New Look RTE News From 26th April.

Elmo

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

Oh, I must make sure that my posts have paragraphs in future posts specially just for you Elmo as I did not set out to be inconsiderate to you or others on here. In your dreams, I'll present my points in my own way and let all others decide but thank you Elmo for your impartial tips anyway

As I say I don't general comment on the appearance of people's post as it rude, sorry and its not like I have great spelling or grammar.

I notice nobody defended RTÉ annual commitment to the Rose of Tralee bi-nightly extravaganza from Tralee or The Late Late Show still trying to do what it it did all those years ago but now in 2014 looks stale and out of touch with the Ireland of recent years but RTÉ wants it both ways (i.e.) positive ratings means advertising and TV Licence Fee revenue so the public service broadcasting element takes a back seat when it suits. Mind you, why was I unfair to RTÉ again? - I'll tell you why..Because they do not really want to have to fulfill their public service mandate but do so reluctantly or go through the motions all too often. They are still hanging on to EastEnders to help prop up Fair City I suspect too.

I don't understand why they have EastEnders, its dreadful but suppose its from the BBC so it must be world class. Rose Of Tralee and Eurovision could both be axed as far as I am concerned.

In relation to the old RTÉ Radio 2 you are right about what the youth wanted to hear in the 1980s especially when the pirate stations across Ireland were shut down by the then Minister for Communications, Deputy Ray Burke TD but RTÉ still had obligations in this regard and again they paid "lip service" at a time when they were coining it because they were the only show in town. If I recall, the those in the Irish Country Music scene were not best pleased with RTÉ Radio 2 either but they just went mainly with the commercial rather than the public service emphasis.

I doubt that Ray Burke did anything selflessly or for RTÉ. Capped the licence fee, reduced RTÉ NL fees, forced to save Ardmore, forced to sell Cablelink to Telecom. Country Music was well served on RTÉ 1 remember the Sandy Kelly Show

TV3 is not there to be a watchdog for RTÉ as some would have you believe. They are there to provide an Irish choice in the Irish marketplace. TV3 have commissioned and showed quite a lot of home-grown social life documentaries in the past 18 months or so which have been interesting and informative for the most part. Of course, they are not high brow documentaries nor do they claim to be as they are aiming at a different demographic and serve it reasonably well although; there is always room for improvement. There is also the Tonight programme running all summer with guest presenters (while Vincent Browne is off but not paid by the taxpayer) who are all well able to chair topical discussions 4 nights a week Monday to Thursday while simultaneously RTÉ cut back on the frequency of current affairs output such fewer PrimeTime editions throughout the Summer months and I imagine The Week in Politics will be off while the Dáil is in recess. TV3 also launched the monthly The People's Debate earlier in the year from the TV3/Sony HD studios which to me is more along the lines of something I would expect RTÉ to be doing as a national public service broadcaster but we all know what happened The Frontline Presidential Debate not to mention what happened as a result of a controversial edition of Prime Time Investigates. TV3 also had MidWeek and other current affairs programme in addition to Ireland AM, Sybil Mulcahy in the morning, Midday with Elaine Crowley, Late Lunch Live with Martin King & Co. and they also have the new quiz called CrossFire hosted by Sean Moncrieff. TV3 will need to improve their news gathering and output hours in addition to their Online news presence but I find Paul Byrne far more natural in his delivery than Pascal Sheehy or others over the years in terms of the Cork scene. I have never found that RTÉ were never very passionate about developing and enhancing broadcasting from those regions outside of Dublin and I suspect that the main reasons RTÉ Cork has been a success is plain and simple - it has more to do with major advances in technology and lower labour costs due to it being outside Dublin all leading to overall lower production and human resources costs at the end of the day.

Have to say when TV3 have to use Xpose's site to announce their own sporting news it shows how their online presence is seriously lacking. I'd agree I really don't understand the August Holiday that RTÉ News & CA take.

I found the people's debate tiresome, 2 hours was 2 long, the could have hired a few Boards.ie mods.

Again the docs are for some and not for other like most TV, some are even funded by the Licence Fee, often the better ones.

No mention of TV3's Anglo Loan and how the taxpayer help to refinance the loan twice.

TV3 is there to compete with RTÉ and provide choice to the audience.

Onthe3rdDay

Getting the thread back on Track. I notice that RTE News at One has now gone back to 10 minutes for August and also moved into their tiny second News studio with that awful desk.
Obviously that bulletin is then repeated again and again on RTE NEWS NOW

Would RTE News Now Not be better off mixing their very short news bulletins with programmes from International News broadcasters? Obviously BBC World would be great, but If they didn't want to use them, there's DW from Germany or indeed several News shows they could get from Canada or Australia.

lertsnim

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

Would RTE News Now Not be better off mixing their very short news bulletins with programmes from International News broadcasters? Obviously BBC World would be great, but If they didn't want to use them, there's DW from Germany or indeed several News shows they could get from Canada or Australia.

I agree. A bit like the digital only radio channel they have that takes news shows from all over the world.

Sam Russell

They could have EuroNews wich is free for EBU members, and could use France24, I would think.

brick man

I Tweeted the Editor of RTE NEWS NOW to know if it was changing its look to bring it into line with RTE News output and any plans for more of a schedule to it and reply was ;

We hope to have overhaul completed before end of the year. Future schedule is resource and finance dependent.

Elmo

brick man wrote: »

I Tweeted the Editor of RTE NEWS NOW to know if it was changing its look to bring it into line with RTE News output and any plans for more of a schedule to it and reply was ;

We hope to have overhaul completed before end of the year. Future schedule is resource and finance dependent.

Now you understand why we don't necessarily believe everything anyone in broadcasting ever says.

Translation: - We didn't really think about RTÉ News Now but now that you say it, suppose we might take a look at it before the end of the year. As for the schedule well its not like TV scheduling dept have anything to do with RTÉ News Now and really why should they!

See 240 characters are not enough. Expect the change maybe this time next year.

Elmo

Well surprisingly RTÉ News Now met a deadline.



Though they still don't get it.

channelsurfer2

It looks like a service that has a severe lack of investment and is only there because they cant do a full news service. It will probably never be a full service due to the commercial sector pressures on the BAI etc ensuring that its starved of funds and development.

icdg

We don't drag up old threads. Particularly when a new one has been started