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breaking: Gerry Adams Arrested in connection to McConville - MOD WARNING First Post

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    #1742
    Putin
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Putin


    Gatling wrote: »


    When George bush Jr went to invade Iraq 500,000 protested here ,
    Wee gerry detainment has hardly been mentioned anywhere really a few news titbits ,

    A few bouts of Bottery on here ,

    Speaking off 'bottery', what level of delusion makes you think 500,000 people protested here?


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    #1743
    StudentDad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    Fair and the Diplock system do not go together

    When a jury trial is impossible due to intimidation etc. Special courts are an unfortunate result.

    SD


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    #1744
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users Posts: 17,193 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    StudentDad wrote: »
    When a jury trial is impossible due to intimidation etc. Special courts are an unfortunate result.

    SD
    or when a conviction is not guaranteed with a jury due to lack of evidence, beating confessions out of prisoners and general nonsense, special courts are preferred


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    #1745
    sillyoulfool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    or when a conviction is not guaranteed with a jury due to lack of evidence, beating confessions out of prisoners and general nonsense, special courts are preferred

    As opposed to the IRA Kangaroo courts that tortured and executed dozens including Jean McConville, Tom Oliver etc.
    Better a non jury court than a "republican" court anyday!


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    #1746
    Spring Onion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    And this differentiates SF from all he other Irish political parties because it clearly demonstrates... hang on, it doesn't.

    As difficult as it might be to believe given the state of our political system and our soft governments, SF in power would be a step back towards the dark ages.


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    #1747
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Actually i think he has more principles than most politicians this side of the border put together.
    Just some of them are the wrong principles...


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    #1748
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Spring Onion wrote: »
    As difficult as it might be to believe given the state of our political system and our soft governments, SF in power would be a step back towards the dark ages.
    Spare us. We've heard the scaremongering language before. What specifically makes you think the country would be any worse than with the FF/FG rotating duopoly? And no "their economic policy sucks" isn't specific.


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    #1749
    Spring Onion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Actually i think he has more principles than most politicians this side of the border put together.

    Is continual lying one of those principles? To be fair all our politicians are more than capable of lying.
    Being honest, I would have much more respect for Adams if he admitted membership of the PIRA. And before those posters come in saying "where is your proof?", I don't have the proof (they never gave out membership cards) but I am 100% convinced.


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    #1750
    StudentDad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    or when a conviction is not guaranteed with a jury due to lack of evidence, beating confessions out of prisoners and general nonsense, special courts are preferred

    Who was that Roman Senator who said, 'In times of war the law falls silent?' I can't think of his name.

    The law has to be applied. This is where we wind up comparing grievances. It's a dead end.

    SD


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    #1751
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Spring Onion wrote: »
    As difficult as it might be to believe given the state of our political system and our soft governments, SF in power would be a step back towards the dark ages.

    I don't agree. I'm not a SF voter (surprise!) but the more they get pulled in to the political system the better. It will probably reveal their hypocrisy, crazy economic policies etc. However this will not happen unless all parties decide to draw a line under the past. SF can't be demanding enquiries into Ballymurphy and then criticising enquiries into McConville. This applies across the board to the Loyalist/Unionist as well.


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    #1752
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Spare us. We've heard the scaremongering language before. What specifically makes you think the country would be any worse than with the FF/FG rotating duopoly? And no "their economic policy sucks" isn't specific.

    Their economic policy is pretty important and the fact that you don't realise that says a lot.

    I wouldn't trust SF to run a stall at a carboot sale.


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    #1753
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Putin wrote: »
    Speaking off 'bottery', what level of delusion makes you think 500,000 people protested here?

    Flano, his mate down the pub told him.


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    #1754
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Their leaders haven't just been arrested in relation to a murder that they have repeatedly denied having any involvement in.
    The question was are they liars or not. Do keep up.
    Quite ironic that you are assuming guilt because someone's been arrested with all the whining about kangaroo courts around here!


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    #1755
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    The economic policy is pretty important and that fact that you don't realise that says a lot.

    I wouldn't trust SF to run a stall at a carboot sale.

    The economic policies of the past and present went so swimmingly well.


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    #1756
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    The economic policy is pretty important and that fact that you don't realise that says a lot.

    I wouldn't trust SF to run a stall at a carboot sale.
    If you are also incapable of giving any specifics as to why their economic policy sucks you could have just said so.


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    #1757
    Spring Onion
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    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    I don't agree. I'm not a SF voter (surprise!) but the more they get pulled in to the political system the better. It will probably reveal their hypocrisy, crazy economic policies etc. However this will not happen unless all parties decide to draw a line under the past. SF can't be demanding enquiries into Ballymurphy and then criticising enquiries into McConville. This applies across the board to the Loyalist/Unionist as well.

    Yeah maybe you are right. Maybe one stint in a dodgy coalition would expose them. And when the voting public see that they don't have a "magic money tree", they would see sense. At the same time I feel that once in power it would be difficult to shift them.


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    #1758
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    I don't agree. I'm not a SF voter (surprise!) but the more they get pulled in to the political system the better. It will probably reveal their hypocrisy, crazy economic policies etc.
    We'll try again.
    What's "crazy" about their economic policy?
    Specifically.


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    #1759
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Banjo String wrote: »
    The economic policies of the past and present went so swimmingly well.

    To be fair, it was pretty much the policies of FF in the recent past that put us where we are.

    FG and Labour just have the unenviable task of cleaning up the mess left behind and implementing stuff that should have been done two decades ago.


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    #1760
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    We'll try again.
    What's "crazy" about their economic policy?
    Specifically.

    They had absolutely no plan whatsoever as to how they would fund the country other than the "burn the bondholders" slogan.


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    #1761
    Santa Cruz
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    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    They had absolutely no plan whatsoever as to how they would fund the country other than the "burn the bondholders" slogan.
    while voting for the bank guarantee


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    #1762
    kumate_champ07
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    are we there yet!?


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    #1763
    sillyoulfool
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    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    I wouldn't trust SF to run a stall at a carboot sale.

    If they did it would be selling smuggled smokes and it would no doubt be run on laundered diesel!
    Sinn Fein in power? I would trust the Dundons et al before I would trust Adams and his gang.


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    #1764
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    If they did it would be selling smuggled smokes and it would no doubt be run on laundered diesel!
    Sinn Fein in power? I would trust the Dundons et al before I would trust Adams and his gang.
    If you've evidence of illegal activity, bring it to the attention of the gardaí. Don't make those accusations here.


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    #1765
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    while voting for the bank guarantee

    Didn't they claim afterwards that they didn't have enough time to analyze it fully prior to the vote once public opinion soured on the idea?

    I know if i didn't understand something as important as that fully i'd just vote in support of it and hope for the best :rolleyes:


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    #1766
    guinnessdrinker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭guinnessdrinker


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    To be fair, it was pretty much the policies of FF in the recent past that put us where we are.

    FG and Labour just have the unenviable task of cleaning up the mess left behind and implementing stuff that should have been done two decades ago.

    Do FG and Labour have progressive economic policies of their own? It seems to me that they were doing doing as they were told and implementing IMF policies since coming into government.


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    #1767
    alaimacerc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    StudentDad wrote: »
    Who was that Roman Senator who said, 'In times of war the law falls silent?' I can't think of his name.

    Cicero. Google FTW. Also, he was a consul. Give him his proper title!, etc, etc.


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    #1768
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    To be fair, it was pretty much the policies of FF in the recent past that put us where we are.

    FG and Labour just have the unenviable task of cleaning up the mess left behind and implementing stuff that should have been done two decades ago.

    Remind me who was in opposition screaming at FF and the greens that they weren't spending enough?????
    sillyoulfool wrote: »
    If they did it would be selling smuggled smokes and it would no doubt be run on laundered diesel!
    Sinn Fein in power? I would trust the Dundons et al before I would trust Adams and his gang.

    Any wonder you treat your accounts as disposable. Must be on number 3 now in the space of a year.


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    #1769
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Remind me who was in opposition screaming at FF and the greens that they weren't spending enough?????

    I don't deny that but that was/is a feature of Irish politics.

    If one crowd says snow is white then the other crowd has to say it's black. It's a facsimile of the Republican/Democrat thing in the US where members from the opposite side will vote down things that they know are good ideas just because the guys across the floor came up with it.


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    #1770
    Karl Stein
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    Banjo String wrote: »
    Remind me who was in opposition screaming at FF and the greens that they weren't spending enough?????

    Indeed, our FG fanboys tend to forget that their crowd were offering the public a turbo-charged version of FF.

    We might have been in an even worse position if they'd got their way.


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    #1771
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    They had absolutely no plan whatsoever as to how they would fund the country other than the "burn the bondholders" slogan.
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/economy
    So, anything other than "their economic policy sucks"? No specifics?


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