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    #842
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    If a dog attacks your child and you do 'nothing'...what is your doing 'nothing allowing the dog to do?
    In real life you are participating (passively, but participating just the same) in the butchery of your child.
    A ridiculous comparison, a more accurate comparison would be not stepping in when two dogs that don't belong to you decide to rip holes in one another.


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    #843
    porsche959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    It's the partitionists and the hysterical that are on the wane.

    It's almost as though they actually long for the dark days of violence to return in order to vindicate their twisted prejudice against nationalists. It's a strange psychosis they suffer from.


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    #844
    Barely There
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    Sound of Silence wrote: »
    You can take comfort in the fact that you don't involve yourself in 'Whataboutery'.

    In fact, most of your posts seem to lack any substance at all! We could replace you with a bot spamming the words 'Shinnerbot' and 'Whataboutery' and nobody would notice.

    I actually feel a little bit sorry for you.
    That's your best riposte?

    excuse me, I'm off to cry myself to sleep - you really hurt my feelings :pac:


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    #845
    Happyman42
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    A ridiculous comparison, a more accurate comparison would be not stepping in when two dogs that don't belong to you decide to rip holes in one another.

    By allowing them to do it and you have the power to stop it, then you are participating. Try again.


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    #846
    Sound of Silence
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    I just ignored it, that's the best thing to do when someone tries to derail things like that.

    It was a pretty valid point.

    You claimed that the moral high ground could only be occupied by those who had never involved themselves with or supported murder in Northern Ireland. Yet a couple of posts back you were comparing the number of civilians killed by each of the players, as if it somehow offered one side more respectability than the other.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90196014&postcount=726

    I'm sure I'm not the only person struggling to understand what your actual position is. It seems you're a pacifist when it suits.


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    #847
    Happyman42
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    porsche959 wrote: »
    It's almost as though they actually long for the dark days of violence to return in order to vindicate their twisted prejudice against nationalists. It's a strange psychosis they suffer from.

    They don't know what they want, and never did. They seem to get off on condemnation though.


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    #848
    Iwasfrozen
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    By allowing them to do it and you have the power to stop it, then you are participating. Try again.
    I no more have power to stop two dogs fighting than I do to stop two paramilitaries blowing each other up.


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    #849
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Doing nothing while others are murdering your kids is little other than being a ****ing first-class coward.

    Enable thine enemy by sitting on your hands while they do their evil deeds?

    Never.


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    #850
    Sound of Silence
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    Barely There wrote: »
    I actually feel a little bit sorry for you.
    That's your best riposte?

    excuse me, I'm off to cry myself to sleep - you really hurt my feelings :pac:

    Well, if your response is to go cry yourself to sleep, I think it was pretty successful.

    Good night, pet.


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    #851
    Stained Class
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    porsche959 wrote: »
    In your dreams! Nothing's going to happen. NI secretary is already making noises about dangers of disrupting peace process.

    Ah yes. If the Shinbots don't get what they want, they'll 'let the boys loose again'.

    They haven't gone away you know.:rolleyes:


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    #852
    Friend Computer
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    If a dog attacks your child and you do 'nothing'...what is your doing 'nothing allowing the dog to do?
    In real life you are participating (passively, but participating just the same) in the butchery of your child.

    The only butchery going on here is of the English language. You can't just make up new meanings for words and expect people to take you seriously.


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    #853
    Barely There
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    Happyman42 wrote: »
    By allowing them to do it and you have the power to stop it, then you are participating. Try again.

    The two dogs are a danger to society.
    Best if they rip each other's throats out.


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    #854
    Bongalongherb
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    Stained Class wrote: »
    del, you're overestimating the brainpower of you're average Shinbot.

    I know they're scum. You know they're scum.

    Still. People will vote for them & support them.

    Also, in fairness, the people who've been running this country have a lot to answer for too...& the electorate want/need to have something new to believe in.

    Enter Shinbot.

    My little hatchling, you have got to understand the reality, that Sinn Féin have done a serious amount of work for peace do you not think. Calling Sinn Féin scum is... in my opinion, an uneducated remark from a person that sees through a very foggy window. Maybe it's time to wipe the window clean for clarity.


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    #855
    Stained Class
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    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    My little hatchling, you have got to understand the reality, that Sinn Féin have done a serious amount of work for peace do you not think. Calling Sinn Féin scum is... in my opinion, an uneducated remark from a person that sees through a very foggy window. Maybe it's time to wipe the window clean for clarity.


    Maybe it's time you grew a brain for yourself.


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    #856
    CiDeRmAn
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    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    My little hatchling, you have got to understand the reality, that Sinn Féin have done a serious amount of work for peace do you not think. Calling Sinn Féin scum is... in my opinion, an uneducated remark from a person that sees through a very foggy window. Maybe it's time to wipe the window clean for clarity.

    This post really should be tested for unintentional irony, the levels are way too high.


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    #857
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Stained Class wrote: »
    Maybe it's time you grew a brain for yourself.

    Attack the post, not the poster. Even I read the charter. Be nice, if you don't agree, just say so, no point in personal attack my dear friend.


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    #858
    Bongalongherb
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    This post really should be tested for unintentional irony, the levels are way too high.

    Just because it might seem high to you, it is quite possible that it is the truth.


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    #859
    dark crystal
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Honestly, this won't be popular, but Nationalism and Patriotism is a sickness, it poisons instead of empowers people, enhances division and should be consigned to history with embarrassment that we were ever so foolish to worship a flag.

    And isn't it grand to live in a country where you have the freedom to denigrate nationalism and patriotism?

    Terrible wrongs were done to innocent people on both sides of the conflict, but when is it time to move on? Do we want the next generation to be as hate filled as some of this generation?

    There may be some members of Sinn Fein who were, at one time or another, involved in the IRA, but there are many more who were not and wish to do their best to move on. Unfortunately, they all get tarred with the same brush as those who went before them and even now, you watch as the Taoiseach sneers and finger points whenever they attempt to ask a question about any subject on behalf of the people they represent and were democratically elected by. This thread just seems to be a microcosm of that whole attitude.

    If we never move on, the cycle just perpetuates and the hostility passes to the next generation and then you have to ask yourself, what on earth was the peace process for in the first place?


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    #860
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    rockbeast wrote: »
    Why?

    As I stated previously stated in this thread, a contrarian opinion is the vital element of a democracy....

    I'm being a contrarian.

    Suck it up.

    If your vote is worthy then your candidate will ascend to a position of influence...

    That's the voting system, dude.

    I don't care who you vote for man. I would just have thought you would have a better reason for popping your voting cherry than voting for a party of unsavoury chancers who oppose government policy without putting forward any alternatives themselves. It surely must not take much intellect to see through that strategy? Although it's naive "contrarians" like yourself that they are targeting so well, so they deserve some credit for that.


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    #861
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    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    Attack the post, not the poster. Even I read the charter. Be nice, if you don't agree, just say so, no point in personal attack my dear friend.

    Well 'friend' I was just giving you a little good advise for your good self.

    Run along now with your fellow travellers 'friend'.

    Never ever try to patronise me with your 'my little hatchling' sh1t ever again!


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    #862
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    My little hatchling, you have got to understand the reality, that Sinn Féin have done a serious amount of work for peace do you not think. Calling Sinn Féin scum is... in my opinion, an uneducated remark from a person that sees through a very foggy window. Maybe it's time to wipe the window clean for clarity.

    Arf :rolleyes:


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    #863
    Happyman42
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    Friend Computer wrote: »
    The only butchery going on here is of the English language. You can't just make up new meanings for words and expect people to take you seriously.

    People who 'do nothing' in a time of crisis are generally consumed by guilt when the consequences hit home. Normal people that is.
    High moral grounders are neither normal nor plentiful, thankfully and most people see the imperatives that those in a crisis are faced with and can emphatise.
    Sinn Fein calls those people their electorate and it is growing across the island. No myth there!


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    #864
    Barely There
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    And isn't it grand to live in a country where you have the freedom to denigrate nationalism and patriotism?

    Terrible wrongs were done to innocent people on both sides of the conflict, but when is it time to move on? Do we want the next generation to be as hate filled as some of this .
    There may be some members of Sinn Fein who were, at one time or another, involved in the IRA, but there are many more who were not and wish to do their best to move on. Unfortunately, they all get tarred with the same brush as those who went before them and even now, you watch as the Taoiseach sneers and finger points whenever they attempt to ask a question about any subject on behalf of the people they represent and were democratically elected by. This thread just seems to be a microcosm of that whole attitude.

    If we never move on, the cycle just perpetuates and the hostility passes to the next generation and then you have to ask yourself, what on earth was the peace process for in the first place?

    They've chosen to lie down with dogs.


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    #865
    dark crystal
    Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Barely There wrote: »
    They've chosen to lie down with dogs.

    So, we should never move on from the past? Ever?


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    #866
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    So, we should never move on from the past? Ever?

    There are other options.

    Why row behind Gerry & the IRA?


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    #867
    Stained Class
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    So, we should never move on from the past? Ever?

    There are other options.

    Why row behind Gerry & the IRA?


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    #868
    Bongalongherb
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    Stained Class wrote: »
    Well 'friend' I was just giving you a little good advise for your good self.

    Run along now with your fellow travellers 'friend'.

    Never ever try to patronise me with your 'my little hatchling' sh1t ever again!

    Fellow travellers I would assume to be Sinn Féin ? am I correct.

    Anyway, the war for independence was a long time ago, and is the far past. I always give them a vote, but I have a certain independent that gets my No.1 vote (not FF nor FG or Labour - or even Sinn Féin) The past will be brought up for many decades to come by opposition TD's and politicians in a war against Sinn Féin, so it will go on and on with some people.

    The amount of crap on this thread from some commenter's is amusing to say the least, they attack without knowledge on the subject, or maybe entered this world recently without the history education.


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    #869
    Barely There
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    So, we should never move on from the past? Ever?

    I hate the **** they stand for right now.


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    #870
    Happyman42
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    Barely There wrote: »
    I hate

    There was me thinking you had a reasoned political standpoint. Silly me. :rolleyes:


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    #871
    Karl Stein
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    Barely There wrote: »
    I hate the **** they stand for right now.

    You should get a life outside hating SF, hating SF is really rather neurotic.


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