Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid (Second Leg) (Allianz Arena) KO: 7:45PM (ITV1 + TV3)

Kerrydude1981

Watching on ITV

Tap tap tap tap tap tap tap going on in the back ground

Andersonisgod

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Oh okay, Guardiolaball still works, it's just that Barcelona forgot how to defend after 2011 and Bayern forgot same in the space of a year. And Span didn't fancy the Confederations Cup. Got it.

Have you considered the concept of time? You know, time goes by, age, wear and tear and all that. Perhaps the purveyors of the beautiful game are a little older and have lost a step? Perhaps it isn't the philosophy but the purveyors of the philosophy that could need to be changed eventually. Also perhaps the problem with Bayern at the moment is that it is difficult to beat the best sides with a style of football that you have been endeavoring to learn for less than a year that has taken others their lifetime up to now to learn it. I suppose you don't ask the question "why" a lot, do you?

Son Of A Vidic

Agueroooo wrote: »

Love him or hate him ..Pepe is an immense CB.

MOTM for me tonight.

Moneymaker

I said last week that Barca 2008-2011 was lightning in a bottle, you had great players, one of the greatest player of all time in Messi. Iniesta in his prime, Xavi in his prime, Alves, Puyol etc. Pique's form was still good.

Something thats overlooked though is that Barca side had a solid spine. You had Puyol at his peak, under-rated players like Abidal and Keita(Keita played every single away leg in the CL for many years, good reason for that) that gave them solidity and some steel. They haven't been adequately replaced either.

When they defeated Real 5-0 in 2010 that was as close to football perfection as I have ever seen. It's simply not something that can be replicated. Opposition teams have become better at countering it, players have gotten older etc etc.

Pep's issue is a refusal to adapt. Inter beat them, Chelsea beat them, Bayern did it and now Real have(and did in 2012 too).

He needs to learn from this and vary his style.

Professional Griefer

RONALDO!!!

Barr

lol

Teehee.

Mushy

Love that sort of free kick!

kryogen

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Have you considered the concept of time? You know, time goes by, age, wear and tear and all that. Perhaps the purveyors of the beautiful game are a little older and have lost a step? Perhaps it isn't the philosophy but the purveyors of the philosophy that could need to be changed eventually. Also perhaps the problem with Bayern at the moment is that it is difficult to beat the best sides with a style of football that you have been endeavoring to learn for less than a year that has taken others their lifetime up to now to learn it. I suppose you don't ask the question "why" a lot, do you?

I was gonna reply to this but Ronaldo just did that instead

GET THE **** IN THERE !

So clever!

Crackle

Class

LuckyLloyd

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Have you considered the concept of time? You know, time goes by, age, wear and tear and all that. Perhaps the purveyors of the beautiful game are a little older and have lost a step? Perhaps it isn't the philosophy but the purveyors of the philosophy that could need to be changed eventually. Also perhaps the problem with Bayern at the moment is that it is difficult to beat the best sides with a style of football that you have been endeavoring to learn for less than a year that has taken others their lifetime up to now to learn it. I suppose you don't ask the question "why" a lot, do you?

That's a fairly beautiful statement from someone failing to ask "why" a coach would try and change the tactical approach of the treble winners from last season, lol.

Amirani

Massacre.

Mars Bar

Boom

How many free kicks blasted over the bar before he tried that cheeky one?

Agent Coulson

haha

Washington Irving

Delightful result.

hullaballoo

Jesus, that's something else from Ronaldo.

LuckyLloyd

The cherry on top.

Lord TSC

Beautiful

John Cherry

What a player,what a man. He is just a joy to watch.

bad2dabone

I'm so so so soooo happy

Especially for Neuer.

Son Of A Vidic

Genius Ronaldo, ye jump and I'll put it under.

bantee

"He's meant that".
You don't say Townsend

mike65

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Watching on ITV

Tap tap tap tap tap tap tap going on in the back ground

Bloody Greta Garbo!

WallyGUFC

As a United fan, if both managers were available, I wouldn't have Guardiola near the club ever. Tika-taka is boring to watch. Give me the excitement of Real tonight, or United of old, over this pass pass pass repeat any day. Luckily for Guardiola, he's young and has time to adapt his style, and he will really have to. You don't win a game on the possession stats. Bayern have dominated possession tonight and are 4-0 down. Real have created all of the chances and have been truly clinical. That, to me, is exciting football.

Montroseee

Ronaldo=Barca Killer

Seaneh

Who's next?

Barr

Great result

LuckyLloyd

WallyGUFC wrote: »

As a United fan, if both managers were available, I wouldn't have Guardiola near the club ever. Tika-taka is boring to watch. Give me the excitement of Real tonight, or United of old, over this pass pass pass repeat any day. Luckily for Guardiola, he's young and has time to adapt his style, and he will really have to. You don't win a game on the possession stats. Bayern have dominated possession tonight and are 4-0 down. Real have created all of the chances and have been truly clinical. That, to me, is exciting football.

Spot on.

Professional Griefer

Too Tough To Die

WallyGUFC wrote: »

As a United fan, if both managers were available, I wouldn't have Guardiola near the club ever. Tika-taka is boring to watch. Give me the excitement of Real tonight, or United of old, over this pass pass pass repeat any day. Luckily for Guardiola, he's young and has time to adapt his style, and he will really have to. You don't win a game on the possession stats. Bayern have dominated possession tonight and are 4-0 down. Real have created all of the chances and have been truly clinical. That, to me, is exciting football.

Style was irrelevant when they went two nil down, which had little to do with style and everything to do with defending like mongs. Shame really, because this could've been a really interesting clash.

Fudge You

Montroseee wrote: »

Ronaldo=Barca Killer

Barca were not playing tonight. It was bayern Munich against Madrid

Oat23

WallyGUFC wrote: »

As a United fan, if both managers were available, I wouldn't have Guardiola near the club ever. Tika-taka is boring to watch. Give me the excitement of Real tonight, or United of old, over this pass pass pass repeat any day. Luckily for Guardiola, he's young and has time to adapt his style, and he will really have to. You don't win a game on the possession stats. Bayern have dominated possession tonight and are 4-0 down. Real have created all of the chances and have been truly clinical. That, to me, is exciting football.

I'm sure they'd prefer to manage a top 4 team anyway.

kryogen

That is what you call a hiding!

Unheard of for Bayern to lose at the Allianz let alone get absolutely bitchslapped off the pitch.

Out classed, out though and out fought

Congrats Madrid

John Cherry

Come on Athletico.Would love to see a all Madrid final.

Moneymaker

How much longer is AIG going to defend the indefensible?

The signs have been there for 2-3 years now.

shamrock55

WallyGUFC wrote: »

As a United fan, if both managers were available, I wouldn't have Guardiola near the club ever. Tika-taka is boring to watch. Give me the excitement of Real tonight, or United of old, over this pass pass pass repeat any day. Luckily for Guardiola, he's young and has time to adapt his style, and he will really have to. You don't win a game on the possession stats. Bayern have dominated possession tonight and are 4-0 down. Real have created all of the chances and have been truly clinical. That, to me, is exciting football.

You would be lucky to get ian dowie never mind pep

bad2dabone

in 37 years of European Cup it was defended 13 times. in 22 years of CL it's been defended 0 times.

NIMAN

Their defence was found out tonight, and funnily enough the often ridiculed Madrid defence looked very strong.

Leaving the tiki taka debate to one side for a moment i will say that Bayern looked vulnerable against both ourselves and Man United this season. And then there was the lucky win over Chelsea in the supercup.

Unlike last year i was less then convinced with them. Last year they went straight for the throat. In all fairness the likes of Toni Kroos should be starting every game but it would seem he is not a Guardiola type of player.

Andersonisgod

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

That's a fairly beautiful statement from someone failing to ask "why" a coach would try and change the tactical approach of the treble winners from last season, lol.

Why do Bayern want to change the style? Afterall everyone knows what Pep is about.

His team were poor tonight, they didn't do it in Madrid, transferring that trademark style to a different club, to a different culture is obviously not easy. It may take time, you'd imagine a manager as brilliant as Pep has learnt a lot about his players and what this squad needs next season.

Too Tough To Die

A bitter taste of defeat before heading in to the World Cup where expectations are high for the German players.

Skylinehead

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Pep has learnt a lot about his players and what this squad needs next season.

Jupp Heynckes would be nice :pac:

Lofty123

WallyGUFC wrote: »

As a United fan, if both managers were available, I wouldn't have Guardiola near the club ever. Tika-taka is boring to watch. Give me the excitement of Real tonight, or United of old, over this pass pass pass repeat any day. Luckily for Guardiola, he's young and has time to adapt his style, and he will really have to. You don't win a game on the possession stats. Bayern have dominated possession tonight and are 4-0 down. Real have created all of the chances and have been truly clinical. That, to me, is exciting football.

+1

wotzgoingon

Great free kick by Ronaldo near the end.

klose

Very entertaining game that.

Moneymaker

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Why do Bayern want to change the style? Afterall everyone knows what Pep is about.

His team were poor tonight, they didn't do it in Madrid, transferring that trademark style to a different club, to a different culture is obviously not easy. It may take time, you'd imagine a manager as brilliant as Pep has learnt a lot about his players and what this squad needs next season.

Not playing Javi Martinez was absurd for a start. He's just the player you want in a game like this.

It might be a good idea to learn how to organise a defence too. It was Barca's main weakness and again tonight it's been exposed.

adox

Slightly OT but did some call the Ajax team of the 70s the original tika taka team? That's an insult to them. It was called "total football" where they do try to pass the ball as much as possible(yes believe it or not that is not exclusive to tika taka) and interchanged positions but played with a purpose and variance that had a cutting edge and wasn't passing just for the sake of it.

A bit galling that some on here think that the passing game is exclusive to tika taka. It's not. It's just passing taken to the extreme IMO.

castletownman

A massacre, a rout. La Decima is on. The Los Merengues give an exhibition of clincial, powerful football that puts Guardiolaball to the sword. Led by the genius from the small island of Madeira, and helped along the way by two goals from Ramos, a man central to Spain's all conquering side that have won three major international tournaments on the trot. All bow to Ancelotti and his tactical genius. Hala Madrid!

Montroseee

Fudge You wrote: »

Barca were not playing tonight. It was bayern Munich against Madrid

He's killing the tika taka footballing philsophy that originated at Barca and has now been wrongly thrust upon a side it shouldn't.

LuckyLloyd

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Why do Bayern want to change the style? Afterall everyone knows what Pep is about.

His team were poor tonight, they didn't do it in Madrid, transferring that trademark style to a different club, to a different culture is obviously not easy. It may take time, you'd imagine a manager as brilliant as Pep has learnt a lot about his players and what this squad needs next season.

What they need is their manager from last season tbh.