breaking: Gerry Adams Arrested in connection to McConville - MOD WARNING First Post

Happyman42

twowheelsgood wrote: »

Really? So what do you suppose Danny boy had in mind when he talked about “taking power in Ireland”?

He had in mind fighting elections whilst continuing the war against British Forces.
The dual strategy of taking power by the ballot box and removing British rule from NI.
Fairly typical that you would take that as a declaration of war on Dublin.
There was NO such declaration and NO such threat.
Your understanding of history needs a bit more complexity.

Santa Cruz

end of the road wrote: »

nonsense, wrong, the IRA never wanted to overthrow the state, they wanted removal of british rule in NI, or at least, equality for all citizens of NI, section 31 was speciffically to silence these people from exposing the wrong doings of britain in the north as the irish government were afraid that should the truth come out and people saw britain for what it was it could have lead to protests in the south, and that such audio could have leaked to the BBC causing the british to see the military for what it was, causing issues there and possibly causing britain to invade the south in revenge for exposing of wrong doings by the army

You Sir do not have a clue. "wanted removal of British rule or at least equality for all citizens of NI"

Where did you learn such gibberish?
Haven't you heard of the Democratic Socialist Republic policy or any of the other ****e they spout.

Funnily enough they never said anything about entering Stormont or helping Paisley to become First Minister

Happyman42

Gatling wrote: »

Does anybody honestly believe if the IRA achieved there victory of removing all things British( army ,ruc,government,) from the north they would stop there ,

Too early to say. :cool:

RandomName2

Karl Stein wrote: »

Like pulling teeth this is.



Where?



Where?



Where?



Where?

See, you're being lazy not taking my individual points and countering them - I'm not a mind reader. Now if you'd just taken the original post and broken it up, countered, refuted, asked for clarification you wouldn't have wasted all this time.

Stop being lazy.

You don't have individual points. Your three paragraphs have one point. I would have thought you would have known that, as it was something which you apparently wrote. I am aware you don't like debate but....

So in case you need a reminder of what you wrote, see below:

Karl Stein wrote: »

[Repost with a little editing]

In 1966 the 50 year anniversary of the Easter Rising ('good' Republicanism/Nationalism) was celebrated with gusto by the Irish state and Irish people. In 1976 the 60th anniversary wasn't. The rise of the 'bad' sort of Republicanism in the north and south had given the establishment the ****s so a concerted and somewhat successful campaign to cleanse the public consciousness of Republicanism/Nationalism was carried out not unlike the paranoid McCarthyism of the US in the 50's.

A 'chilling effect' atmosphere was fostered by those in power. Academics, intellectuals, journalists and commentators critical of British and Unionist terrorism in the north were viewed as a threat to the establishment and so were expunged from the public consciousness (see Connor Cruise O'Brien and Section 31). The Myers', CCO'B's, and Dudley Edwards' of the world had the public consciousness to themselves and embarked on a campaign to stigmatise all things Nat/Rep, downplay British terrorism that gave rise to militant Republicanism and this worked its way into revising the history of British Rule in Ireland.

So when we hear our resident Cruisermaniacs call the Nationalist/Republican interpretation of historic events in Ireland 'revisionism' what we're hearing is a cacophony of revisionists who are blissfully unaware that revisionism is exactly what they're dimwittedly engaging in.

pO1Neil

ryan101 wrote: »

they killed far more civilians than they did military or police personnel. I can't believe someone living today does not know this. Shocking really.

Well for a start that's a blatant lie.

They killed just over 650 civilians in 27 years & killed just under 2000 people altogether now you work that one out.

If they wanted to have killed civilians they could have killed a lot more & not bothered with warnings.

And I would have proudly joined the IRA if I was alive in the 70's or old enough in the 80's or 90's.

crusher000

Gerry Adams is free folks where are all the posters that were on earlier that wanted him convicted without a trial as they all had evidence of him being a guitly man.

bumper234

crusher000 wrote: »

Gerry Adams is free folks where are all the posters that were on earlier that wanted him convicted without a trial as they all had evidence of him being a guitly man.

Who said this?

crusher000

I haven't the time to quote all the posters that were on here that said he was guilty. Thanks bumper234.

crusher000

Here's one.

if he had gone to jail for this murder he would have been out long ago under terms of GFA away - best forget about it and move on - waste of time with a trial now - he should just say he killed her and move on

raymann

some of the people in this thread.... i really wonder the age of a lot of the more aggressive posters in this thread.

bumper234

crusher000 wrote: »

I haven't the time to quote all the posters that were on here that said he was guilty. Thanks bumper234.

Just post one or two then because as far as i remember i don't recall anyone saying they "wanted him convicted without a trial as they all had evidence of him being a guitly man."

bumper234

crusher000 wrote: »

Here's one.

if he had gone to jail for this murder he would have been out long ago under terms of GFA away - best forget about it and move on - waste of time with a trial now - he should just say he killed her and move on

That's hardly saying they wanted him convicted without a trial as they all had evidence of him being a guitly man.

Spring Onion

I have an issue with beards and moustaches. Weird I know but I tend not to trust people that have either (or both). I always feel they have something to hide.
Adams comes across to me as the most untrustworthy person I know.
Maybe he should shave?

timtime

bumper234 wrote: »

*sigh*

Jean McConville was murdered in cold blood, anyone who had any hand in her murder (no matter who they are) should be arrested, tried and jailed.

The victims of the Ballymurphy massacre were murdered in cold blood, anyone who had any hand in those murders (no matter who they are) should be arrested, tried and jailed.

The victims of the La Mon restaurant firebombing were murdered in cold blood, anyone who had any hand in those murders (no matter who they are) should be arrested, tried and jailed.

The victims of Bloody Sunday were murdered in cold blood, anyone who had any hand in those murders (no matter who they are) should be arrested, tried and jailed.

Would you like me to list each and every heinous crime with the above or will that suffice to point out that i treat all murders the same? fWIW no matter what my job was in the past i have not tried to justify the murder of innocent civilians or tried to blame the police for not acting quick enough. If there is evidence of a crime then the person (whoever they are) should be arrested, tried and if found guilty....locked away like any common criminal!

what would you do with Blair and Bush, hang them high?

Sunnyisland

Spring Onion wrote: »

I have an issue with beards and moustaches. Weird I know but I tend not to trust people that have either (or both). I always feel they have something to hide.
Adams comes across to me as the most untrustworthy person I know.
Maybe he should shave?

Maybe you should see a beard councillor, and a travel tip stay out of Muslim countries, there's beards everywhere :-)

bumper234

timtime wrote: »

what would you do with Blair and Bush, hang them high?

If they are guilty of a crime (i believe they are) then they should be arrested, tried and if found guilty they should be punished. Did you think i was going to say let them go?

Spring Onion

realies wrote: »

Maybe you should see a beard councillor, and a travel tip stay out of Muslim countries, there's beards everywhere :-)

can they be trusted?

timtime

bumper234 wrote: »

If they are guilty of a crime (i believe they are) then they should be arrested, tried and if found guilty they should be punished. Did you think i was going to say let them go?

but they wont be arrested and jailed, so on that basis neither should GA fairness and equality and all that

Fratton Fred

timtime wrote: »

but they wont be arrested and jailed, so on that basis neither should GA fairness and equality and all that

Seriously?

timtime

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Seriously?

who is goin to arrest them for war.crimes?

Fratton Fred

timtime wrote: »

who is goin to arrest them for war.crimes?

By your logic then, I want those three points removed from my licence. Fairs fair after all.

The Diabolical Monocle

Call for MOD to close this thread.

Gerry walked. Game over.

Since then the thread has served only as a broken record of NI history, a tribal pissing contest and on occasion a circle jerk.

Gatling

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Call for MOD to close this thread.

Are you going to repost this in the several other threads regarding GA

Seaneh

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Call for MOD to close this thread.

Gerry walked. Game over.

Since then the thread has served only as a broken record of NI history, a tribal pissing contest and on occasion a circle jerk.

Seconded.
Pissing contest at this stage.

bumper234

timtime wrote: »

but they wont be arrested and jailed, so on that basis neither should GA fairness and equality and all that

Says you.

GA was arrested almost 40 years after his alleged crimes so what's to say Bush/Blair won't be arrested and charged in the future?

The Diabolical Monocle

Gatling wrote: »

Are you going to repost this in the several other threads regarding GA

Why the fvck would I, am I the dept of G.Adams threads now.

Seaneh

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Why the fvck would I, am I the dept of G.Adams threads now.

Anyone who disagrees with the narrative a small subset of anti-republican posters tries to dictate is labelled a "shinnerbot" or "IRA Fanboy" in an attempt to undermine their points.
It's sad really.

keeponhurling

Gatling wrote: »

Does anybody honestly believe if the IRA achieved there victory of removing all things British( army ,ruc,government,) from the north they would stop there ,

I'm not sure what you have in mind here.

Would they make a move for the Isle of Man? Grab a bit of Cornwall maybe?

crusher000

Gatling wrote: »

In Adams case I'll personally believe he's Guilty till proven otherwise

Hi bumper234.

Paramite Pie

Gatling wrote: »

Does anybody honestly believe if the IRA achieved there victory of removing all things British( army ,ruc,government,) from the north they would stop there ,

They would go back to dealing drugs and organized crime.

Or maybe if the Scottish referendum fails they would attempt to "liberate" Scotland?:pac: