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breaking: Gerry Adams Arrested in connection to McConville - MOD WARNING First Post

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    bumper234 wrote: »
    And terrorists knew the consequences of committing murder.

    Unless they were in RUC/BA costumes which pretty much guaranteed a stay-out-of-jail pass if one of them felt like beating a couple of natives to death or shooting unarmed civilians.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Released.

    Source?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    efb wrote: »
    ???? Relevance why a Gay Pride March?

    Homophobic insult I'd presume.

    Hardly surprising considering the poster.

    Hopefully a ban is in the offing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    bumper234 wrote: »
    So going by your rules.

    If it turns out that Adams is a murderer then he should get life in prison?

    well its accepted in didn't kill the woman in question like
    the punishment for all killings/attacks during the troubles is 2 years....that is the punishment so I would have no bother accepting it

    there were many sentenced in the troubles to a lot longer for a lot less

    Sorry, I don't speak Shinner and I've no idea what you're whittling on about.

    she was passing info the british about the IRA...was warned...caught again...so ended up being killed for informing...not the last to be killed for it either
    as the saying geos.....snithes end in ditches:(

    not nice but...the sad reality of the situation


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    she was passing info the british about the IRA...was warned...caught again...so ended up being killed for informing...not the last to be killed for it either
    as the saying geos.....snithes end in ditches:(

    not nice but...the sad reality of the situation

    That OK then?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Homophobic insult I'd presume.

    Hardly surprising considering the poster.

    Hopefully a ban is in the offing.

    Awh.. bless :o
    Hardly surprising considering the poster.

    Go on then.. explain the above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,135 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    what percentage of posters here actually witnessed/experienced any of the conflict in the north?

    I have been refused entry to the odyssey arena back in 2005 by a security guard on account of tiny tricolour on my backpack, got let in by another security guard, was refused by a taximan outside cash converters in Belfast City Centre as the rank is/was at the time a protestant taxi rank and the drivers wont go near the falls road area, I wanted to go to the park centre, just two conflicts I have experienced amongst others over the last 10 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Homophobic insult I'd presume.

    Hardly surprising considering the poster.

    Hopefully a ban is in the offing.

    Care to explain how it's homophobic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    MadsL wrote: »
    That OK then?

    it was a more or less war zone like...

    unfair as it is....she got one warning not to do it than most


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    well its accepted in didn't kill the woman in question like
    the punishment for all killings/attacks during the troubles is 2 years....that is the punishment so I would have no bother accepting it

    there were many sentenced in the troubles to a lot longer for a lot less




    she was passing info the british about the IRA...was warned...caught again...so ended up being killed for informing...not the last to be killed for it either
    as the saying geos.....snithes end in ditches:(

    not nice but...the sad reality of the situation
    I agree with Adams when he says that the murder was wrong, a great injustice and shouldnt have happened. Nearly everyone does.

    What I object to is the myth building which has gone around about McConville to make her into some sort of ultra pure super victim whose murder was way abover and beyond the thousands of others on all sides. Reality, especially when it comes to the troubles, is not so black and white.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    there's probably a few regualr posters who are trying to post on this thread while furiously puling the mickey offa themselves

    give it a few minutes lads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    In Ireland you have to be arrested to be interviewed. An arrest in itself simply means there are questions they want to put to you. It's a pretty ****ty system when you think about it. There is no way to formally interview a suspect without arresting them first. It may be the same in NI.

    They are allowed to conduct a voluntary interview under caution. However I've never heard of police do that because at the first question the person does not like they can leave. That then leaves police the decision of arresting then or letting go. So its problematic if they arrest then under what grounds ....


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    SF doing well in pre-election surveys...can't be having that..boosh.
    Are you seriously insinuating this "arrest" by the Police Service of another jurisdiction is as a consequence of some sort of request by the Irish government to curb SF's momentum in the opinion polls?

    Don't you think that would be a pretty serious affair if true?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    Are you seriously insinuating this "arrest" by the Police Service of another jurisdiction is as a consequence of some sort of request by the Irish government to curb SF's momentum in the opinion polls?

    Don't you think that would be a pretty serious affair if true?

    There are elections in the UK too


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    it was a more or less war zone like...

    unfair as it is....she got one warning not to do it than most

    More or less?

    Justified in your eyes it seems. Shooting civilian women is part of what ethics of war?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Awh.. bless :o



    Go on then.. explain the above.

    No thanks, I'll leave it for the Mods.

    Who know, you might be able to weasel you're way out of it:pac:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Released.

    BBC Newsline are live outside the police station and the reporter hasn't mentioned that he's been released. :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Any confirmation that he has been released?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Sinn Fein will never hold power in this state

    Jean McConville might disagree.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    I agree with Adams when he says that the murder was wrong, a great injustice and shouldnt have happened. Nearly everyone does.

    What I object to is the myth building which has gone around about McConville to make her into some sort of ultra pure super victim whose murder was way abover and beyond the thousands of others on all sides. Reality, especially when it comes to the troubles, is not so black and white.


    if Gerry adams was not linked to this...there wouldn't be half the interest....there was a father of 8 I think disappeared (wrong aswell) in south Armagh as well....who even less justification was given for...don't think any was...it was an even bigger injustice IMO


    it served no one to disappear these people...all should be returned


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    what percentage of posters here actually witnessed/experienced any of the conflict in the north?

    I grew up in Portlaoise with a Northern father and spent most of my childhood holidays in the North

    Had plenty of experience of dealing with the conflict both in Portlaoise and in the North in the 70s/80s/90s

    No news sources are reporting he's been released?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    are we going to try and justify taking human life now are we?
    why do guns exist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    MadsL wrote: »
    More or less?

    Justified in your eyes it seems. Shooting civilian women is part of what ethics of war?

    she hardly counts as a civilan if she is seeking out/passing information onto the british army (enemy in a war with the IRA)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Perfect timing for the local elections!

    Great that people get a reminder of the kind of scummy murderous behaviour the Shinners/IRA got up to!
    all of them, ye?

    If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    she hardly counts as a civilan if she is seeking out/passing information onto the british army (enemy in a war with the IRA)

    Justifying it then. "Collaborators will be shot" being your line. Really?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    I agree with Adams when he says that the murder was wrong, a great injustice and shouldnt have happened. Nearly everyone does.

    What I object to is the myth building which has gone around about McConville to make her into some sort of ultra pure super victim whose murder was way abover and beyond the thousands of others on all sides. Reality, especially when it comes to the troubles, is not so black and white.

    your post actually has me speechless :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    MadsL wrote: »
    Justifying it then. "Collaborators will be shot" being your line. Really?

    Could you tell me any other conflict where it would tolerated? Republicans could hardly imprison her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,771 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    The people out there who vote sinn fein know full well Gerry Adams is or was mixed up in all the bad **** that went down, I think his popularity and the party's cannot be affected by anything like this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    No thanks, I'll leave it for the Mods.

    Who know, you might be able to weasel you're way out of it:pac:

    Well I'm not banned yet.. so go right ahead.

    If you have the fortitude to call someone a homophobe at least back it up in some way.


    Otherwise piss off and don't reply to me any more.


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