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breaking: Gerry Adams Arrested in connection to McConville - MOD WARNING First Post

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    #92
    Stheno
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    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    I dont agree with her murder but how do we know she didnt pass on information? civilians at the time were aware of the consequence of being a tout.

    And that made it fine to leave ten children orphans, and waiting many many years to bury their mother?


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    #93
    Fred Swanson
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    This post has been deleted.


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    #94
    Barely There
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    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    I dont agree with her murder but how do we know she didnt pass on information? civilians at the time were aware of the consequence of being a tout.

    Nah - you're just an apologist for it I guess.

    Glad I'm not you.


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    #95
    .jacksparrow.
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    Clandestine wrote: »
    I mean, damn. This wasn't like a shooting of a rival paramilitary group member. This was an "innocent" woman with kids. They can't spin it in their favor in any way

    As was this woman

    Taoiseach Enda Kenny expressed ‘disappointment’ at Northern Secretary Theresa Villiers decision to reject a call for the creation of an independent panel to investigate the Ballymurphy killings in west Belfast in 1971 which resulted in 11 deaths.

    A mother of eight children was among those shot dead by British Army Paratroopers.

    Expressing 'disappointment' is hardly what is required from the Irish Taoiseach. This is the fundamental reason why Sinn Fein garners so much support from northern Nationalists. When it comes to campaigning for victims of British State murder, southern parties have always remained silent. It is this very silence that will lead to their downfall since neither the southern nor northern justice systems can ever accommodate for nationalist victims of the troubles.


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    #96
    efb
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    Will Pearse and Ferris throw him a party when he's released?


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    #97
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Tramps Like Us wrote: »
    At the very max he could spend two years. But its unlikely it will get that far imo.

    two years for a brutal murder of a mother of 9 kids?


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    #98
    Tramps Like Us
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    Stheno wrote: »
    And that made it fine to leave ten children orphans, and waiting many many years to bury their mother?
    WHy dont you mention that at least one of her kids was in the IRA and was in Long Kesh when his mother was killed?

    Doesnt quite fit the picture you're trying to paint does it?


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    #99
    kumate_champ07
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    Barely There wrote: »
    Perfect timing for the local elections!

    Great that people get a reminder of the kind of scummy murderous behaviour the Shinners/IRA got up to!
    all of them, ye?


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    #100
    bumper234
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    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    I dont agree with her murder but how do we know she didnt pass on information? civilians at the time were aware of the consequence of being a tout.

    And terrorists knew the consequences of committing murder.


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    #101
    Barely There
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    .jacksparrow. wrote: »
    As was this woman

    Taoiseach Enda Kenny expressed ‘disappointment’ at Northern Secretary Theresa Villiers decision to reject a call for the creation of an independent panel to investigate the Ballymurphy killings in west Belfast in 1971 which resulted in 11 deaths.

    A mother of eight children was among those shot dead by British Army Paratroopers.

    Expressing 'disappointment' is hardly what is required from the Irish Taoiseach. This is the fundamental reason why Sinn Fein garners so much support from northern Nationalists. When it comes to campaigning for victims of British State murder, southern parties have always remained silent. It is this very silence that will lead to their downfall since neither the southern nor northern justice systems can ever accommodate for nationalist victims of the troubles.


    Oh dear!

    The murder apologists have arrived.


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    #102
    Foxhound38
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    Tramps Like Us wrote: »
    Obviously politically motivated timing. Been arrested before, hopefully he won't be beaten and tortured this time.

    Indeed. A trial would do just fine.


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    #103
    Tramps Like Us
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    two years for a brutal murder of a mother of 9 kids?
    Under the GFA all he or anyone else convicted of terrorist charges will serve is two years. The judge would formally sentence someone convicted of murder to life or whatever but 2 years is all theyd serve.

    Personally I do not believe Adams was involved in the killing.


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    #104
    tomwaterford
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    Barely There wrote: »
    Nah - you're just an apologist for it I guess.

    Glad I'm not you.

    no apologises necessary if was an informer....if you good enough to do it....they must accept the punishment that comes about when your found out

    remember passing info to british army that was its worst conduct in NI at the time-1972


    *same geos for those killing said informers


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    #105
    kumate_champ07
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    Stheno wrote: »
    And that made it fine to leave ten children orphans, and waiting many many years to bury their mother?

    I already said I dont aggree. murder isnt 'fine'.

    Im also not a Sinn Fein supporter, but I dont hate them like some posters here


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    #106
    wazky
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    two years for a brutal murder of a mother of 9 kids?

    Whatever about the rest, but I don't think he was one pulling the trigger.


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    #107
    Joe Duffy..
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    Can't wait to get him on the Liveline...


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    #108
    My name is URL
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    efb wrote: »
    Will Pearse and Ferris throw him a party when he's released?

    Released without charge..?... why not?

    Will you throw a Gay Pride march if he's sentenced to life?


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    #109
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Tramps Like Us wrote: »
    Under the GFA all he or anyone else convicted of terrorist charges will serve is two years. The judge would formally sentence someone convicted of murder to life or whatever but 2 years is all theyd serve.

    Personally I do not believe Adams was involved in the killing.

    the pyscopathic murderers on both sides did very well in that deal


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    tomwaterford
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    two years for a brutal murder of a mother of 9 kids?

    well like it was in the GFA


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    bumper234
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    no apologises necessary if was an informer....if you good enough to do it....they must accept the punishment that comes about when your found out

    remember passing info to british army that was its worst conduct in NI at the time-1972


    *same geos for those killing said informers

    So going by your rules.

    If it turns out that Adams is a murderer then he should get life in prison?


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    #112
    Barely There
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    no apologises necessary if was an informer....if you good enough to do it....they must accept the punishment that comes about when your found out

    remember passing info to british army that was its worst conduct in NI at the time-1972


    *same geos for those killing said informers

    Sorry, I don't speak Shinner and I've no idea what you're whittling on about.


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    #113
    dxhound2005
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    Tramps Like Us wrote: »
    Under the GFA all he or anyone else convicted of terrorist charges will serve is two years. The judge would formally sentence someone convicted of murder to life or whatever but 2 years is all theyd serve.

    Personally I do not believe Adams was involved in the killing.

    I don't know on what you base that personal opinion. But people who were around in Belfast at the time think otherwise.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/arrest-gerry-adams-now-former-republican-prisoner-breaks-her-silence-on-ira-murder-of-jean-mcconville-30213561.html


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    #114
    kumate_champ07
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    what percentage of posters here actually witnessed/experienced any of the conflict in the north?


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    #115
    .jacksparrow.
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    Released.


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    #116
    Barely There
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    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    what percentage of posters here actually witnessed/experienced any of the conflict in the north?

    74.3%


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    #117
    SEPT 23 1989
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    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    what percentage of posters here actually witnessed/experienced any of the conflict in the north?

    are we going to try and justify taking human life now are we?


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    #118
    efb
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Released without charge..?... why not?

    Will you throw a Gay Pride march if he's sentenced to life?

    ???? Relevance why a Gay Pride March?


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    #119
    TheHappyChappy
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    I don't know on what you base that personal opinion. But people who were around in Belfast at the time think otherwise.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/arrest-gerry-adams-now-former-republican-prisoner-breaks-her-silence-on-ira-murder-of-jean-mcconville-30213561.html

    As a former resident of 'andy-town' i'd have to say never met any local who thought there was anything to this beyond a political stroke


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    #120
    AndonHandon
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    I presume that in order to be formally questioned a person must technically be arrested and obviously they could be entirely innocent so the headlines are bitterly misleading.


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    #121
    Tramps Like Us
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    .jacksparrow. wrote: »
    Released.
    Really? Sound job

    They kept Ivor Bell for days


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