.5m silver.

Despite the trigger happy response to lootboxes, in the case of Wargaming, they do provide excellent value. And I don't know if that's even worse given that it makes it easier, if not even logical, to spend more on them.

Canis Lupus

Spear wrote: »

I went for the 75 box package in WoT. Got:

Lorraine 40t
Type 59
Ac-1 Sentinel
about 55k gold.
3.5m silver.

Despite the trigger happy response to lootboxes, in the case of Wargaming, they do provide excellent value. And I don't know if that's even worse given that it makes it easier, if not even logical, to spend more on them.

sigh..... I'm tempted to go for a small number of boxes. I'm assuming the style of box makes no difference?

Spear

Canis Lupus wrote: »

sigh..... I'm tempted to go for a small number of boxes. I'm assuming the style of box makes no difference?

The style gives decorations of that style, it doesn't affect the tanks given (if any).

Canis Lupus

Spear wrote: »

The style gives decorations of that style, it doesn't affect the tanks given (if any).

I didn't actually read it but there was some drama on the SEA server over the boxes. Our ones don't give decorations for some reason.

Spear

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I didn't actually read it but there was some drama on the SEA server over the boxes. Our ones don't give decorations for some reason.

Some stupid law in Japan that disallows given random items to form a colletion in return for a reward. So they just give the shards direct, and people can then randomly generate a decoration manually.

Canis Lupus

The xmas thingy has been useful in other ways. Bought an m48 Patton and equipped it with an all female crew which I got mostly from the rewards. Now I just need to hope the discounts on the tanks don't fall off once the event is over as I don't have enough credits to make use of them at the moment.

beauf

Same here picked up crew and some cheaper tracks but not played enough to use the higher tier discounts

Canis Lupus

Do I need to keep certain decorations that aren't on the tree/house etc or as long as I don't care about specific bonuses can I just break down all the junk I get?

Spear

No, you can deconstruct them all. Once a decoration is obtained it's part of the collection, and can be deconstructed to fill in blanks.

Canis Lupus

M48 Patton swiftly becoming a fave tank. Just bought myself a 112.... Was conflicted between it and an is6.... Hope I made the right call.

Prenderb

@canis lupus I think that you have to designate which tanks you want to use your discounts on before the event ends (in Mid-Jan) but don't have to actually buy them before then.

HTH.

Edit: I've seen some reports that you can designate up until mid-march....

Canis Lupus

Oh wow, the 112 is trollish if you hide the lower glacis. I've bounced more shots in the last couple of hours than I have all week I reckon. Had a couple of 100k credit wins as well.

It's vanilla ammo penetration is a bit poopoo though. It's a ponderous tank as well but in a good way.

beauf

Is it better than an is3. I can't get to grips with that at all. I can't pen anything and everything pens me like butter with gold. Angling only works so far. I have to play it as a support tank. Which only works on city maps. I just do really bad in the IS3. Don't see many around any more.

Prenderb

beauf wrote: »

Is it better than an is3. I can't get to grips with that at all. I can't pen anything and everything pens me like butter with gold. Angling only works so far. I have to play it as a support tank. Which only works on city maps. I just do really bad in the IS3. Don't see many around any more.

IS3 is great tank. Awesome gun and a good bouncy turret. What is different about it, is the lower front plate is easy penetrate, and if you're angling, you're giving the enemy a straight on view of your pike nose armour.

Those tanks need to face the enemy straight on so the angled armour works, and hiding your front lower plate best you can. Don't angle!

Spear

I'm pretty sure the discounts are good until March.

Given that that coincides with the 1.0 release, it seems to imply 1.0 is more of a wiping of the slate in addition to just an engine upgrade.

beauf

Prenderb wrote: »

beauf wrote: »

Is it better than an is3. I can't get to grips with that at all. I can't pen anything and everything pens me like butter with gold. Angling only works so far. I have to play it as a support tank. Which only works on city maps. I just do really bad in the IS3. Don't see many around any more.

IS3 is great tank. Awesome gun and a good bouncy turret. What is different about it, is the lower front plate is easy penetrate, and if you're angling, you're giving the enemy a straight on view of your pike nose armour.

Those tanks need to face the enemy straight on so the angled armour works, and hiding your front lower plate best you can. Don't angle!

I see what you mean about the pike. I'll have to give it another go.

Canis Lupus

beauf wrote: »

I see what you mean about the pike. I'll have to give it another go.

tanks gg is a cracking good website that lets you see armor values on the fly and how angling improves/worsens specific armor. You can even compare a tank vs another of your choice.

Canis Lupus

This 112.... I'm in love.... Armor blocked 2500 dmg. trololo. Average dmg blocked 1600. The only issue is I'm over relying on it a bit and putting myself into stupid situations. Still though, so far today I've had 3 100k plus wins. It must be said that I'm potentially a bit lucky playing on the Australian sea server. I'm getting top tiered a lot and during the day there is a lot of red players.

Canis Lupus

Is the Caernarvon the worst tank in the game? It actually makes me sad trying to grind it. I've had to put up with the Churchill, Churchill 7, Black Prince and now..... now I'm lumbered with this almighty piece of sh*t...... It's stock.... I try to tell myself it will get better but it just makes me want to die.....

beauf

I've just got the tiger II its pretty bad. Ironically I'm getting a lot of spotting damage in it.

The IS3 I've changed how I play. Use it as a heavy medium and drive into people's faces and distract them while my team takes them out.

Spear

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Is the Caernarvon the worst tank in the game? It actually makes me sad trying to grind it. I've had to put up with the Churchill, Churchill 7, Black Prince and now..... now I'm lumbered with this almighty piece of sh*t...... It's stock.... I try to tell myself it will get better but it just makes me want to die.....

It used to be far worse, it's considered pretty strong now once upgraded.

beauf wrote: »

I've just got the tiger II its pretty bad. Ironically I'm getting a lot of spotting damage in it.

The IS3 I've changed how I play. Use it as a heavy medium and drive into people's faces and distract them while my team takes them out.

Time and power creep have not been kind to the Tiger 2. The armour isn't competitive at it's own tier, and worthless against higher tiers. These days it'd be better off at tier 7, and it's telling that the VK45.03 is a tier 7. The E75 is nice, which is the most optimistic thing I can say.

beauf

Had a AMX 75 turn me into swiss cheese frontally

I'd like to play these tanks in historical context...

Spear

beauf wrote: »

Had a AMX 75 turn me into swiss cheese frontally

I'd like to play these tanks in historical context...

They are almost contemporaneous, the Tiger 2 is a late 1943 design, the AMX-13 is a 1946 design. Except in the real world that AMX 13 would be shredded at range where it's little 75mm couldn't do jack to a Tiger 2. But this is WoT, so it's an APCR spamming AMX at point blank instead.

beauf

Is there any conflict where they fought against each other?

Spear

beauf wrote: »

Is there any conflict where they fought against each other?

Nah, no Tiger 2s saw service after WW2, not many were left. Israel used AMX-13s against Syria, which used Panzer 4s and StuG 3s though.

beauf

That's kinda what I meant. War Thunder has historical battles I think. Never played it though. I take your point though.

Canis Lupus

Power creep has wrecked the Tiger 2. When I first played WoT it was such a pain to play against if it had the lower plate covered or was side scraping and I finally got around to grinding it out and it's like driving a tin can, seems to have no survivabilty. Having said that the gun is still reasonable at least in a supporting role.

I'll grind the Caer at least till it's maxed out but nothing carries over from the HT line so you've to work on everything. It's not just slow but has terrible maneuverability, the hull gets penned by anything and the stock gun is a complete disgrace for tier 8.

Greentree_uk

e75 makes it worthwhile. though I did enjoy my time in the tiger 2

beauf

I think I'm having a perverse pleasure in trying to beat the odds in the Tiger II. You just can't push in it at all. Support role only.

I decided not to use my Tiger I crew in it. As that is my go to Tank when I'm doing badly. As it seems to be useful at any tier.

So new crew for the Tiger II. Ah well...

Recently got the Firefly. Loving that. I do much better then the Rev. I think I'm not really up to Tier 8.

Tenger

Spear wrote: »

They are almost contemporaneous, the Tiger 2 is a late 1943 design, the AMX-13 is a 1946 design. Except in the real world that AMX 13 would be shredded at range where it's little 75mm couldn't do jack to a Tiger 2........

Although with the pace of tank evolution at the time those 3 years made a big difference.
The King Tiger was a beast compared to Sherman’s, Cromwell’s, Churchill’s and T-34-85’s. The IS and the Pershing were comparable I think.
Am I right in saying that their is a record of a Pershing going up against a King Tiger


I did like the Historical battles when they were in the game. It added something different and allowed a small glimpse of historical setting.
That was the best opportunity to pit a Tiger, a couple of Panthers and a Tiger 2 against a company of Sherman’s! But WG never went that route.....

Spear

Tenger wrote: »

Although with the pace of tank evolution at the time those 3 years made a big difference.
The King Tiger was a beast compared to Sherman’s, Cromwell’s, Churchill’s and T-34-85’s. The IS and the Pershing were comparable I think.
Am I right in saying that their is a record of a Pershing going up against a King Tiger


I did like the Historical battles when they were in the game. It added something different and allowed a small glimpse of historical setting.
That was the best opportunity to pit a Tiger, a couple of Panthers and a Tiger 2 against a company of Sherman’s! But WG never went that route.....

I don't believe a Pershing ever faced a full King Tiger. There was the T26E4 with extra armour that's often described as facing a King Tiger, but in reality that was almost certainly a Panzer 4, with no King Tigers deployed anywhere near it, and being inflated due to the common US habit of referring to German tanks as Tigers. There weren't that many KTs to begin with and tended to receive prompt aerial attention when sighted. There's famous footage of a Pershing knocking out a Panther at Koln cathedral at least.

Three Pershings were disabled in total, one to arty, one to a plain Tiger 1, and one to a Nashorn.

Tenger

Spear wrote: »

.............. There's famous footage of a Pershing knocking out a Panther at Koln cathedral at least.
........

Ah, that’s the image I had in my head. Just couldn’t recall the German vehicle.

Canis Lupus

What a tomato, side on against a pershing. Uninstall.